Directional Hitting users - Can you provide me your franchise HR numbers?

[Blzer]

For those who use directional hitting, would you mind providing me how many home runs each of your starters have in any season of a franchise you have played?

I'm curious how large the discrepancy is between perceived power hitters and non-power hitters. I always feel directional hitting is a poor system because we as users try harder for the home run for those power hitters, and don't want to risk the fly out as much for those with less pop in their bats.

I always had issues with this in the MVP franchise and the later MLB 2K games. Didn't even bother with it in The Show yet. Wondering how the results pan out, and how you ultimately use the system.

Thanks.

[chc2100]

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I use directional hitting but don't really try and direct the ball so it plays just like timing. There seems to be a good spread of power in my franchise so far. I'm midway through August with the Giants (been playing a ton hoping to get to the offseason before 17) but hopefully this is close enough to a full year to give you some insight.

Belt 25
Crawford 24
Pence 18
Duffy 12
Posey 11 (missed half the year)
Span 5
Pagan 4
Panik 2

[rkocjay]

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I have been using the Yankees on all star difficulty but I hit for timing so my first year number looked like this (leaders of HR was a three way tie with Jose abreu Brian McCann and Bryce Harper)

Bird 39
McCann 45
Castro 11
Headley 19
Gregorious 22
Gardner 26
Ellsbury 27
Hicks 13


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[BeatArmy]

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Toronto, 2016. OSFM rosters but I'm about 150 games in, played about 140 myself

Herrera 133G, 10 HR (got for a song near deadline)
Donaldson 141, 40
Bautista 139, 37
Encarnacion 145 40
Lind 122 20 (also near deadline)
Tulo 130 25
Martin 121 17
Pillar 138 4
Travis 77, 3

[Giants2273]

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You guys like directional over zone etc? I've always been a directional hitter, but noticed in lots of the steams and videos guys use zone a lot more..
Do you guys guess pitches?


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[MetsFan16]

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You guys like directional over zone etc? I've always been a directional hitter, but noticed in lots of the steams and videos guys use zone a lot more..
Do you guys guess pitches?


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I used to use Directional, but after playing online and watching these streams, you are at a disadvantage when relying on just timing and your players attributes. You could Time a pitch perfectly and still pop it up. When you use Zone you control where you swing and if you square it up and time it right, it's gonna be a hard hit ball.

Directional was very frustrating for those reasons.


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[Giants2273]

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I used to use Directional, but after playing online and watching these streams, you are at a disadvantage when relying on just timing and your players attributes. You could Time a pitch perfectly and still pop it up. When you use Zone you control where you swing and if you square it up and time it right, it's gonna be a hard hit ball.

Directional was very frustrating for those reasons.


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Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Might have to get into zone. Thanks


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[Spokker]

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When you use Zone you control where you swing and if you square it up and time it right, it's gonna be a hard hit ball.

Many players develop a habit in which they pull down on the stick when they use zone hitting. This could also be exacerbated by being late on pitches. If that's the case, then it probably balances out.

[MetsFan16]

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Many players develop a habit in which they pull down on the stick when they use zone hitting. This could also be exacerbated by being late on pitches. If that's the case, then it probably balances out.

Right. And I feel that's more of a laziness and lack of concentration. When I find myself struggling I notice I am dropping my PCI too much. I make it a focus to stay on top of the ball.

What I was referring to was with Directional Hitting, your are relying on timing only. So if you have good timing, you can still pop the ball up. You have less control of squaring ball up with just good timing. You are also relying on the players attributes along with timing.

With Zone you have more control. You control timing and PCI placement. As opposed to just timing. Players attributes are still a factor, but it is not the only determinant of where PCI is. When you control the PCI to square a ball up and have good timing, you are likely to hit a ball hard somewhere.

[Giants2273]

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Right. And I feel that's more of a laziness and lack of concentration. When I find myself struggling I notice I am dropping my PCI too much. I make it a focus to stay on top of the ball.

What I was referring to was with Directional Hitting, your are relying on timing only. So if you have good timing, you can still pop the ball up. You have less control of squaring ball up with just good timing. You are also relying on the players attributes along with timing.

With Zone you have more control. You control timing and PCI placement. As opposed to just timing. Players attributes are still a factor, but it is not the only determinant of where PCI is. When you control the PCI to square a ball up and have good timing, you are likely to hit a ball hard somewhere.

In theory, with zone if you didn't move the PCI it would work similarly to directional with just timing? As with directional the PCI just remains in the middle anyway


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[MetsFan16]

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In theory, with zone if you didn't move the PCI it would work similarly to directional with just timing? As with directional the PCI just remains in the middle anyway


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I'm not exactly sure. I always tough the PCI did move with Directional, but it moved to the right spot based on player attributes. Better hitters had more accurate PCI placements than lower rated hitters. Though the OSD does show it in the middle every pitch. I'm not sure if that's the case or it doesn't show it moving simply because you aren't controlling it.

Though if you are hitting with Zone, I wouldn't leave the PCI in the middle and go off timing. There aren't a lot of pitches down the middle that allow you to square up and hit it hard. The PCI is much more forgiving left and right than it is up and down. You wouldn't get a lot of solid contact like that.

[Blzer]

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I'd like to see if spins are done correctly this year based on directional hitting influence.

If I'm understanding correctly, aiming down on the analog stick should also result in more of a "chop swing" than level, and aiming up more of an "uppercut swing" than normal. I'm not talking about anything extreme, nor am I expecting animations to show as such... but if three line drives are hit right back up the middle, one for each swing type (normal, chop, lift), then I wonder if we'll get back spin for the downward swing, flush contact with a normal swing, and top spin with an upward swing.

[Armor and Sword]

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It’s pretty simple if you want more user control Zone and pure analog are the way to go.

If you want player ratings to be the dominant dice role factor you play with directional.

I love that we have options. All 3 are fun to play with and bring different aspects that make each of them fun to use.

Personally I am a directional hitter and also use the directional feature and the three different swing types depending on, situation and who is at the dish.

[Blzer]

Re: Directional Hitting users - Can you provide me your franchise HR numbers?

It’s pretty simple if you want more user control Zone and pure analog are the way to go.

If you want player ratings to be the dominant dice role factor you play with directional.

I love that we have options. All 3 are fun to play with and bring different aspects that make each of them fun to use.

Personally I am a directional hitter and also use the directional feature and the three different swing types depending on, situation and who is at the dish.

Who is this directed at? Me? I already use Zone. Directional isn't my cup of tea.

But my above theorizing about spin actually also applies to Zone (hitting below the ball should induce backspin, and above should induce top spin); according to the videos, so far this seems to be true.

What I'm trying to figure out is if it mechanically changed compared to what MVP and MLB 2K only offered in their later years of existence, mostly by use of the home run count in season.

I'm also hoping that The Show never goes down that road and ditches Zone entirely, so...

[Armor and Sword]

Directional Hitting users - Can you provide me your franchise HR numbers?

It was simply a general statement about the three different hitting interfaces we have.

And this is a Directional hitting thread and I am a big time Directional hitter. Even use it online and am a competitive hitter regardless.

The one thing I do give up with the weaker hitters online is with directional I am less likely to square up a mistake pitch where as with a Miguel Cabrera you are toast on a mistake pitch.

In my experience with zone, weaker hitters can be a little bit better with more user input (the ability to get the PCI square on the ball).

Where as with directional you have far less room for error as it is ratings driven.

It really comes down to how you want to approach playing the game.

Even with directional, you still need great pitch recognition, and a good approach. Its not a button mash on All-Star and above levels. Far from it.




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