MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[babybombers]

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Yes they haven't however it has gotten them the team and has them, set-up like they are now. Also I think I thought you were on the other side of this. I thought you were looking to deal Longo, but now I think your CLE and see trying to get him?

Well where are you at in the season? What are the records? How is Longo's stats?

Yeah sorry I did not specify. I am the Indians.

Indians record 35-11

Rays record 18-28

Longoria is hitting .281 with 7 HRs 24 RBIs

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Yeah sorry I did not specify. I am the Indians.

Indians record 35-11

Rays record 18-28

Longoria is hitting .281 with 7 HRs 24 RBIs

Give up Fransisco Mejia and Triston McKenzie. Those two should move the needle but let you keep Zimmer. The Rays stay in a constant hunt for a catcher so Mejia would be a big target there

[HighCmpPct]

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Diaz deserves it. I think Indians fans are going to be happy with what they see in him.

Urshela + Brown and it's a deal. Urshela doesn't have a home in Cleveland and Kime (I had to look up both him and Brown) seems to walk every other batter he faces. Keep me in mind at the deadline, if your bullpen is hurting, I have arms to to add to Davis but by that point, you may have more affection for Diaz.

This is also one of those minor deals we can point back to in a few weeks about how to set value. Good trade.

Haha I'm having to learn as I go a little more than usual as I'm not a Indians fan per say. I'm a true Yankee fan at heart, but I also have love for my hometown the Braves I grew up watching. So I know there systems really well, and I'm really informed on the rest of the league as well, but when it comes to the Kimes and Browns of the orgs I gotta look em up too lol.

[babybombers]

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Give up Fransisco Mejia and Triston McKenzie. Those two should move the needle but let you keep Zimmer. The Rays stay in a constant hunt for a catcher so Mejia would be a big target there

I traded for Zach Collins earlier in the season would he work instead?

[GamecocksLaw17]

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I traded for Zach Collins earlier in the season would he work instead?

No. If you're the team asking for Longoria give up whichever catcher hurts you more to give up. Mejia is the better catching prospect so you have to give him

[HighCmpPct]

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Give up Fransisco Mejia and Triston McKenzie. Those two should move the needle but let you keep Zimmer. The Rays stay in a constant hunt for a catcher so Mejia would be a big target there

It'll start a conversation but it's not enough. You're trying to get their Derek Jeter/Chipper Jones here. Not to mention he's under contract until 2022 so he's far from a rental. If you think you can keep Zimmer, I don't believe so.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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It'll start a conversation but it's not enough. You're trying to get their Derek Jeter/Chipper Jones here. Not to mention he's under contract until 2022 so he's far from a rental. If you think you can keep Zimmer, I don't believe so.

I think you're right after looking at it more. Take out McKenzie, add in Zimmer and Aiken.

So Mejia, Zimmer and Aiken

[hampshirestags]

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What does the bold mean? I will probably do 30 team, so I could make whatever deal would seem fair. I don't think I mentioned in my origianl post that I was doing 30 team.

From what I gather, Texas will have a chance to resign, but asking price will be too much.

I mean the package that I (or others in the thread) may come back to you with. You no longer have to compensate for the value of the late 1st round draft pick if Texas decided to not trade him and offer him the QO. Taking that out of the equation is going to lessen the total value of prospects offered. You will still be in a sellers market and it will be a quality package, I was just trying to temper expectations from what I gather is a hometown fan dealing his #1 ace. See where I'm headed?

I'll defer to your opinion on Darvish not being resigned but letting that guy walk over money...yeesh!

[GamecocksLaw17]

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I mean the package that I (or others in the thread) may come back to you with. You no longer have to compensate for the value of the late 1st round draft pick if Texas decided to not trade him and offer him the QO. Taking that out of the equation is going to lessen the total value of prospects offered. You will still be in a sellers market and it will be a quality package, I was just trying to temper expectations from what I gather is a hometown fan dealing his #1 ace. See where I'm headed?

I'll defer to your opinion on Darvish not being resigned but letting that guy walk over money...yeesh!

