Too many HR's?

[wellred]

Re: Too many HR's?

As stated above I think people just wanna play on the lower to mid range difficulties this year and are expecting the same experience. You can't do that in year to year titles and expect it to be the same experience. It's fine if they wanna stretch out the difficulty ranges a bit more and make the game more accessible in the lower catagories and make the upper difficulty levels more viable. Putting the game on legend last year with directional hitting would've been a complete joke, maybe not on zone if you're really good. But personally I don't like to use zone hitting and would at least like legend difficulty to be something that would be possible for someone using directional, in the past that wouldn't have been possible. At least play around with dynamic difficulty first to see what range you should be looking at this year.

Also I felt there were too many homeruns last year at first as well and upping the difficulty largely fixed that issue for me.

[Blazzen]

Re: Too many HR's?

I'm averaging 1 HR a game and giving up 1 HR a game. I'm playing on default hall of fame with ZONE hitting. I'm playing as the Braves. Each homerun I hit felt good, no cheap ones.

The only real BOMB I hit was 434 feet with Tyler Flowers. 3-1 fastball, I was sitting fastball, used guess pitch fastball, power swing with perfect PCI alignment and I absolutely blasted it so it felt right.

I've hit homeruns with Freddie Freeman (3), Matt Kemp (3), Adonis Garcia (2), Brandon Phillips (1), Tyler Flowers (1). 10 homeruns in 10 games. There's been two games that I hit 3 HR's and several other games that I hit none.

I'm pitching on default hall of fame with meter pitching. Most of the HR's I've given up to the CPU have felt right. There might've been 1 or 2 that were pretty decent pitches they put good swings on. It's been fine IMO.

So if you're having trouble with too many HR's try default hall of fame with zone hitting and meter pitching. The Braves certainly don't have the best lineup or pitching staff and I'm seeing acceptable results.

[Razeart2422]

Re: Too many HR's?

I think there are a couple things at play here....and for the record I do not think there are too many HRs....

Hitting is easier this year, and in a good way!
When you time a pitch now, or hit a hanging breaking pitch up in the zone you crush it like you would in real life.

I do agree the ball seems to carry too far in most cases (500+ FT HRs) but I think the amount of HRs is realistic.

Now the reason I say the game is easier and not more realistic (it is more realistic!) is because I think for a long time lot of us got stuck in this pattern of "Rookie/Veteran too easy, All-Star is frustrating, HoF is too hard, and why does Legend Hitting even exist?"

I think with the new ball physics, slower pitches, we are now hitting better than we ever did...we have been basically practicing all these years on a harder, unrealistic version of hitting where balls did not travel correctly, balls hung too long, and solid hits were hard to come by....all these things have been fixed and when you now take the same approach you have been used to taking on the more frustrating hitting from before....we are getting better results.

Now that it is more realistic, it almost seems easier, but I think in reality you have become a better hitter than you are giving yourself credit for over the years. I think for those hitting too many HRs you need to raise difficulty level. Whenever something is too easy in a game thats what you do....

For me I was always borderline Veteran and All-Star, so now I think All-Star is really really good out the box.

If you are hitting too many HRs, and you have not tried raising the difficulty level, you are not even trying to remedy your issue. Go all the way up too Legend and tell me you are still hitting 9 bombs a game....

The fact that I am hitting so many homeruns with guys like Brett Gardner who has a 51 power against RHP shows that there is a huge problem with the amount of homeruns in this game.

In my Season with the Yankees I'm 18 games in and I already have 3 Homeruns with Gardner and that's with the power slider set at -4 from the beginning of the season. There is no way this should be happening on any difficulty setting. IT's Extremely UN-REALISTIC. I'm playing on All Star hitting. An on top of that all runs scored are from Homeruns. So its rare to score with just doubles and singles.

That means that I'm on pace to hit (Lets say I hit 3 HRs every 20 games with Gardner) 24 homeruns with Gardner.

20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
160games = 24 HRs and this is with the power slider set 4 clicks to the left. I can only imagine how many homeruns i would be hitting if i left the sliders at default. I hit 3 home runs in a game with Gardner on default sliders. That's what caused me to lower the power 4 clicks to the left. Its more realistic now but i still shouldn't be 2nd behind Aaron Judge (who has 4 HRS) in my season with a 51 power guy.

[El_MaYiMbE]

Re: Too many HR's?

The fact that I am hitting so many homeruns with guys like Brett Gardner who has a 51 power against RHP shows that there is a huge problem with the amount of homeruns in this game.

In my Season with the Yankees I'm 18 games in and I already have 3 Homeruns with Gardner and that's with the power slider set at -4 from the beginning of the season. There is no way this should be happening on any difficulty setting. IT's Extremely UN-REALISTIC. I'm playing on All Star hitting. An on top of that all runs scored are from Homeruns. So its rare to score with just doubles and singles.

That means that I'm on pace to hit (Lets say I hit 3 HRs every 20 games with Gardner) 24 homeruns with Gardner.

