Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[LionsFan01]

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Just downloaded the game, messing around with trades to get a feel for this year's system while waiting for rosters to be completed. Feels like prospects, even A potential guys with lots of value, don't matter much to the CPU. Teams aren't interested even if all I ask for a 30 year old bench player. Seems like if there's not an MLB guy involved there's not going to be a trade to be had. And the trade finder puts together really lopsided packages most of the time. Didn't spend a ton of time with it, so what's the consensus on trying to use the Dombrowski method of prospect packages for proven players?

[Skillet05]

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the trading is harder this year as I was messing around with trading players with the pirates and I couldn't acquire Quintana or anyone with 2 A potential minor leaguers plus Hutchinson unless the pitcher was a 4 or 5 in the rotation

[Tdoyle2021]

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the trading is harder this year as I was messing around with trading players with the pirates and I couldn't acquire Quintana or anyone with 2 A potential minor leaguers plus Hutchinson unless the pitcher was a 4 or 5 in the rotation

Agreed that is nicer. Just wish the CPU trading was more realistic.

[brandonholmes]

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Agreed that is nicer. Just wish the CPU trading was more realistic.

30-team control is a godsend, and its really no hassle as long as you set everything to auto.

[bobbyb9827]

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Controlling the Yankees, looking at picking up Sonny Gray, mike foltynewicz or Michael Wacha. Which would be the most realistic? Willing to part with Mateo, Rutherford, Williams and maybe a few others.

[LionsFan01]

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the trading is harder this year as I was messing around with trading players with the pirates and I couldn't acquire Quintana or anyone with 2 A potential minor leaguers plus Hutchinson unless the pitcher was a 4 or 5 in the rotation

It feels like no matter how much surplus value you're giving the CPU, a package built around just prospects isn't going to get you very much. Which is good and bad IMO. Good so that you can't just go out year 1 and build a dynasty by doing the old quantity for quality trades. But bad because realistic trades involving just prospects on one side are very difficult to pull off. I enjoy being able to cash in some of those young guys who are years away from contributing for MLB ready talent, but this year it feels like that is next to impossible.

[Skillet05]

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I think Wacha would be if you're trading at the beginning but at the Deadline possibly sonny gray.

[Skillet05]

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Once the roster update is out, who should I target as trade targets for the Pirates? I'm thinking of going after Qunitana but I might want to be realistic and trade Cutch if he is struggling or if he is doing great and I'm not contending and then bring up Meadows

[lil frier]

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It feels like no matter how much surplus value you're giving the CPU, a package built around just prospects isn't going to get you very much. Which is good and bad IMO. Good so that you can't just go out year 1 and build a dynasty by doing the old quantity for quality trades. But bad because realistic trades involving just prospects on one side are very difficult to pull off. I enjoy being able to cash in some of those young guys who are years away from contributing for MLB ready talent, but this year it feels like that is next to impossible.

I think this would be helped if they reworked Potential. John Lackey shouldn't have an 'A' potential at 38. I think 2K used to basically strip the Potential stat off a player after the age of 30. If The Show did something similar, then treated Potential as an elite trait, it could resolve the "quantity for quality" stuff by lowering the value of the middling prospects, while allowing prospect packages by giving a talent like Glasnow or Moncada serious value. They could also add some kind of "Bargain" rating as well, pumping up cheap/controlled players for being on great contracts.

Once the roster update is out, who should I target as trade targets for the Pirates? I'm thinking of going after Qunitana but I might want to be realistic and trade Cutch if he is struggling or if he is doing great and I'm not contending and then bring up Meadows

I think Quintana is a great idea, but possibly not worth the cost, if you like Glasnow enough (I think he has to be involved). I'd try moving McCutchen to give Meadows room. Trouble is, you either have to accept it as a rebuild trade, or find a team in the playoff hunt who has a surplus of starting pitching and a need for a CF.

[kenp86]

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Whats greinkes value? Waiting for osfm

[BigOscar]

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Whats greinkes value? Waiting for osfm

He's pretty much untradeable until he starts pitching a bit better imo, with that contract. That contract is a franchise killer, they still owe him about $180m

[kenp86]

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He's pretty much untradeable until he starts pitching a bit better imo, with that contract. That contract is a franchise killer, they still owe him about $180m

If hes pitching grear, whats his value?

[BigOscar]

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If hes pitching grear, whats his value?

Tough to say as there still aren't many teams who could afford that contract, or would risk it when there are still so many years on it. It's a lot like Votto, the guy is quality and worth the money he's on, but he's got so many years committed at that high price that it's such a large commitment and gamble on them staying at that level.

Others might disagree, but I don't think he has much value even if he has a Cy Young year, just as the contract is so bad. But he'd need a great year for anyone to even consider taking him off your hands imo. In real life they are almost certainly going to have to retain a huge chunk of his salary to get rid of him

[MrSerendipity]

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I'm still waiting for OSFM to release but I wanted to ask about a potential trade option involving Texas and LA (Dodgers). If in this scenario, Texas is pretty far back and LA is pushing for a strong World Series run, is a trade involving Yu for a package around Bellinger realistic? I'm hoping to get a young 1B Prospect, one P prospect and one OF prospect in return for Yu. I'm kind of thinking of something along these lines:

LA Receives:
P - Yu Darvish
C Prospect

Tex Receives:
1B - Cody Bellinger
OF - DJ Peters
P - Mitchell White

Am I swinging too high here with Darvish becoming a Free Agent?

[babybombers]

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I'm still waiting for OSFM to release but I wanted to ask about a potential trade option involving Texas and LA (Dodgers). If in this scenario, Texas is pretty far back and LA is pushing for a strong World Series run, is a trade involving Yu for a package around Bellinger realistic? I'm hoping to get a young 1B Prospect, one P prospect and one OF prospect in return for Yu. I'm kind of thinking of something along these lines:

LA Receives:
P - Yu Darvish
C Prospect

Tex Receives:
1B - Cody Bellinger
OF - DJ Peters
P - Mitchell White

Am I swinging too high here with Darvish becoming a Free Agent?

Most everyone will say Darvish isnt enough but in my opintion if you give a B prospect instead of a C then its a done deal. I like to look back at the Chapman to cubs for Torres trade which the cubs got a closer for a year and you are giving up a Starter for a year for roughly the same price