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  • dran1984
    MVP
    • Mar 2011
    • 1221

    #136
    Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

    Originally posted by tabarnes19
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianma.../#625113255a0b

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    The fact that he thinks franchise would be "perfect" if create a team/expansion/stadium creator was in tells you all you need to know about this article. Many more things need to be added to this mode just to put it on the same level as other current sports titles. To argue that this is the main feature holding back the mode is pretty weak and completely ridiculous. Also, not to even consider that MLB is very likely the reason that this mode is not i the game is very short-sighted.

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    • tessl
      All Star
      • Apr 2007
      • 5661

      #137
      Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

      Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
      Ahhhhh...2 variables and one equation. My simple algebra does not work here.



      No, because there's nothing mandatory about doing missions. I also don't think completing them results in artificial gameplay boosts--my understanding is completing missions just gets you items and packs.
      Thanks for the reply. I wonder whether training or progression has been changed. I know you and others did some research last year on training. Were there some attributes which couldn't be improved with training?

      I searched but couldn't find a thread with a synopsis.

      Thanks
      Last edited by tessl; 03-08-2017, 08:45 PM.

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      • dallas0112
        Rookie
        • Jan 2008
        • 174

        #138
        Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

        Originally posted by dran1984
        .

        The fact that he thinks franchise would be "perfect" if create a team/expansion/stadium creator was in tells you all you need to know about this article. Many more things need to be added to this mode just to put it on the same level as other current sports titles. To argue that this is the main feature holding back the mode is pretty weak and completely ridiculous. Also, not to even consider that MLB is very likely the reason that this mode is not i the game is very short-sighted.
        I happen to agree with him, I mean 10 or 11 years ago I could pop in mvp and create a stadium, my own team, it made that mode fun to play. I've been waiting on this for three years now since the ps4 came out, and still nada. Again, exactly what he says, we have a robust uniform creation tool, but can only play online with it, personally I won't play online for various reasons. Oh well, once again, hopefully next year.
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        • dran1984
          MVP
          • Mar 2011
          • 1221

          #139
          Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

          Originally posted by dallas0112
          I happen to agree with him, I mean 10 or 11 years ago I could pop in mvp and create a stadium, my own team, it made that mode fun to play. I've been waiting on this for three years now since the ps4 came out, and still nada. Again, exactly what he says, we have a robust uniform creation tool, but can only play online with it, personally I won't play online for various reasons. Oh well, once again, hopefully next year.
          Would it be nice to have? Yes it would. However, saying that it is the ONLY thing keeping the mode from being "perfect" is ridiculous. Again, the likely reason it's not in the game is because MLB won't allow it.

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          • SoxFan01605
            All Star
            • Jan 2008
            • 7982

            #140
            Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

            Originally posted by dran1984
            Would it be nice to have? Yes it would. However, saying that it is the ONLY thing keeping the mode from being "perfect" is ridiculous. Again, the likely reason it's not in the game is because MLB won't allow it.
            Ehh, I get where you're coming from, but it's just an opinion piece. Obviously, no game will ever literally be "perfect" but there are certainly things a lot of people would label as the "if I could have just one or two things" features for their favorite modes. I really think that's all the author is doing here.

            Also, the notion that MLB won't allow these features, while often repeated around here, is purely speculation (in fact, we've already been told the "why" about create-a-stadium not being in thus far and MLB approval wasn't it), so I don't think the author not openly considering it should really be held against him.

            I honestly believe that we'll at least see something like the DD type customization (hopefully more!) seep into franchise eventually but, of course, that's just my speculation...lol. For now, I'm content to get more info on the quirks and see what other details were added or touched up for 17 when we get the stream later today.
            Last edited by SoxFan01605; 03-09-2017, 07:58 AM.

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            • WaitTilNextYear
              Go Cubs Go
              • Mar 2013
              • 16830

              #141
              Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

              Originally posted by tessl
              Thanks for the reply. I wonder whether training or progression has been changed. I know you and others did some research last year on training. Were there some attributes which couldn't be improved with training?

              I searched but couldn't find a thread with a synopsis.