20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
160games = 24 HRs and this is with the power slider set 4 clicks to the left. I can only imagine how many homeruns i would be hitting if i left the sliders at default. I hit 3 home runs in a game with Gardner on default sliders. That's what caused me to lower the power 4 clicks to the left. Its more realistic now but i still shouldn't be 2nd behind Aaron Judge (who has 4 HRS) in my season with a 51 power guy.

Raise difficulty and see what happens.

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[countryboy]

Re: Too many HR's?

I'm averaging 1 HR a game and giving up 1 HR a game. I'm playing on default hall of fame with ZONE hitting. I'm playing as the Braves. Each homerun I hit felt good, no cheap ones.

The only real BOMB I hit was 434 feet with Tyler Flowers. 3-1 fastball, I was sitting fastball, used guess pitch fastball, power swing with perfect PCI alignment and I absolutely blasted it so it felt right.

I've hit homeruns with Freddie Freeman (3), Matt Kemp (3), Adonis Garcia (2), Brandon Phillips (1), Tyler Flowers (1). 10 homeruns in 10 games. There's been two games that I hit 3 HR's and several other games that I hit none.

I'm pitching on default hall of fame with meter pitching. Most of the HR's I've given up to the CPU have felt right. There might've been 1 or 2 that were pretty decent pitches they put good swings on. It's been fine IMO.

So if you're having trouble with too many HR's try default hall of fame with zone hitting and meter pitching. The Braves certainly don't have the best lineup or pitching staff and I'm seeing acceptable results.

This is exactly what I play. Default Hall of Fame with Zone Batting and Meter Pitching. I don't use Guess Pitch.

[El_MaYiMbE]

Re: Too many HR's?

This is exactly what I play. Default Hall of Fame with Zone Batting and Meter Pitching. I don't use Guess Pitch.

I use All-Star Directional and HoF Classic Pitching. I turn off all visual aids....Strike zone, vibration, PCI, swing info, even pitch selection.

I play very hardcore, sim, ratings based style. I have not had HR derbys.

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[WhiteBunny]

Re: Too many HR's?

I think there are a couple things at play here....and for the record I do not think there are too many HRs....

Hitting is easier this year, and in a good way!
When you time a pitch now, or hit a hanging breaking pitch up in the zone you crush it like you would in real life.

I do agree the ball seems to carry too far in most cases (500+ FT HRs) but I think the amount of HRs is realistic.

Now the reason I say the game is easier and not more realistic (it is more realistic!) is because I think for a long time lot of us got stuck in this pattern of "Rookie/Veteran too easy, All-Star is frustrating, HoF is too hard, and why does Legend Hitting even exist?"

I think with the new ball physics, slower pitches, we are now hitting better than we ever did...we have been basically practicing all these years on a harder, unrealistic version of hitting where balls did not travel correctly, balls hung too long, and solid hits were hard to come by....all these things have been fixed and when you now take the same approach you have been used to taking on the more frustrating hitting from before....we are getting better results.

Now that it is more realistic, it almost seems easier, but I think in reality you have become a better hitter than you are giving yourself credit for over the years. I think for those hitting too many HRs you need to raise difficulty level. Whenever something is too easy in a game thats what you do....

For me I was always borderline Veteran and All-Star, so now I think All-Star is really really good out the box.

If you are hitting too many HRs, and you have not tried raising the difficulty level, you are not even trying to remedy your issue. Go all the way up too Legend and tell me you are still hitting 9 bombs a game....

If you were between Veteran and All Star i can hear you, but it's not a good test. You're hitting better this year cause the PCI is so much bigger than MLB 16 and i don't really know how you can talk about realism when at All Star level there are batters with 37 contact rating and a PCI that cover the whole strikezone. I'm just an average zone hitter and i get 3-5 HR's every single game. Now i'm trying to play HOF on both pitching/hitting and this was my last game. I was Cleveland and as always all my runs come by HR's, Detroit score 4/5 runs in the same way.

[El_MaYiMbE]

Re: Too many HR's?

If you were between Veteran and All Star i can hear you, but it's not a good test. You're hitting better this year cause the PCI is so much bigger than MLB 16 and i don't really know how you can talk about realism when at All Star level there are batters with 37 contact rating and a PCI that cover the whole strikezone. I'm just an average zone hitter and i get 3-5 HR's every single game. Now i'm trying to play HOF on both pitching/hitting and this was my last game. I was Cleveland and as always all my runs come by HR's, Detroit score 4/5 runs in the same way.

Too small sample size. 1 game.
What if next game you get no hit, will you say HoF is too hard?

I hear you guys but I am sure there is happy medium somewhere. And I think first step is to raise difficulty and really get a large sample of games.

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[Seancefc]

Re: Too many HR's?

CPU are hitting too many HR's too so don't think it's a difficulty issue as i'm beating the CPU, but they're hitting the ball out the park (500+ yards) on a consistent basis.

Definitely needs nerfing.

[BobSacamano]

Re: Too many HR's?

