Throwbacks, Montreal Expos, and the Style Guide

[Caulfield]

Re: Throwbacks, Montreal Expos, and the Style Guide

I highly doubt they would advertise the crap out of RBI Baseball, AND promote fake advertising interviews with 'so-called' fans, loving RBI Baseball, because they can "play as their Expos again!"

I didnt know this, I havent really looked into RBI but I think I will give it a look this year.
Of all years, with the Shows retromode, this is the one year I wouldnt even need to buy RBI
but if the Expos are in, then so am I.
Thanks SB!

[capa]

Re: Throwbacks, Montreal Expos, and the Style Guide

Bottom line? Seems like there is a call by the customer base to include these in the game.

Easy solution: get the rights to the uniforms (like they do for stadiums, legends, etc) and put them in the game.

Where do they go? Include them in a slot for the Nationals.

Unless MLB strictly prohibits this, and I can't understand why they would give a crap, it seems like an easy solution. People that want to use them can, and those that don't won't.

[Culture Rot]

Re: Throwbacks, Montreal Expos, and the Style Guide

Just to make sure I wasn't crazy I went and hunted for my copy of the Show 09 and here's the Expos uniforms in there... it was the last time they were in a game...

If they were there then, they could be in there now.

[TheBleedingRed21]

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The small outcry here at OS doesn't justify another licensing cost for a team that does not exists and is not associated with the Nationals organization.

I think you misunderstand how licensing works, there is no easy solution.

And no they could not go in the Nationals slot, they are not associated with the organization as I mentioned a second ago.

If it was easy, this wonderful development team would have them in, but it's not.

[SilverBullet1929]

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If they were there then, they could be in there now.

Actually not too sure about that. Apparently it was in 2009 that the Nationals dropped their connection to the Expos legally. The way I understand it The Show could use the Expos until then because the Expos license was a part of the Washington Nationals. That is no longer the case therefore they'd need to acquire the license separately now.

[parky_17]

Re: Throwbacks, Montreal Expos, and the Style Guide

Actually not too sure about that. Apparently it was in 2009 that the Nationals dropped their connection to the Expos legally. The way I understand it The Show could use the Expos until then because the Expos license was a part of the Washington Nationals. That is no longer the case therefore they'd need to acquire the license separately now.

Yeah the way I see it is you would have to have legends teams to get the Expos in as the Nats are no longer affiliated with them it wouldn't make sense to have there jerseys as a Nats throwback

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[capa]

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The small outcry here at OS doesn't justify another licensing cost for a team that does not exists and is not associated with the Nationals organization.

I think you misunderstand how licensing works, there is no easy solution.

And no they could not go in the Nationals slot, they are not associated with the organization as I mentioned a second ago.

If it was easy, this wonderful development team would have them in, but it's not.

So put them in a separate slot on their own and allow users to select these generic slots for any team in the league. Let's face it guys, there is a way around all the "technical" limitations people talk about. Whether or not SCEA wants to take this on is a whole different story, and the only thing that matters. Because all licensing and technical items could be solved.

[countryboy]

Re: Throwbacks, Montreal Expos, and the Style Guide

So put them in a separate slot on their own and allow users to select these generic slots for any team in the league. Let's face it guys, there is a way around all the "technical" limitations people talk about. Whether or not SCEA wants to take this on is a whole different story, and the only thing that matters. Because all licensing and technical items could be solved.

Sure licensing could be solved but what is the return for SCEA for paying the money for the license? We have no idea the license cost.

You could say they could offer the uni as DLC but what is the guarantee that you get a return on your investment? Could they put it at low enough price point to get enough people to purchase?




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[capa]

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Sure licensing could be solved but what is the return for SCEA for paying the money for the license? We have no idea the license cost.

You could say they could offer the uni as DLC but what is the guarantee that you get a return on your investment? Could they put it at low enough price point to get enough people to purchase?




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I said "whether SCEA wants to take this on is a whole different story, and the only thing that matters."

They obviously do not want to take this on.

But let's not pretend it is an impossible hurdle to clear. It is not. They just don't have it on their priority list and do not think it is worth the time and effort.

It could be done, but there are no plans for it to be done.

[countryboy]

Re: Throwbacks, Montreal Expos, and the Style Guide

I said "whether SCEA wants to take this on is a whole different story, and the only thing that matters."

They obviously do not want to take this on.

But let's not pretend it is an impossible hurdle to clear. It is not. They just don't have it on their priority list and do not think it is worth the time and effort.

It could be done, but there are no plans for it to be done.

Exactly they don't want to do it and have their reasons for it. That should be good enough, but unfortunately it isn't for some people.


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[SilverBullet1929]

Re: Throwbacks, Montreal Expos, and the Style Guide

I'm OK with accepting it never gets in but then again I'm not a baseball fan in Montreal

[capa]

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Exactly they don't want to do it and have their reasons for it. That should be good enough, but unfortunately it isn't for some people.


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Personally, I don't care at all.

I just hate it when people position things as "it is technically not possible" or whatever.

[countryboy]

Re: Throwbacks, Montreal Expos, and the Style Guide

Personally, I don't care at all.



I just hate it when people position things as "it is technically not possible" or whatever.

And it's frustrating when people ask SCEA for a reason something can't be done, get a reason, and then complain that the reason isn't good enough or SCEA should do it anyway because of this or that.




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[kehlis]

Re: Throwbacks, Montreal Expos, and the Style Guide

I think the popularity the Expos unis would actually have throughout the entire fanbase is vastly overstated here.

[sva91]

Re: Throwbacks, Montreal Expos, and the Style Guide

From some of these articles, it appears the bigger issue is how the Nationals have disassociates themselves from the Expos. It puts SCEA in a weird spot. Even if they had the license, how would they use it? Only solution would be to create a Historic Team with all generic players, and wait until roster makers create a roster for em. As much as I'd love that, it seems like a lot of coding and hoops they'd have to jump through. It def can be done, but is it worth time, effort, and cost ?