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  • rcaples
    Rookie
    • Feb 2017
    • 8

    #196
    Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

    I'd settle for "Big Mac Land" having its own section. Hasn't been in any rendition of the game.

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    • kaptainkarl76
      Rookie
      • Mar 2010
      • 336

      #197
      Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

      Originally posted by Caulfield
      To get those game times under 150 minutes, they could have something built into the ground behind the mound that shoots a new ball up with air-pressure and the pitcher catches.

      Then I'd rather watch bowling..

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      • SchwarBear12
        Banned
        • Jan 2017
        • 83

        #198
        Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

        After reading this thread, I think some people need to change their mindset in how this game is delivered. SSDS has done what they can, and that I can get behind and respect. They have changed and fixed the Astros throwback road jersey after years, they have added the alternates, they have added closed roofs, they have added improved player models, they have brought in PBR, they are trying to incorporate PS Pro tech...


        They're doing what they can with what they have and the people that are there.


        That's all I ask, and thank you very much. This game has actively gotten massively better (literally night and day) between MLB 15 and MLB 17. I don't get why they are so honor-bound by the style guide being wrong, but it's been explained multiple times that the style guide is the law. Whatever the jerseys look like in the 'real world' means absolutely nothing to the work of SSDS. The style guide is what matters. You've got to get your head in that space. It took me awhile too.

        But they are trying, and that's what I ask.


        It's literally -- a whole new ballgame.

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        • Trackball
          MVP
          • Sep 2012
          • 1306

          #199
          Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

          Originally posted by SchwarBear12
          After reading this thread, I think some people need to change their mindset in how this game is delivered. SSDS has done what they can, and that I can get behind and respect. They have changed and fixed the Astros throwback road jersey after years, they have added the alternates, they have added closed roofs, they have added improved player models, they have brought in PBR, they are trying to incorporate PS Pro tech...

          They're doing what they can with what they have and the people that are there.

          That's all I ask, and thank you very much. This game has actively gotten massively better (literally night and day) between MLB 15 and MLB 17. I don't get why they are so honor-bound by the style guide being wrong, but it's been explained multiple times that the style guide is the law. Whatever the jerseys look like in the 'real world' means absolutely nothing to the work of SSDS. The style guide is what matters. You've got to get your head in that space. It took me awhile too.

          But they are trying, and that's what I ask.

          It's literally -- a whole new ballgame.
          The colors bug me too, believe me. I actually have OCD. I've restarted files because the slightest thing was off and it kept bugging me that it was too late to change it back.

          However, I also keep things in perspective.

          I'd rather have an amazing game with slightly-off coloring and number placement than a glitchy mess with perfect colors and numbers.

          All things considered, yeah, I'll take the good GAME any day.

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          • SchwarBear12
            Banned
            • Jan 2017
            • 83

            #200
            Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

            Originally posted by Trackball
            The colors bug me too, believe me. I actually have OCD. I've restarted files because the slightest thing was off and it kept bugging me that it was too late to change it back.

            However, I also keep things in perspective.

            I'd rather have an amazing game with slightly-off coloring and number placement than a glitchy mess with perfect colors and numbers.

            All things considered, yeah, I'll take the good GAME any day.

            Perfect. You got exactly where I was coming from.

            For example -- presentation & commentary -- is not a really big deal to me. It's not. But to some, it's life and death to the game. For me, alternates/throwback jerseys and classic stadiums are top priority. To others, it's not.

            Prime example -- I LOVED the 'mistake' Colorado Rockies road alternate from the late 2000s still in the game, with purple sleeves and the purple hat (my favorite Rox hat). I used it exclusively for road jerseys, and used the solid black throwback strictly at home. I liked it that way.

            It was almost universally hated. Now it's gone, and probably forever. But to most that's a great thing. I'm gonna miss it.


            That's the kind of stuff I think some people need to keep in mind. Sometimes a mistake, makes something better for some. Just because it's not screen accurate to real life, doesn't make it not have value in a game.


            Sometimes in a game, we get to live in an alternate world where the Marlins have orange home hats and the Astros go all orange, unlike in real life. And some of us like using The Show as a way to live those fantasies. It's not always about being precisely correct.

            Yes the colors are off... but i'm just happy BOTH the Nats home white alternate AND navy alternate AND red alternate are ALL in the game. I'm happy the Blue Jays red alternate is IN the game. Not out. That's what's important.

            I'm happy The Show (which they've gotten virtually no real credit on this), have been asked FOR YEARS to incorporate REAL LIFE broadcasts in the game. They brought in MLB Network, and did a great job with it.


            They are literally doing what we're asking them to do. It's like having a kid in college, they get their Associates Degree, then their Bachelors, now they're trying at Grad school... but we're still dogging them they're not a Doctor yet.


            Give it time. Breathe. They are listening. I will always support -- EFFORT.

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            • bubba4
              Pro
              • Sep 2002
              • 607

              #201
              Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

              Originally posted by Caulfield
              They do? What is that?
              Fast Play for those that like to get through games quickly. Hybrid for those that like a brisk game with some presentation elements showing. And Broadcast, which we all hoped would be full blown presentation just like a real TV broadcast. The problem is Broadcast is pretty much (exactly?) like Hybrid.

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              • capa
                Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 5321

                #202
                Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                I forget what year it was (15?) but I absolutely loved the real time presentation mode. Where it would just play out as in real life between pitches. You could always break out of it, but talk about immersion!

                I know we will never see that mode again with emphasis on faster gameplay.