I think Darvish is one of the few guys who got actually match the Price to TOR package. So something along those same lines should make it happen at the deadline. (Norris, Boyd, Labourt) Norris was a top-25 prospect. Since the whole QO thing, you would probably get a touch below that, but a pitching prospect between 25-50 seems like a reasonable headliner for Darvish

[GamecocksLaw17]

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I traded for Zach Collins earlier in the season would he work instead?

How did you get Collins? The White Sox are rebuilding and he's a major piece of their rebuild so it should have been for really legit future value for them

[MrSerendipity]

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Okay, here is my situation. Prepare for far too much information. I'm currently six games back and two games over .500 on June 1st. I'm looking at a few different options as I approach the deadline.

1.) Cave - Trade Darvish
Darvish Current Stats:
W-L: 8-2 | IP: 103.1 | SO: 111 | ERA: 2.79 | WHIP: 1.13 | WAR: 3.2

Wild Card Competitors: Cleveland, Boston, New York (AL), Houston, New York (NL), Chicago (NL), San Francisco, Arizona, Atlanta

Chicago Cubs: The Cubs are down in their division by four games to the Cardinals in the NL Central. They're down half a game to the Braves and Mets in the Wild Card race. Arrieta and Lester are both experiencing great seasons with mid 2 ERA's. Hendricks has a respectable 3.35 ERA, however both Anderson and Lackey have ERA's in the fours and losing records. Chicago isn't a desperate team but maybe they're open to moving prospects to get a rental elite pitcher in an effort to return to the WS. I'm very interested in Happ, who I would try moving to 3B. With that said, I recognize that Happ for a rental pitcher (no matter how good) is being too hopeful. Is there a combination of Darvish and some low level recruits I could swap for Happ? Mendez, Gallo and Taveras aren't options. However, I would consider packaging a player like Gomez or DeShields for OF help. My other interest with the Cubs is a package built around Jeimer Candelario. Jeimer is blocked at both 3B and 1B by Bryant and Rizzo so he should be expendable. Cease is someone else I like.

New York Yankees: The Yankees are down in their division by twelve games to the Blue Jays in the AL East. They're down two games in the AL Wild Card race. Jordan Montgomery is pitching in the low fours in terms of ERA, Severino and Sabathia are both pitching in the mid fives in terms of ERA. Thus, Darvish could be an instant help to their Rotation and they stand a good chance of being able to resign him in the offseason. I love both Frazier and Judge but both are likely as out of reach as Happ with the Cubs. In addition to that, New York may be complacent with their current standing given some of the talent in their farm system and how many games back they are in their division.

San Francisco Giants: The Giants are fourteen games back in the NL West and three games back in the NL Wild Card race. Currently, Cain has an ERA of almost six and Cueto is mid four. I would be interested in a package of Arroyo and Reynolds but I doubt San Francisco's motivation to make this move given Darvish may not be enough of a push to get them in the race for the World Series.

New York Mets: The Mets are eight games back in the NL East and are currently leading (alongside Atlanta) in the NL Wild Card race. The Mets aren't proving to be the best matchup for a trade as they're far from a team that needs pitching. DeGrom has a 1.27 ERA in 99 IP and Harvey has a 2.31 ERA in 50.2 IP. Syndergaard has a 2.72 ERA in 76 IP, however he is on the 60 Day DL with 55 days remaining due to a shoulder separation. Gsellman has a 4.50 ERA with 76 IP and Syndergaard's replacement Rafael Montero has a 6.23 ERA after 8.2 IP.

I could see them considering going after Darvish while Syndergaard is out but that is likely all Darvish would be. It's hard to believe the Mets would resign Darvish when they already have three top-end pitchers. The only player in their farm that really piques my interest is Dominic Smith but I would probably take Tebow off their hands for giggles.

