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  • HolyStroke3
    Pro
    • Sep 2011
    • 693

    #16
    Re: Pitcher Playoff Stamina Still Not Fixed

    This is my biggest issue with the whole game

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    • geisterhome
      MVP
      • Sep 2011
      • 2101

      #17
      Re: Pitcher Playoff Stamina Still Not Fixed

      Originally posted by TheRealC7R
      It's never going to be "fixed" as I remember reading on here that it's designed like that to account for "innings pitched during the season" or something to that effect.
      Really wondering how somebody came up with that and how this thought process worked out for them lol.

      btw what if some guy, due to whatever reason, didn't pitch many innings during the regular season? still reduced stamina?
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      • TheRealC7R
        Rookie
        • Apr 2015
        • 62

        #18
        Re: Pitcher Playoff Stamina Still Not Fixed

        Originally posted by geisterhome
        Really wondering how somebody came up with that and how this thought process worked out for them lol.

        btw what if some guy, due to whatever reason, didn't pitch many innings during the regular season? still reduced stamina?
        Straight from SCEA; I believe Ramone posted it. Not sure how the second scenario works out. There was a long thread on this issue sometime back, particularly because it didn't appear to affect the CPU in the same manner. Example: using a four man rotation, in game 4 of a series, my game 1 starter would have less starting stamina than that of the corresponding CPU starter (full stamina), though both had the same amount of off days--negligible difference between total innings pitched during the season.

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        • HolyStroke3
          Pro
          • Sep 2011
          • 693

          #19
          Re: Pitcher Playoff Stamina Still Not Fixed

          I'm so bummed about this. This is an incredible game but SCEA's refusal to admit this idea just doesn't work is disappointing. It so obviously is a terribly executed idea but they're sticking to it. It kills franchise in some ways.

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          • Jr.
            Playgirl Coverboy
            • Feb 2003
            • 19171

            #20
            Re: Pitcher Playoff Stamina Still Not Fixed

            Originally posted by geisterhome
            Really wondering how somebody came up with that and how this thought process worked out for them lol.

            btw what if some guy, due to whatever reason, didn't pitch many innings during the regular season? still reduced stamina?
            Their logic is hilariously bad. The original statement was that this method made it where 4 man rotations would work properly. It does the exact opposite of that, forcing you to use all 5 starters. Then I guess they came up with the explanation that the innings count during the season affects stamina later. This also doesn't make sense because, as we've seen in real life, the best pitchers can throw more often in the playoffs.

            It also ends up affecting relievers, where if you throw a guy in back to back games, he's probably unavailable for at least the next 3 days. Good luck trying to utilize your best reliever like the Indians and Cubs did with Miller and Chapman last year.

            I've just decided to jack up the stamina sliders for the playoffs. The CPU seems to do a pretty good job of managing their staff in-games to me so I don't think inflated stamina would make too much of a difference.
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            • Mike Lowe
              All Star
              • Dec 2006
              • 5286

              #21
              Re: Pitcher Playoff Stamina Still Not Fixed

              I wish the schedule of streams/reveals featured a true "simulation" stream where they show the game functioning properly in the finer details of baseball. It's so important in a baseball game, of all games, that I think it would be something folks would be interested in, but also really force the team to do a thorough QA on such items as:

              • CG/SO not being overflated on default
              • Relief pitcher usage is still off in simmed games by default--too many IP/appearance.
              • Playoff pitcher stamina
              • Guys being sucked into walls still
              • Option years not being accurate whatsoever (sort of a big deal with waivers)
              • AI scoring the bulk of its runs on HRs

              I mean, we had a stream this year that featured grass...I just hope we start to see things head in a more baseball direction too. I get it that visuals are important, but no one wants just a polished turd, if it were to ever come to that. (I don't think the game is a turd, but I worry about which way on the ladder we're heading)
              Last edited by Mike Lowe; 04-03-2017, 12:44 PM. Reason: typo

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              • WaitTilNextYear
                Go Cubs Go
                • Mar 2013
                • 16830

                #22
                Re: Pitcher Playoff Stamina Still Not Fixed

                Originally posted by Jr.
                Their logic is hilariously bad. The original statement was that this method made it where 4 man rotations would work properly. It does the exact opposite of that, forcing you to use all 5 starters. Then I guess they came up with the explanation that the innings count during the season affects stamina later. This also doesn't make sense because, as we've seen in real life, the best pitchers can throw more often in the playoffs.

                It also ends up affecting relievers, where if you throw a guy in back to back games, he's probably unavailable for at least the next 3 days. Good luck trying to utilize your best reliever like the Indians and Cubs did with Miller and Chapman last year.

                I've just decided to jack up the stamina sliders for the playoffs. The CPU seems to do a pretty good job of managing their staff in-games to me so I don't think inflated stamina would make too much of a difference.
                Yeah, and like Groundhog Day, this is where I usually post that you should feel free to edit the stamina ratings of your pitchers to get through the playoffs. Just save the original ratings for the next season.
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                • EWRMETS
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 7491

                  #23
                  Re: Pitcher Playoff Stamina Still Not Fixed

                  Makes no sense that this was not fixed.

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                  • rtwilli4
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 226

                    #24
                    Re: Pitcher Playoff Stamina Still Not Fixed

                    I was able to use a 4 man rotation all the way through the WS in '16. Only time my pitcher wasn't 100% for his turn was after 125 pitch shutout in game 1. He had to start game 6 instead of 5.


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                    • Jr.
                      Playgirl Coverboy
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 19171

                      #25
                      Re: Pitcher Playoff Stamina Still Not Fixed

                      Originally posted by rtwilli4
                      I was able to use a 4 man rotation all the way through the WS in '16. Only time my pitcher wasn't 100% for his turn was after 125 pitch shutout in game 1. He had to start game 6 instead of 5.


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                      What did you have the starter stamina slider at? And what kind of innings numbers did you see from starters during the season?

                      I think I'm just going to raise the starter stamina slider to 6 or 7 for the playoffs and hope that makes it more feasible. Maybe increase the manager hook slider too so pitchers are pulled earlier. That seems to be trending in the playoffs the last two seasons.
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                      • rtwilli4
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 226

                        #26
                        Re: Pitcher Playoff Stamina Still Not Fixed

                        Originally posted by Jr.
                        What did you have the starter stamina slider at? And what kind of innings numbers did you see from starters during the season?



                        I think I'm just going to raise the starter stamina slider to 6 or 7 for the playoffs and hope that makes it more feasible. Maybe increase the manager hook slider too so pitchers are pulled earlier. That seems to be trending in the playoffs the last two seasons.


                        I was using Armor and Swords All Star Sliders for 2016. I don't remember what it was set at.

                        I was only using the starter for 5-7 innings as I had a pretty stout bullpen, that may have had something to do with it.


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