                C

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                • SilverBullet1929
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1924

                  #203
                  Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                  Those of us who bring up certain persistent errors are not unhappy with the game, we're trying to help improve it because it's been proven that the devs take our feedback into account. We love the game as much as those of you who don't care about the mistakes do.

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                  • SilverBullet1929
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1924

                    #204
                    Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                    Originally posted by capa
                    I forget what year it was (15?) but I absolutely loved the real time presentation mode. Where it would just play out as in real life between pitches. You could always break out of it, but talk about immersion!

                    I know we will never see that mode again with emphasis on faster gameplay.

                    C
                    This doesn't exist anymore? I usually play in hybrid but I thought the real time presentation thing was still an option?

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                    • Armor and Sword
                      The Lama
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 21793

                      #205
                      MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                      Originally posted by capa
                      I forget what year it was (15?) but I absolutely loved the real time presentation mode. Where it would just play out as in real life between pitches. You could always break out of it, but talk about immersion!

                      I know we will never see that mode again with emphasis on faster gameplay.

                      C


                      MLB 11 was the last one that had the Real Time presentation I believe.


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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42520

                        #206
                        Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                        Originally posted by capa
                        I forget what year it was (15?) but I absolutely loved the real time presentation mode. Where it would just play out as in real life between pitches. You could always break out of it, but talk about immersion!

                        I know we will never see that mode again with emphasis on faster gameplay.

                        C
                        I thought it was all real-time now.

                        I'm not talking about things they skip or don't skip, I'm talking about no more pre-canned cutscene shots and animations.

                        However, I can't say for certain about things skipping around or not. I for sure know MLB 13: The Show had it because somebody had just asked me about my video on The Show with 2K commentary and I had to rewatch it to answer something, and between pitches took forever lol. I think I was on the "Slow" pacing option (I think that was actually the name).
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                        • capa
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5321

                          #207
                          Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                          Originally posted by Blzer
                          I thought it was all real-time now.

                          I'm not talking about things they skip or don't skip, I'm talking about no more pre-canned cutscene shots and animations.

                          However, I can't say for certain about things skipping around or not. I for sure know MLB 13: The Show had it because somebody had just asked me about my video on The Show with 2K commentary and I had to rewatch it to answer something, and between pitches took forever lol. I think I was on the "Slow" pacing option (I think that was actually the name).
                          I was referring to the release where you could watch the players walk all the way back to the dugout after an at bat, or the catcher walk back to home plate after chasing a foul ball. After every play really. They changed all that a few years ago and cut out of the scenes back to the action. I understand why they did it, I just preferred having the option to do so and if I wanted it to mirror a real life broadcast, I could. Felt more like the real thing.

                          C

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                          • beau21
                            It's 5 o'clock somewhere
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1813

                            #208
                            MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                            Originally posted by capa
                            I was referring to the release where you could watch the players walk all the way back to the dugout after an at bat, or the catcher walk back to home plate after chasing a foul ball. After every play really. They changed all that a few years ago and cut out of the scenes back to the action. I understand why they did it, I just preferred having the option to do so and if I wanted it to mirror a real life broadcast, I could. Felt more like the real thing.

                            C


                            Agreed.

                            So many things are done in this game to create a real sense of immersion, but when the between-pitches sequences are skipped, that really breaks the immersion for me. I understand that they wanted to speed the game up, but I wish they would have left it in and turned it off by default then.


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                            • Archie56
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 1556

                              #209
                              Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                              Originally posted by SchwarBear12
                              Perfect. You got exactly where I was coming from.

                              For example -- presentation & commentary -- is not a really big deal to me. It's not. But to some, it's life and death to the game. For me, alternates/throwback jerseys and classic stadiums are top priority. To others, it's not.

                              Prime example -- I LOVED the 'mistake' Colorado Rockies road alternate from the late 2000s still in the game, with purple sleeves and the purple hat (my favorite Rox hat). I used it exclusively for road jerseys, and used the solid black throwback strictly at home. I liked it that way.

                              It was almost universally hated. Now it's gone, and probably forever. But to most that's a great thing. I'm gonna miss it.


                              That's the kind of stuff I think some people need to keep in mind. Sometimes a mistake, makes something better for some. Just because it's not screen accurate to real life, doesn't make it not have value in a game.


                              Sometimes in a game, we get to live in an alternate world where the Marlins have orange home hats and the Astros go all orange, unlike in real life. And some of us like using The Show as a way to live those fantasies. It's not always about being precisely correct.

                              Yes the colors are off... but i'm just happy BOTH the Nats home white alternate AND navy alternate AND red alternate are ALL in the game. I'm happy the Blue Jays red alternate is IN the game. Not out. That's what's important.

                              I'm happy The Show (which they've gotten virtually no real credit on this), have been asked FOR YEARS to incorporate REAL LIFE broadcasts in the game. They brought in MLB Network, and did a great job with it.


                              They are literally doing what we're asking them to do. It's like having a kid in college, they get their Associates Degree, then their Bachelors, now they're trying at Grad school... but we're still dogging them they're not a Doctor yet.


                              Give it time. Breathe. They are listening. I will always support -- EFFORT.

                              *mic drop* lol

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                              • KnightTemplar
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2017
                                • 3282

                                #210
                                Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                                Originally posted by beau21
                                Agreed.

                                So many things are done in this game to create a real sense of immersion, but when the between-pitches sequences are skipped, that really breaks the immersion for me. I understand that they wanted to speed the game up, but I wish they would have left it in and turned it off by default then.


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                                Agree 1000%. Would love to have the option to watch the catcher throw the ball back to the pitcher every time. If someone wants to speed the game up, isn't there FAST PLAY already?

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