Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

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  • Jaysguy44
    Banned
    • Mar 2017
    • 209

    #31
    Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

    Ive always wondered why John Gibbons, Blue Jays manager, isn't in the game. The manger ingame is just a random dude thats like 20 years younger than Gibbons, its cause he's not part of the MLBPA or something?

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    • ShowTyme15
      LADetermined
      • Jan 2004
      • 11853

      #32
      Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

      Originally posted by Jaysguy44
      Ive always wondered why John Gibbons, Blue Jays manager, isn't in the game. The manger ingame is just a random dude thats like 20 years younger than Gibbons, its cause he's not part of the MLBPA or something?
      No, it's because he hasn't been scanned.


      Yes in case others were wondering coaches can get scans too. If they don't want to be scanned there's nothing SCEA can do about it.

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      • sandmac
        Pro
        • Feb 2003
        • 535

        #33
        Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

        Originally posted by countryboy
        That's not what he's saying. He was pointing out that the 8 people that work on this area have to balance doing faces, uniforms, and equipment. When you have 30 teams with a couple of uniform selections each, at least 25 players per team to work on, and equipment for those players, time becomes very precious and trying to find the "perfect" balance becomes an impossible task.

        Therefore there are going to be things that don't get as much attention as maybe we as the gamers would like.


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        A team of eight or not, there should be no chance some random shin guard or 3rd alternate BP jersey takes priority over building an accurate face for an MLB All Star in this game.

        C'mon how many other manufacturers can charge us $60.00 to purchase their product and then claim low staff numbers when the product's accuracy or effectiveness is called into question?

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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52789

          #34
          Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

          Originally posted by sandmac
          A team of eight or not, there should be no chance some random shin guard or 3rd alternate BP jersey takes priority over building an accurate face for an MLB All Star in this game.



          C'mon how many other manufacturers can charge us $60.00 to purchase their product and then claim low staff numbers when the product's accuracy or effectiveness is called into question?


          Well I tried.

          Carry on.......


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          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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          • Review
            Pro
            • Mar 2003
            • 975

            #35
            Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

            Originally posted by og236
            Would love to have Trout on the cover of 18! Small steps first lol


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            All for Trout being on the cover. He's one of the few guys that got me back into baseball after the steroid nonsense.


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            • Jimmydm90
              Rookie
              • Nov 2013
              • 405

              #36
              Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

              I bet they could get Barry Bonds in the game now that he seems to be trying to rehabilitate his image. Heck he's even at Spring Training right now!

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              • Jaysguy44
                Banned
                • Mar 2017
                • 209

                #37
                Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

                Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                No, it's because he hasn't been scanned.


                Yes in case others were wondering coaches can get scans too. If they don't want to be scanned there's nothing SCEA can do about it.
                Okay i understand Gibbons hasn't been scanned but his character looks nothing like him. I'm guessing the majority of players arent scanned but they come close to looking as real as possible. So why not Gibbons?

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                • ItAllFades
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 324

                  #38
                  Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

                  Originally posted by Jimmydm90
                  I bet they could get Barry Bonds in the game now that he seems to be trying to rehabilitate his image. Heck he's even at Spring Training right now!
                  He was the Marlins hitting coach in the past (Before his Manager got him fired for being Barry)....its not like it should be surprising that he's at Spring Training.

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                  • Vmascarello
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 315

                    #39
                    Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

                    Originally posted by SilverBullet1929
                    Glad Trout got it done but now I'm curious why he said no for so long and suddenly said yes. It's like I'd be more at peace if he just never agreed to it ever. This development is even more perplexing lol.
                    Just a guess, but I have to assume thier is money involved. Its possible with all of the additional revenue Sony San Diego has generated from DD, they came to the conclusion it was worth paying Trout's price.

                    I could be way off, maybe players can't even charge for face scans. It would just make sense with the timing of it happening after a huge cash flow year with MLB the Show 16.

                    This is also why Franchise players like myself and gamers that love other modes should be hapoy with the success of DD. Its only going to give them more resources to make the game better moving forward. And they have already proved they have the work ethic and drive to take advantage of their growing profit margins. The future of the Show looks very bright.
                    Last edited by Vmascarello; 03-27-2017, 09:36 PM.

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                    • SilverBullet1929
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1924

                      #40
                      Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

                      Originally posted by Jaysguy44
                      Okay i understand Gibbons hasn't been scanned but his character looks nothing like him. I'm guessing the majority of players arent scanned but they come close to looking as real as possible. So why not Gibbons?
                      I feel like they just don't work on coaches as intently as they work on players. I've never seen a coach that doesn't have a face scan look good in this game. Most without a face scan have actually looked atrocious and nowhere close to accurate no matter who the coach or how long he's been there. For coaches it seems to be face scan or bust.

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                      • ShowTyme15
                        LADetermined
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 11853

                        #41
                        Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

                        Originally posted by Vmascarello
                        Just a guess, but I have to assume thier is money involved. Its possible with all of the additional revenue Sony San Diego has generated from DD, they came to the conclusion it was worth paying Trout's price.

                        I could be way off, maybe players can't even charge for face scans. It would just make sense with the timing of it happening after a huge cash flow year with MLB the Show 16.

                        This is also why Franchise players like myself and gamers that love other modes should be hapoy with the success of DD. Its only going to give them more resources to make the game better moving forward. And they have already proved they have the work ethic and drive to take advantage of their growing profit margins. The future of the Show looks very bright.
                        There is no money involved. It is strictly voluntary on the player's part to get a scan.

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                        • Speedy
                          #Ace
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 16143

                          #42
                          Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

                          Originally posted by sandmac
                          So you prioritize uniforms and equipment builds over actually having the player faces accurate? As the OP said, several of these players have been in the league for years and are MLB All Star players...
                          Originally posted by sandmac
                          A team of eight or not, there should be no chance some random shin guard or 3rd alternate BP jersey takes priority over building an accurate face for an MLB All Star in this game.

                          C'mon how many other manufacturers can charge us $60.00 to purchase their product and then claim low staff numbers when the product's accuracy or effectiveness is called into question?
                          You're not looking at the big picture.

                          What if I am playing RTTS? I'm not going to see Trout's face in game but I will care about all of the equipment I can put on my player to make him stand out to me.

                          What about franchise mode? Trout could be traded, retire or me be 20+ years into the franchise...his face scan wouldn't be nearly important to me when compared to the jerseys I'd be seeing on the field every game I play.

                          I'd rather have multiple equipment options (let's round off and say 40 total possibilities) x 6-7 jerseys x 25 guys x 162 games versus the face scan of one player be in the game.

                          SCEA's math lines up in my book and to be frank, there's not to many times I can say that their logic is flawed in how they've prioritized what went into the development cycle.
                          Last edited by Speedy; 03-27-2017, 10:18 PM.
                          Originally posted by Gibson88
                          Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                          It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                          • The Left Shark
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 461

                            #43
                            Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

                            Originally posted by berenjena
                            Todd Frazier - this one is blowing my mind.
                            But I just want a simple explanation as for why Todd Frazier still has a generic white face when he debuted in 2011.
                            Because you can't just go up to someone, demand that they put the mo-cap on (whatever they use to scan the faces), force it onto them if they say no?

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                            • BL8001
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 1884

                              #44
                              Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

                              If we could just edit the faces...
                              resident curmudgeon

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                              • ItAllFades
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 324

                                #45
                                Re: Explain to me why the following players don't face scans for 17?

                                Originally posted by BL8001
                                If we could just edit the faces...
                                Pretty sure you can't edit a face scan, since it's...a scan. It wouldn't morph correctly.

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