I had a lot of success with dynamic difficulty in '15 (I skipped last year), so that's what I started with this year. I'm absolutely mashing the ball using directional hitting. I've scored something in the neighborhood of 30 runs in 2 games, and have hit 8 homers. One was a lefty-lefty matchup with Andrew Benintendi at the plate. It was an 0-2 pitch, and I used a contact swing. He hit it about 410. Not only am I hitting bombs, but every out is a laser beam.

So, I don't know what to think. I know the difficulty needs to increase, but I also want to stick with dynamic difficulty because that worked well for me in the past. I think it's somewhere in the Veteran range right now, and I definitely should be in the All-Star ++ area. Can I move this along, or do I need to play a few more blowout games?


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[WhiteBunny]

Re: Too many HR's?

Too small sample size. 1 game.
What if next game you get no hit, will you say HoF is too hard?

I hear you guys but I am sure there is happy medium somewhere. And I think first step is to raise difficulty and really get a large sample of games.

I'm playing from midnight of launch day. You find easier to hit just because the PCI on All Star level it's the same of Veteran level in MLB 16. And for a good reason: it's the default level for online games and for DD players ( which are the big part of the newcomers and which spend a lot of money in cards and packs ). HOF difficult level it's like All Star level in MLB 16 which was my default difficult level last year. And as a matter of fact on HOF i get the same number of hits i get in MLB 16. So i'm pretty much the same hitter. But with a difference. Now 30%-40% of my hits are HR's.
I respect your point of view, but you're debating from a wrong prospective. You think it's about difficulty and it is not. It's about the power on hitting or maybe the new ball physics. Or maybe both.


We have a thread here.

We have a thread here.
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...nshot-hrs.html

We have another one here.
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-many-hrs.html

[El_MaYiMbE]

Re: Too many HR's?

I'm playing from midnight of launch day. You find easier to hit just because the PCI on All Star level it's the same of Veteran level in MLB 16. And for a good reason: it's the default level for online games and for DD players ( which are the big part of the newcomers and which spend a lot of money in cards and packs ). HOF difficult level it's like All Star level in MLB 16 which was my default difficult level last year. And as a matter of fact on HOF i get the same number of hits i get in MLB 16. So i'm pretty much the same hitter. But with a difference. Now 30%-40% of my hits are HR's.
I respect your point of view, but you're debating from a wrong prospective. You think it's about difficulty and it is not. It's about the power on hitting or maybe the new ball physics. Or maybe both.


We have a thread here.

We have a thread here.
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...nshot-hrs.html

We have another one here.
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-many-hrs.html

I hear ya...I am not seeing it as much.
I concede that when I do hit them out they fly too far too often...

But I have also been playing since launch at midnight and I am not seeing samething. Like I said there has to be a happy medium somewhere.

Hopefully if it truly is an issue the devs can patch it.

Has anyone reported this as a bug over at theshownation.com?

[underdog13]

Re: Too many HR's?

The fact that I am hitting so many homeruns with guys like Brett Gardner who has a 51 power against RHP shows that there is a huge problem with the amount of homeruns in this game.

In my Season with the Yankees I'm 18 games in and I already have 3 Homeruns with Gardner and that's with the power slider set at -4 from the beginning of the season. There is no way this should be happening on any difficulty setting. IT's Extremely UN-REALISTIC. I'm playing on All Star hitting. An on top of that all runs scored are from Homeruns. So its rare to score with just doubles and singles.

That means that I'm on pace to hit (Lets say I hit 3 HRs every 20 games with Gardner) 24 homeruns with Gardner.

20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
20 = 3 HRs
160games = 24 HRs and this is with the power slider set 4 clicks to the left. I can only imagine how many homeruns i would be hitting if i left the sliders at default. I hit 3 home runs in a game with Gardner on default sliders. That's what caused me to lower the power 4 clicks to the left. Its more realistic now but i still shouldn't be 2nd behind Aaron Judge (who has 4 HRS) in my season with a 51 power guy.

Ehh While I do believe there is too many solid hit balls in the game. 3 hrs in 20 games isn't a really good example of it. Not unreasonable at all.

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[underdog13]

Re: Too many HR's?

If you were between Veteran and All Star i can hear you, but it's not a good test. You're hitting better this year cause the PCI is so much bigger than MLB 16 and i don't really know how you can talk about realism when at All Star level there are batters with 37 contact rating and a PCI that cover the whole strikezone. I'm just an average zone hitter and i get 3-5 HR's every single game. Now i'm trying to play HOF on both pitching/hitting and this was my last game. I was Cleveland and as always all my runs come by HR's, Detroit score 4/5 runs in the same way.

Contract doesn't control pci level. Vision does.

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[bkrich83]

Re: Too many HR's?

I'm not seeing a ton of bombs. But I've had two games where the ball seemed to be really flying out of the park. What I noticed was that the pitchers on both sides were leaving a lot of balls in the heart of the plate. I think pitcher confidence may play in to this a bit.

My theory isn't to lower the hitting sliders but to raise the pitch consistency and possibly the pitcher control (not sure of their official names as I'm not in front of the game) a notch or two and see what that does. Ideally this would help control the number of meatball pitches thrown.