MLB The Show Server Issues: Detailing the Saga So Far

[335TDC]

Re: MLB The Show Server Issues: Detailing the Saga So Far

As much as this is hurting us, they are hurting even worse.

I think I'm pretty balanced in my take on this whole fiasco, but who is "us"? Because I'm an offline Franchise guy who bought the regular edition. I highly doubt SDS would be "hurting" more than me if I bought the $100 version to play DD exclusively, bought a whole bunch more stubs, and got disconnected from lots of my games, losing HOURS of my life.

Just saying.

[335TDC]

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Why does it seem so impossible?

If the game starts making them less money, then they can't afford to pay the people hired to make the game and that could lead to what I said.

Impossible? No, but 99% unlikely to happen.

"Less" money in this case probably still means a HELLUVA lot more than they were ever making a few years ago before DD blew up. The revenue paradigm has shifted massively and irrevocably, and they'll be able to ride this out, bad press and all, while the stream keeps flowing, and almost all of us will STILL buy the game next year.

[MLB14]

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Impossible? No, but 99% unlikely to happen.

"Less" money in this case probably still means a HELLUVA lot more than they were ever making a few years ago before DD blew up. The revenue paradigm has shifted massively and irrevocably, and they'll be able to ride this out, bad press and all, while the stream keeps flowing, and almost all of us will STILL buy the game next year.

Yea, I just noticed that when DD became popular, their sales shot up from that, which is good. I don't want the game to fail. I want them to continue developing it.

I'm not gonna pretend like I understand how a game company operates it's finances. I'm just sayin' that if they fall below what they projected to make.. It's not good for them.

It doesn't matter how much they make in a year. If they developed the game with a projection of 10 million in mind but only pulled in 6 million, that's probably gonna hurt 'em.

The whole idea of them having in-game purchases now is sayin' they need more money to keep developing the game, right?

[mikeq672]

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Pretty crazy, I haven't had a single game against the CPU get dropped or not count. Including play CPU and Conquest.


Don't take that as me saying I don't believe you or whatever, just posting my personal experience with it.
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Yeah its extremely frustrating, my buddy doesnt experience half the issues I do either.

[335TDC]

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I'm just sayin' that if they fall below what they projected to make.. It's not good for them.

It doesn't matter how much they make in a year. If they developed the game with a projection of 10 million in mind but only pulled in 6 million, that's probably gonna hurt 'em.

The whole idea of them having in-game purchases now is sayin' they need more money to keep developing the game, right?

That's a different argument -- falling short of projections vs. losing money. And sure, if they fall short of projections, it's not good, but I don't know about "hurting" them. This is a hiccup, and people who play DD and collect cards will continue to, especially now that they've massively expanded "missions" to last months and months. I would predict that they'll make MORE money than they did last year, by a good margin. Really smart of them.

No, I don't think that's what they're saying at all. I don't think any developer or any intelligent gamer thinks that microstransactions exist to keep an already profitable game afloat. It's just pure, red-blooded capitalism.

Not trying to be argumentative, but the general idea that MLBTS is "in trouble," that they'll take a huge financial hit because of this, and that SDS will pay a price for it is just too...

...dramatic?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Last year was their highest selling effort to date. It would be silly to think they'd stop making the game because of a month of bad servers and bad publicity.

[mikeq672]

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Another play vs cpu game lost in the queue. This game is a joke. My stats count from the games for all the players, but the game is lost and nothing counts for the missions. This will be the last time I give these people a penny for this game.

[MLB14]

Re: MLB The Show Server Issues: Detailing the Saga So Far

Last year was their highest selling effort to date. It would be silly to think they'd stop making the game because of a month of bad servers and bad publicity.

It's stuff like this though:

Another play vs cpu game lost in the queue. This game is a joke. My stats count from the games for all the players, but the game is lost and nothing counts for the missions. This will be the last time I give these people a penny for this game.

I've just never seen people say things along those lines for past versions of the game.

There's a lot of people that share his view of this situation because there's a lot of people that bought the game to strictly play online.