2.) Compete - Trade for Pitching (Willing to Move Top-End Prospects)

Chris Archer - TB (Team Record: 34-48)
W/L: 4-4 | 49.1 IP | 55 SO | 3.65 ERA | 1.34 WHIP | WAR 0.7

Jason Vargas - KC (Team Record: 33-47)
W/L: 9-3 | 97 IP | 68 SO | 2.23 ERA | 1.15 WHIP | WAR 2.0

Phil Hughes - MIN (Team Record: 41-39)
W/L: 6-4 | 93.1 IP | 56 SO | 3.28 ERA | 1.15 WHIP | WAR 1.5

3.) Compete - Trade for Batting (Willing to Move Top-End Prospects)

CF Andrew McCutchen - PIT (Team Record: 38-42)
.303 Avg | 12 HR | 50 RBI | 274 AB | 5 SB | .982 FLD

1B Eric Hosmer - KC (Team Record: 33-47)
.254 Avg | 12 HR | 40 RBI | 291 AB | 4 SB | .995 FLD

1B Paul Goldschmidt - ARI (Team Record: 41-40)
.298 Avg | 19 HR | 58 RBI | 295 AB | 8 SB | .991 FLD

1B Wil Myers - SD (Team Record: 27-54)
.279 Avg | 15 HR | 44 RBI | 297 AB | 7 SB | .992 FLD

4.) Sit Still

I appreciate any input that anyone wants to provide. I recognize that I very likely can't afford many of the purchasable pieces I listed.

[hampshirestags]

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I think Darvish is one of the few guys who got actually match the Price to TOR package. So something along those same lines should make it happen at the deadline. (Norris, Boyd, Labourt) Norris was a top-25 prospect. Since the whole QO thing, you would probably get a touch below that, but a pitching prospect between 25-50 seems like a reasonable headliner for Darvish

Totally agree. The headliner should be in the 25-50 range however, the other minor pieces is where the value is going to be hit the hardest.

After the fiasco that was the comment section in the roster threads the past few days, I was trying to error on the side of caution. I'm here to talk baseball, not make anybody mad.

[HighCmpPct]

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Totally agree. The headliner should be in the 25-50 range however, the other minor pieces is where the value is going to be hit the hardest.

After the fiasco that was the comment section in the roster threads the past few days, I was trying to error on the side of caution. I'm here to talk baseball, not make anybody mad.

Let's also not forget when comparing to the Price deal that Price is a league leader in IP over the past seasons. Meanwhile Darvish has had a good bit of trouble staying healthy.

It won't impact the value significantly, but it will alter it some.

[hampshirestags]

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Okay, here is my situation. Prepare for far too much information. I'm currently six games back and two games over .500 on June 1st. I'm looking at a few different options as I approach the deadline.

I appreciate any input that anyone wants to provide. I recognize that I very likely can't afford many of the purchasable pieces I listed.

Now that is some info! I was hoping for a little bit better scenario in which to work but we have some folks paying attention so I'll get the conversation started...

First, MIN is 41-39 and P. Hughes is pitching out of his mind...what is this world coming to? Get Hughes a cup and watch him fill it up. If it comes back clean, I want to trade for him!

Second, stay put. You have the pieces to make a run and it's not a particular strong division, you can make up games in the WC.

Since the second piece is no fun, enter NYY and HOU (potential wild card teams). Package for Darvish as follows:

HOU - D. Paulino + F. Perez + high C prospect (they get a little tax for playing in the same division)

NYY - J. Sheffield + D. Fowler + C prospect

That's how I see a framework. The window dressing can be adjusted slightly to fit a need but Paulino or Sheffield will headline from each respective team.

Let the debate begin...

P.S. if you stay put, targeting P. Hughes and E. Hosmer would not be a bad idea. I would definitley resign Darvish at the end of the year though to make up for the pieces you give for Hosmer. He's not going to be that expensive to trade for and KC shouldn't be able to afford his market rate next year.

[TheMadleR]

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Now with the OSFM rosters out I'm going to be starting my real Cardinals franchise. I'm planning on developing Reyes but I want to get another arm. Is there a realistic trade out there that I could get a 1 or a 2 type rotation guy? Preferably a lefty.

Another trade I'm interested in doing is replacing Peralta or Wong. I'm gonna try and replace them with Defense and Contact ability as the most important factors. I just don't know what would be the most realistic options out there. I would be looking for improvement for the current year not prospects.

Would love some suggestions.

Edit: The players I consider untradeable are Fowler, Piscotty, Diaz, Carpenter, Molina, Waino and Martinez.