              Thanks
              Running speed, pitch velocity, pitcher stamina, and maybe a couple of others.
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              • Dolenz
                MVP
                • May 2014
                • 2056

                #142
                Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                Originally posted by dallas0112
                I happen to agree with him, I mean 10 or 11 years ago I could pop in mvp and create a stadium, my own team, it made that mode fun to play. I've been waiting on this for three years now since the ps4 came out, and still nada. Again, exactly what he says, we have a robust uniform creation tool, but can only play online with it, personally I won't play online for various reasons. Oh well, once again, hopefully next year.


                Of course the cookie cutter stadium builder in MVP created stadiums that did not have near the complexity of The Show ballparks. It would be a nice feature to see someday but I would not hold my breath for it.


                That is even more the case now with the zones that they have marked in stadiums so that the announcers can mention where the ball landed.

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                • Finn
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 328

                  #143
                  Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                  When people refer to create a stadium, is the expectation of a list of maybe 3 or 4 pre-made stadiums to choose from or a ground up type build?

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                  • Turbojugend
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 2242

                    #144
                    Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                    Originally posted by Dolenz
                    Of course the cookie cutter stadium builder in MVP created stadiums that did not have near the complexity of The Show ballparks. It would be a nice feature to see someday but I would not hold my breath for it.

                    That is even more the case now with the zones that they have marked in stadiums so that the announcers can mention where the ball landed.
                    Agreed. If/when they do implement create-a-stadium, it will likely take a huge amount of resources to get it done and working properly, and even then it may be a two or three year process to see it through to completion.

                    The amount of assets it requires to create a single stadium in The Show is several times over what it would take to create multiple stadiums in MVP Baseball. The comparison isn't even remotely close.
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                    • Blzer
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                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42509

                      #145
                      Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                      Originally posted by Finn
                      When people refer to create a stadium, is the expectation of a list of maybe 3 or 4 pre-made stadiums to choose from or a ground up type build?
                      Something you build yourself, though just as Dolenz mentioned it would really have to be more complex than MVP gave (just in general plus the passage of time) for this to even be welcomed by gamers. Here is MVP's in a nutshell, which at the time honestly wasn't all that bad:

                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/126CnBLPL-s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                      I think I'd go with "create a batting stance" before "create a stadium," anyway. Even with the hundreds of stances in the game, I still can't find some that match myself or others I know... not to mention we could perfect players' stances that we feel aren't quite right in game as well. That would probably require a new physics engine though (think Euphoria), at the very least.
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                      • Boozers
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 107

                        #146
                        Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                        not sure if this was mentioned but time does the stream start today on franchise mode?

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                        • parky_17
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 395

                          #147
                          Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                          Originally posted by Boozers
                          not sure if this was mentioned but time does the stream start today on franchise mode?
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                          • tessl
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                            • Apr 2007
                            • 5661

                            #148
                            Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                            Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                            Running speed, pitch velocity, pitcher stamina, and maybe a couple of others.
                            Thanks. Did anybody submit a bug report or do you think that was done by design?

                            A more realistic way to do stamina would be to base it on pitch count or innings pitched over a period of time. IRL teams sometimes "stretch out" a reliever to convert him into a starter. The opportunity to do that doesn't currently exist in the show.

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                            • bspring3
                              Where is A-Aron
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 260

                              #149
                              Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                              Originally posted by tessl
                              Thanks. Did anybody submit a bug report or do you think that was done by design?

                              A more realistic way to do stamina would be to base it on pitch count or innings pitched over a period of time. IRL teams sometimes "stretch out" a reliever to convert him into a starter. The opportunity to do that doesn't currently exist in the show.
                              I believe from one of the interviews with Russell promoting the game last year that this was a design decision. I remember him saying something along the lines of a players running speed or a pitchers throwing speed wont increase over their career, only decrease.

                              Or i could be imagining all of this.
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                              • Nolove626
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 150

                                #150
                                Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                                Originally posted by underdog13
                                That existed in ps2 days and was lost somewhere along the road in ps3 days.

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                                Yeah I was 90% sure I was wrong on that one, and it had to be longer than '15. Getting old and playing the show every year since 06' with Big Papi on the cover.

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