Top 10 Players at Each Position in MLB The Show 17

[Dolenz]

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Lets see him do something outside Coors then we can talk.

Just FYI. Arenado Hit for higher average, had more RBIS and the same number of Homeruns in away games when compared to Donaldson in his away games. This stuff is easy to look up by the way.

Maybe you want to come up with a better argument.

That said, it is a 1 point difference. Who knows what minor rating diference made one come out ahead of the other

[Dolenz]

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And no Edwin Diaz? Definitely a top 10 closer based on last season.

Limited sample size. I don't know what adjustments they make for players with less than three years but I understand that they can't have most players 2014 and 2015 stats account for 50% of their overall rating and have another guy leapfrog them based on one year.

If he continues then his rating will rise.

[Caulfield]

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These are Donaldson and Arenado numbers away from home in 2016 adjusted to a 162 game season, courtesy Baseball Reference

Donaldson/Arenado
plate appearances-724/688 (this will be key later)

batting ave.-.272/.277
HR-33/32
doubles-24/24
basically a wash

where Donaldson separates himself from Arenado in road games
walks-116/60
obp-.394/.340
ops-.902/.832

but the bottom line of total bases is:
Donaldson-303
Arenado-302
all those walks and he still only outbases Arenado by one base and thats only in Donaldson favor because of the additional 36 plate appearances.
I submit that the reason Donaldson has better numbers than Arenado lies within their repective teammates; Donaldson sees better pitches on the Blue Jays because of his supporting cast as opposed to Arenado and his. Evidence IBB on the road in the aforementioned pro-rated stats:
Donaldson 2 IBB
Arenado 8 IBB
pitchers would rather face anybody but Arenado among him and his teammates, when Arenado come to town.
pitchers might as well just face Donaldson. And they do.

Toronto would be wise to pray the Yankees dont go after Arenado in 2020 if only because Yankee Stadium seems tailor made for Arenado. At which point Donaldson will be 34 in 2020 and his best days in his rearview mirror.
And while I'm on age, Arenado has been an every day player since he was 22. Donaldson was a late bloomer not becoming an everyday starter til he was 27. I believe its far more likely we see Arenado in Cooperstown over Donaldson.

All that said, I actually prefer Machado (though I'm biased because Machado a personal favorite of mine) over both Donaldson and Arenado.

But I would take still take Arenados defense play over Donaldson, Coors field or no, and its not even close.
maybe Donaldson should become a fulltime DH or maybe move to firstbase now that he's settling into his old age.

[D13]

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Arenado is the best 3B in baseball right now. What a joke.

Also, why is Rick Porcello not on this list? See this is why I can't take the list seriously.

Porcello hasn't produced worthy numbers the last 3 years. That's why.

That's very debatable and he is only 1 ovr back from the top.


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Its not even close to debatable. KB is the reigning MVP and is farther up on the WAR board. KB is the best 3b in the game. No questions.

Bryant isnt even the best 3B on his team. If he was, he wouldn't be splitting his time in the outfield.

Plz stop, lmao

With Dahl hurt you don't see Arenado shagging balls in left...

Smh

Bryant is a better hitter and baserunner, Arenado is a better fielder. Bryant has accumulated more war over the past 2 seasons. He won mvp last year. How is he not a better 3B?

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Agreed 100%

[Jaysguy44]

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These are Donaldson and Arenado numbers away from home in 2016 adjusted to a 162 game season, courtesy Baseball Reference

Donaldson/Arenado
plate appearances-724/688 (this will be key later)

batting ave.-.272/.277
HR-33/32
doubles-24/24
basically a wash

where Donaldson separates himself from Arenado in road games
walks-116/60
obp-.394/.340
ops-.902/.832

but the bottom line of total bases is:
Donaldson-303
Arenado-302
all those walks and he still only outbases Arenado by one base and thats only in Donaldson favor because of the additional 36 plate appearances.
I submit that the reason Donaldson has better numbers than Arenado lies within their repective teammates; Donaldson sees better pitches on the Blue Jays because of his supporting cast as opposed to Arenado and his. Evidence IBB on the road in the aforementioned pro-rated stats:
Donaldson 2 IBB
Arenado 8 IBB
pitchers would rather face anybody but Arenado among him and his teammates, when Arenado come to town.
pitchers might as well just face Donaldson. And they do.

