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  • echotripper76
    Rookie
    • Jan 2005
    • 103

    #31
    Re: The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

    Originally posted by ArchitectsMetalcore
    The introduction of retro mode pretty much summarizes the priorities of this company right now and that is to create a more accessible game for the majority of the community.

    I don't care if it took them one day or 5 minutes to create the mode. They sat down in their meeting, realized they can't expand the team, so they resorted to creating a new mode for the sake of having something new. Instead of using those days on fixing pitching motions, fixing jerseys, fixing grass, they felt the need to go retro. Lets not forget about shifting priorities towards DD because we all know that is where the money is. Who is to blame them though? I would have done the same thing.
    Actually, if you consider that with Retro mode (similar to the RBI baseball games released the past couple years) and Quick Manage/sim options (similar to OOTP baseball), the team at SDS is doing a smart thing by appealing to more players, drawing them in (creating more revenue) which can then be used to apply towards more franchise options for future iterations of the game. I find it extremely unlikely that they would highlight an area they do not intend to improve in the coming years. In fact, they have followed this line of thinking before with DD and RTTS.

    Of course I would like more franchise based improvements, but I am willing to wait till next year. Besides, there is so much to love with what we have seen in the vids so far. Ball physics and quirks alone are going to enhance franchise mode!

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    • cepwin
      Rookie
      • Sep 2008
      • 104

      #32
      I pretty much agree with your assessment. I'm not so sure that retro mode is a negative..what I will say is I doubt I'll be playing it.

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      • Caulfield
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 10986

        #33
        Re: The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

        Originally posted by 2ndBase

        Bad
        1. Cap side logo
        2. Cap side logo
        I hate it too. You would think Manfred would have had some input with New Era.
        I hope the cap isnt the tip of the iceberg and baseball uniforms dont turn into NASCAR uniforms.
        I know thats a huge leap, and probably wont happen, but I also never thought caps would become billboards for New Era. For 25 years New Era has been a fine steward of the game but now I'm afraid their bottom line visually negatively affects MLB's on-field product.
        And THAT is on Manfred, AFAIC
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        • baseballsim
          MVP
          • Jun 2009
          • 1279

          #34
          Re: The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

          I think removing Diamond Dynasty Pitcher Handedness in the matchup screen could turn out to be a good thing and provide some interesting new strategy. As it is now, a lot of cards like Winfield and Schmidt are never being used. This change should also give lefty SPs like Sale, Bumgarner, etc. more value.

          How many teams actually really relied on these one-dimensional platoon cards throughout an entire year anyways? One should still be able to use these cards. Just protect them in the lineup. With all of the great diamond cards available, you shouldn't have to rely on too many platoons in your lineup to begin with.

          What could possibly be bad about a Retro mode?
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          • oilersfan99
            Rookie
            • Dec 2008
            • 315

            #35
            Re: The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

            To me the ball physics and player models are top of the list of good. Followed by the ease of play for new players bringing in, hopefully a whole lot of new players which can never be bad.

            I don't see much that I don't like. I don't play franchise so that doesn't bother me and I'll check out retro for some nostalgia but won't play it much but I'm happy that the team will try every year to bring in new player and new stream of revenue to help make the game better and better.

            Can't wait for the game to drop

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            • MetsFan16
              MVP
              • Nov 2011
              • 1416

              #36
              Re: The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

              Best:

              1. Ball Physics. After playing '16 since they showed these off, I find myself saying "in '17 those hits will do this, not just stay straight!"

              2. Improved Faces and Body Sliders

              3. DD Seasons and RTTS PYP

              Worst:

              1. Retro Mode

              2. Little done to Franchise

              3. That's all I got
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              • HypoLuxa13
                MVP
                • Feb 2007
                • 1156

                #37
                Re: The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

                Originally posted by MetsFan16
                After playing '16 since they showed these off, I find myself saying "in '17 those hits will do this
                This. I've played a lot of RttS the past couple days and have been thinking the exact same thing. "In 17 that one will probably hook foul." OR "in 17 that one would have more top spin and might fall fall in for a hit."