[seasprite]

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Another play vs cpu game lost in the queue. This game is a joke. My stats count from the games for all the players, but the game is lost and nothing counts for the missions. This will be the last time I give these people a penny for this game.

I played 8 today between 9 am and 2om today and every single one counted. I don't understand how we could be having such different results. Could you be having an issue on your end?
I gather that I have been extremely lucky.... Knock on wood
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[mikeq672]

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I played 8 today between 9 am and 2om today and every single one counted. I don't understand how we could be having such different results. Could you be having an issue on your end?
I gather that I have been extremely lucky.... Knock on wood
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I can play conquest and most BR games and get them to count with some regularity, anything 9 innings though just wont process for me.

Now Im getting all kinds of server errors

[thekidisback]

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I just finished a vs CPU game. My rewards came up and I got them and then I proceeded to go back to the DD menu and got the server error. I then saw all my team cards blank with a 0 in the left hand corner. I checked my game history and saw that it counted the game and checked my missions and saw that it counted the double I got for the Griffey Sr mission. I went to another screen and got message again and so I closed the app and turned off my PS4 and am now going to play Breath of the Wild.

[djep]

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I think I'm pretty balanced in my take on this whole fiasco, but who is "us"? Because I'm an offline Franchise guy who bought the regular edition. I highly doubt SDS would be "hurting" more than me if I bought the $100 version to play DD exclusively, bought a whole bunch more stubs, and got disconnected from lots of my games, losing HOURS of my life.

Just saying.

I get it...dropping 100 bucks on a broken game would hurt but it's still a sunk cost.

Gaming as a product vs gaming as a service. It used to be so easy...just package it up, ship it out, release a patch or two as needed and you're done. Once consumer X has purchased the game your only source of revenue is to convince consumer Y to purchase.

Now it's more of a hybrid. They expect consumer X to keep pouring money into the game. Every minute that their servers are down they are losing money. Every day some higher up is asking the team, "When are the servers going to be up? When can we start making money again?" That's why I don't buy it when people say that they're just waiting for interest to wane rather than aggressively look for solutions to these server issues.




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[Twinkie12]

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Sounds like there is problems again tonight. I get a "Server Error Encountered" when entering DD. It lets me navigate within the mode, but I have a blank team and blank stats. Judging by twitter pics, a lot of people are having the same issue. Not good.

[335TDC]

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I get it...dropping 100 bucks on a broken game would hurt but it's still a sunk cost.

Gaming as a product vs gaming as a service. It used to be so easy...just package it up, ship it out, release a patch or two as needed and you're done. Once consumer X has purchased the game your only source of revenue is to convince consumer Y to purchase.

Now it's more of a hybrid. They expect consumer X to keep pouring money into the game. Every minute that their servers are down they are losing money. Every day some higher up is asking the team, "When are the servers going to be up? When can we start making money again?" That's why I don't buy it when people say that they're just waiting for interest to wane rather than aggressively look for solutions to these server issues.


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I would think that there's not THAT much pressure or hysteria from the higher-ups because these "card" modes (MUT, DD, etc.) are season-long online events. It's unfortunate, and will stymie cash flow a little bit for a week or two, but that's all. Things will be back to normal very soon, and they'll make more money from the mode this year than they did last year.

DD looks cool and the missions are really well thought out, and it all reminds me a little bit of the Topps sticker books from the early 80's that I loved (damn you, Twins Gary Gaetti! -- only one that eluded me one year), but I won't buy in to it.

[jeffy777]

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Gaming as a product vs gaming as a service. It used to be so easy...just package it up, ship it out, release a patch or two as needed and you're done. Once consumer X has purchased the game your only source of revenue is to convince consumer Y to purchase.

And before the advent of internet connectivity, there were no downloadable patches, so developers actually had to do extensive quality assurance and in-house beta testing to ensure the product was of highest quality at release. What a concept!

Now the paying customers are the QA/testers.

This is why I REALLY wish SDS would at least do a closed beta for pre-orders. Let's get the ball rolling sooner and test the servers in advance, as well as gameplay as a whole. It would make a huge difference.