MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[The Left Shark]

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I'm starting a franchise this weekend when ossify drops with my white sox. Looking to trade Q for a outfield prospect as we are thin there. Is there realistic trades centered around Q for meadows, Q for robles or Q for Rutherford/frazier as those teams could trade for him, if so what are some realistic trades. Thanks in advance.

Dodgers and Verdugo could be another realistic one.

[kenp86]

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what's the return on:
Tyler Skaggs
Garrett richards
Danny espinoza
Yunel Escobar
Huston street
Andrew heaney
Ricky nolasco

[babybombers]

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what's the return on:
Tyler Skaggs
Garrett richards
Danny espinoza
Yunel Escobar
Huston street
Andrew heaney
Ricky nolasco

there is little to know value for Richards, espinoza, Escobar or street. They are pretty much players that would be dumped for the most part. You might be able to get C POT prospects for them while Skaggs and Heaney together in one deal could get you a 60-100 prospect in my opinion.
You could trade them both for Raimel Tapia and German Marquez of the Rockies

[breaking_ankles99]

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Dodgers and Verdugo could be another realistic one.

Thats an interesting one, i do really like verdugo, i assume i could also get a couple other prospects as well because Q is more valuable imo

[babybombers]

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So as an example, how would you calculate the value of someone like Kyle Seager, who has 7 years, $100M on his contract. I see a rough WAR of 4.5 this year averaging a few together.

I see he has 6 yrs 95 million left on his contract.

Ages 18-27 WAR raises .25 per year 28-30 it stays the same and 31-37 goes down .5 per year and 38 and over goes down .75 per year so in this case he is 29 so
2017-4.5
2018-4.5
2019-4
2020-3.5
2021-3
2022-2.5

22 WAR x 9 - 95 = Surplus of 103

[soxfan30]

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Red Sox franchise is beginning Saturday at 10PM! The Bullpen is a concern for me. What are some arms I could target in the mid-season and what are their prices? Thanks a bunch and I love this thread.

[The Left Shark]

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Thats an interesting one, i do really like verdugo, i assume i could also get a couple other prospects as well because Q is more valuable imo

Yes of course he is.

[kenp86]

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Figured all id get were Cs. Ok with that. Think i can build a team around trout, pujols, simmons, Calhoun, jahmai jones and matt thaiss. Pitching is easier to find anyways.

Ill be controlling colorado as well. Maybe i can use Heaney as a end of rotation guy for them and skagga maybe long relief. They need a lot of help pitchig wise

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Perfect, that makes a lot sense. I appreciate that. I wasn't sure how it worked with prime years vs. decline years, so that was very helpful.

So last question. How would you calculate someone that isn't in the majors and has team control and arbitration? I have seen a couple of examples on here, but what would the general formula be? I saw Kyle Lewis has a value of $38M, but how is someone calculated that won't be in the majors this year, or maybe even next year?

It's an approximation based on the future value ranking the prospect gets. There's a large enough sample of say 55FV prospects to say that they average whatever value is listed. It only gets hard on 75FV guys or higher because there's only been one or two of those guys (A-Rod is one)

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[babybombers]

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Figured all id get were Cs. Ok with that. Think i can build a team around trout, pujols, simmons, Calhoun, jahmai jones and matt thaiss. Pitching is easier to find anyways.

Ill be controlling colorado as well. Maybe i can use Heaney as a end of rotation guy for them and skagga maybe long relief. They need a lot of help pitchig wise

agreed thats why i thought they were the best trade options.

[babybombers]

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Perfect, that makes a lot sense. I appreciate that. I wasn't sure how it worked with prime years vs. decline years, so that was very helpful.

So last question. How would you calculate someone that isn't in the majors and has team control and arbitration? I have seen a couple of examples on here, but what would the general formula be? I saw Kyle Lewis has a value of $38M, but how is someone calculated that won't be in the majors this year, or maybe even next year?

That is where it is more difficult and where I tend to struggle a bit is arb and team control players because it is impossible to know what they will get in arb.

[breaking_ankles99]

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Just a trade might be favoured in white sox side a bit and i might need to add, but would like to hear your thoughts. Thanks
To dodgers:
Quintana

To white sox:
Alvarez
Verdugo
Diaz

[BigOscar]

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Do the Dodgers really need more pitching? I mean, obviously Quintana upgrades their rotation, but is it by enough for them to want to give up a lot of prospects for? It would leave them with even more money invested in starting pitchers who aren't going to be in the rotation

[breaking_ankles99]

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Do the Dodgers really need more pitching? I mean, obviously Quintana upgrades their rotation, but is it by enough for them to want to give up a lot of prospects for? It would leave them with even more money invested in starting pitchers who aren't going to be in the rotation

Fair point maybe I look elsewhere

[babybombers]

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Carassco has been better than Tanaka and is owed less through 2019 before the option years hit ($19 million over 3 years) than Tanaka is for 2017 ($22 million)

Basically he's worth a lot more alone than Tanaka

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I guess what i did in the trade was made all the surplus value equal. here is the list of players with their surplus that I made it even. With the Indians making out the most. I know that our values do not add up 100% because I use Baseball Reference for WAR but.....

Yankees Carrasco 84
Astros Tanaka 28 Fowler (20) Pineda 11 Green (14)
Kaminsky 10
Indians McCullers 88 Holder 13 Abreu 13