Toronto would be wise to pray the Yankees dont go after Arenado in 2020 if only because Yankee Stadium seems tailor made for Arenado. At which point Donaldson will be 34 in 2020 and his best days in his rearview mirror.
And while I'm on age, Arenado has been an every day player since he was 22. Donaldson was a late bloomer not becoming an everyday starter til he was 27. I believe its far more likely we see Arenado in Cooperstown over Donaldson.

All that said, I actually prefer Machado (though I'm biased because Machado a personal favorite of mine) over both Donaldson and Arenado.

But I would take still take Arenados defense play over Donaldson, Coors field or no, and its not even close.
maybe Donaldson should become a fulltime DH or maybe move to firstbase now that he's settling into his old age.

Dude you made a good argument but you fail in choose who's better which is obviously Donalson . Machado is a little and did you watch the WBC game where Arenado blew it for the US with his bonehead throw to first?..no thank you..can't handle pressure...so yeah Donalson wins again as usual go Jays!!

[grgmths1433]

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Dude you made a good argument but you fail in choose who's better which is obviously Donalson . Machado is a little vagina and did you watch the WBC game where Arenado blew it for the US with his bonehead throw to first?..no thank you..can't handle pressure...so yeah Donalson wins again as usual go Jays!!

That was a bad hop. He should've just held the ball.

[zman2392]

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Dude you made a good argument but you fail in choose who's better which is obviously Donalson . Machado is a little vagina and did you watch the WBC game where Arenado blew it for the US with his bonehead throw to first?..no thank you..can't handle pressure...so yeah Donalson wins again as usual go Jays!!

While I don't condone the language... Or necessarily agree with much of this... I may kind of agree with one part.

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[douggoud]

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And I'd take Mike Trout over all of them

[Mitchrapp]

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Imo, the 1st baseman's are rated a bit low..

[Blazzen]

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Wonder where Ender Inciarte ends up. Maybe tied with Odubel Hererra at an 82? Or maybe just below that?

Odubel has more pop but Ender won a gold glove. He can't be too far behind.

[xCULLO]

They're definitely over rating players that don't a lot of PT.. Like Sanchez and Turner. Turner I get to a certain extent but for someone to never play the position in the Majors and be the 3rd highest rated player at that position is ridiculous to me. and Sanchez was the hottest player on Earth right when he got promoted.. *cough *cough Yasiel Puig.. Corey Seager earned that 90 overall with one of the best rookie campaigns at SS of all time.

[Dillow]

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*An obligatory post about how my player on my team is rated too low and a player on a rival team is rated too high*

Next week cant get here fast enough though for real.

[TattooedEvil]

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They're definitely over rating players that don't a lot of PT.. Like Sanchez and Turner. Turner I get to a certain extent but for someone to never play the position in the Majors and be the 3rd highest rated player at that position is ridiculous to me. and Sanchez was the hottest player on Earth right when he got promoted.. *cough *cough Yasiel Puig.. Corey Seager earned that 90 overall with one of the best rookie campaigns at SS of all time.

ya i really dont get how u get a 88 at a position u dont even touch. Apparently a cup of coffee in the MLB at CF means ur as good as BCraw at SS? As long as Crawford is 95+ across the board at defensive attributes im good with the 88 tho even tho he's proved himself wayyyy longer then everyone but Tulo on that list.

[gradek87]

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32 live series diamonds and another 12 at 88-89. Going to be interesting how insider edge changes ratings because we would end up with a ton of live series diamonds this year (already up 25% over last year). Greatly reduces the odds of getting any specific one (and greatly reducing the supply for each as well) and makes the collection missions much harder.

[geisterhome]

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Guys anywhere I can find the ratings for the players team by team?

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