CPU suicide squeezes in late innings

[Seltaeb9091]

Re: CPU suicide squeezes in late innings

That's still in the game? Wonderful. Haven't seen it in 17 yet, but it drove me nuts the last few years. A piece of advice I followed is that if you suspect that the CPU will cheese you with it, throw a pitch way outside the zone. And if the guy on third is running, don't throw the ball! Besides that, there has to be a reason why they still haven't done anything about it.

[EWRMETS]

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Its hard to pinpoint just the suicide squeeze but in 2016 with less than 2 outs and a runner on third, there were a 159 sacrifice bunt attempts. 6 of them resulted in a lead change and only 1 was game ending and that was done by John Lester. Of the 159, 34 were attempted in innings 7 or later.

That's surprising. I feel like I never see it but I guess I'm wrong.

[rtwilli4]

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That's surprising. I feel like I never see it but I guess I'm wrong.

You wouldn't. That averages out to 5 attempts per team per year.



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[HechticSooner]

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To really do a proper analysis of the situation, you would also need to look at how many times that a team has a runner on third in late game situations and the game within a run or two up or down. Then you can take that number and find the percentage of times used in the situation. It's higher than you think, and also why it's still in the game. Over done yes, but programming massive games like this aren't ****ing easy.

[JayD]

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I just had freakin Lucas Duda lay down a perfect suicide squeeze bunt in the bottom of the 9th against me. It is happening far too often.

[Greencollarbaseball]

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Well that was fun. Back to back guys performed perfect drag bunt suicide squeezes, for base hits, resulting in the tying and go-ahead runs in the 8th. Neither one had bunt ratings over 50.


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[coreyerb]

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This is disheartening to hear. What's the defense against it this year? Fastballs high out of the zone?

I took a year off buying The Show and this was one of the most frustrating things in franchise, probably happened 20 times and only defended it like twice.

[bcruise]

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I won't deny that the frequency is too great, but I do have a question for the guys who get beat by this way too frequently:

If the situation demands, are you willing to walk the bases loaded to set up a force at home and/or throw a pitchout on the first pitch?

I have caught the CPU out with pitchouts in a situation like this. It's not a realistic frequency - I know that. But it's also not an automatic win/lead for the CPU.

[Syce]

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I won't deny that the frequency is too great, but I do have a question for the guys who get beat by this way too frequently:

If the situation demands, are you willing to walk the bases loaded to set up a force at home and/or throw a pitchout on the first pitch?

I have caught the CPU out with pitchouts in a situation like this. It's not a realistic frequency - I know that. But it's also not an automatic win/lead for the CPU.

it happens almost every single time the CPU has a chance to win the game. you can set up your defence to try and defend it, but the animations for some reason just never work in your favor to get the runner stealing home. by the time you get the ball to home plate the guy has already sled and scored.

because it is a suicide squeeze, the runner on 3rd breaks just as the pitcher is about to deliver to home plate so by the time it gets to the bat the runner is already 3/4 of the way home. so its almost impossible to stop it, in game that is.

[ralphieboy11]

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What I've seen more often than not is the cpu will run themselves out of a good inning by using this strategy. I've seen many power hitters whiff on a bunt attempt and then have the runner from 3rd tagged out as he runs to the plate. That personally bothers me more than losing a game. I got so good at predicting when it would happen in previous editions that I had to force myself not to pitch out. What I would hope for is that the batter would foul it off so the at-bat could go on as normal. They usually would only try it once during an at-bat.

It's just a very poor strategy to have a power hitter do that when he could hit a 3 or 4 run homer instead.

And it's been in the game a long while. I remember Chipper Jones doing it to me when he was still on the Braves.

This is all going on past experience. I have not had much time to play with the game yet this year. Since people are commenting, I'm assuming the logic has remained the same.

[bcruise]

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it happens almost every single time the CPU has a chance to win the game. you can set up your defence to try and defend it, but the animations for some reason just never work in your favor to get the runner stealing home. by the time you get the ball to home plate the guy has already sled and scored.

because it is a suicide squeeze, the runner on 3rd breaks just as the pitcher is about to deliver to home plate so by the time it gets to the bat the runner is already 3/4 of the way home. so its almost impossible to stop it, in game that is.

I know all this, and I acknowledged the extreme frequency. It's video-gamey and not realistic. I'm definitely not saying there isn't a need to fix it. I'm just making a suggestion to try and help you enjoy the game more in its current state.

I'll ask again - have you ever tried a pitchout on the first pitch? If you guess it right even once, you've ended the whole threat.

[Syce]

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I know all this, and I acknowledged the extreme frequency. It's video-gamey and not realistic. I'm definitely not saying there isn't a need to fix it. I'm just making a suggestion to try and help you enjoy the game more in its current state.

I'll ask again - have you ever tried a pitchout on the first pitch? If you guess it right even once, you've ended the whole threat.

thinking about it, i dont think i have tried a pitch out. i guess i will have to attempt that when/if the next time comes around.

[garyjr33]

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Just had this happen to me in extras. So annoying.


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[L_Thibs]

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Definitely been an ongoing issue for years. Late in games, I've had it happen with guys on 2nd & 3rd with no outs....and a batter that would never consider the possibility of laying one down. Sometimes they squeeze themselves out of what could've been a bigger inning and sometimes they pull it as a stunt when you feel like you could've pitched out of the jam.

It's frustrating.....I know it happens in real baseball, but not nearly as often and not by the types of batters doing it in the game. It's already happened several times on this year's game too.

[kaptainkarl76]

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This is disheartening to hear. What's the defense against it this year? Fastballs high out of the zone?

That will result in a 475ft+ bomb in this year's Show..