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                • TripleCrown9
                  Keep the Faith
                  • May 2010
                  • 23674

                  #38
                  Re: The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

                  Originally posted by BigOscar
                  Best

                  1) Ball Physics
                  2) Ball Physics
                  3) Ball Physics

                  Worst

                  1) Retro Mode, waste of time and space that could have been used for other things.
                  2) Franchise Mode being dumbed down, with veteran players seemingly being taken for granted with very limited change in core mechanics.
                  3) Increase in Online only stuff in DD.
                  Originally posted by rkocjay
                  Best

                  1) Ball physics any addition of improved ball physics is great for any sports game
                  2) MLB network presentation
                  3) commentary

                  Worst
                  1) retro mode- could of put there focus on other modes more
                  2) franchise mode - not much was added but hopefully things were improved
                  3) MLB the show seems to be going towards DD more. Even in there Offline franchise stream they seem more excited to show DD Legends then the actual franchise stream.



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                  So what you rather have had them do in the time (less than a day) it took to implement Retro Mode?
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                  • rkocjay
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 601

                    #39
                    Re: The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

                    Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                    So what you rather have had them do in the time (less than a day) it took to implement Retro Mode?
                    In that one day could of added the speed ability of the man at second base. That was not me complaining just contributing to the post

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                    • Archie56
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 1556

                      #40
                      Re: The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

                      Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                      So what you rather have had them do in the time (less than a day) it took to implement Retro Mode?
                      My thoughts exactly. Lol

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                      • TripleCrown9
                        Keep the Faith
                        • May 2010
                        • 23674

                        #41
                        Re: The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

                        Originally posted by 2ndBase
                        Good
                        1. Ball physics
                        2. Body types
                        3. Better faces

                        Bad
                        1. Cap side logo
                        2. Cap side logo
                        3. No Tiger Stadium
                        Originally posted by Caulfield
                        I hate it too. You would think Manfred would have had some input with New Era.
                        I hope the cap isnt the tip of the iceberg and baseball uniforms dont turn into NASCAR uniforms.
                        I know thats a huge leap, and probably wont happen, but I also never thought caps would become billboards for New Era. For 25 years New Era has been a fine steward of the game but now I'm afraid their bottom line visually negatively affects MLB's on-field product.
                        And THAT is on Manfred, AFAIC
                        Oh no, it's such a distraction and takes away so much from the overall aesthetic of the uniform...

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                        • 2ndBase
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 450

                          #42
                          Re: The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

                          Originally posted by Caulfield
                          I hate it too. You would think Manfred would have had some input with New Era.
                          I hope the cap isnt the tip of the iceberg and baseball uniforms dont turn into NASCAR uniforms.
                          I know thats a huge leap, and probably wont happen, but I also never thought caps would become billboards for New Era. For 25 years New Era has been a fine steward of the game but now I'm afraid their bottom line visually negatively affects MLB's on-field product.
                          And THAT is on Manfred, AFAIC

                          I hope it has the "New Coke" effect driving the demand for the classic look. Fingers crossed The Show doesn't include the logo on the throw back caps.

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                          • 2ndBase
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 450

                            #43
                            Re: The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

                            Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                            Oh no, it's such a distraction and takes away so much from the overall aesthetic of the uniform...

                            Spoiler

                            Just wait until Under Armor puts their logo on the uniform chest in 2020. The Show has to do what MLB does but Manifred has made it clear the MLB is open for bu$$iness. I'm trying to just enjoy the game of baseball, this is such a great time of year, but the signage creep is yucky.

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                            • Blzer
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                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42515

                              #44
                              Re: The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

                              I may be wrong, but I think the game froze in the Twitch stream when they missed the bunt because they turned on some sort of "automatic contact" widget, yet they missed.

                              Maybe it was something else, I don't know.
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                              • Armor and Sword
                                The Lama
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 21789

                                #45
                                The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

                                Best:

                                Ball Physics
                                Humanity AI
                                Quick Manage and Critical Moments
                                Expanded Sounds Of The Show Slots
                                Retro Mode
                                Revamped player editor and faces
                                Generated players vastly improved and using real equipment
                                1000's of new fielding and hitting animations
                                MLB Network Broadcast Presentation Package
                                2 new color guys in the booth
                                Vastly improved franchise menus and U I
                                TBD Road To The Show improvements Path To Glory


                                Bad:

                                Franchise general manager and owner options not expanded this year.


                                Hell of a batting average right there!

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