MLB The Show Server Issues: Detailing the Saga So Far

[Millennium]

Re: MLB The Show Server Issues: Detailing the Saga So Far

Sorry if you see these as accusations -- I probably could have worded things better on a few posts, but I've been complimentary to OS on the whole. For example, earlier in this thread I wrote:

"OS does a good job overall of moderating comments, but it's certainly conservative and errs on the side of OVERprotecting dev teams (which is the deal you make with the devil if you want them on your site). I am quite pleased with this write-up -- it's very un-OS-like to take a semi-hard stance like it does. Kudos."

I think that's fair: it's written in a mature way, and while it implies some criticism of OS, it's not "bashing" anybody . The "deal with the devil" isn't meant literally, of course, but it's just a fact that if you want devs to come here and interact then certainly modding becomes "stricter" or "more conservative" or whatever we label it. Those relationships are sensitive; I get that, and that's all I'm trying to convey. So when the site backs up member outrage on a dev team that handed out a non-apology and has been silent ever since, it's satisfying (at least to me).

That's just the thing - we don't exactly have relationships. Devs come here of their own free will. If they didn't, we'd still operate and succeed as we did prior to their interaction. Dev interaction here is for the good of gaming, not for the good of this site.

[335TDC]

Re: MLB The Show Server Issues: Detailing the Saga So Far

That's just the thing - we don't exactly have relationships. Devs come here of their own free will. If they didn't, we'd still operate and succeed as we did prior to their interaction. Dev interaction here is for the good of gaming, not for the good of this site.

PM sent so as to not hijack thread. Thanks for responding.

[Karle]

First I am a big fan of the game and appreciate that SDS worked hard to make so many improvements in the game even though there is really no competitive pressure to do so. MLB 17 The Show is truly the only game in town for baseball. Having begun playing baseball games on the PC with Tony Larussa Baseball it is truly amazing how far the game has progressed.

I also must admit that I do not play games on-line and so have not suffered as others have done with the server issues. Because of travelling I could not even install the game until one week after the launch date. I am sure that the problems of the servers have caused a lot of frustration among users especially since all the promotion before the launch built up a greatly enhanced anticipation of the release of the game. Having seen in promotions how great the game can be they are disappointed now that they are not able to play with regularity the game as they expected. Thus, I have empathy for how they feel. That being said, I see here really two issues:

The first issue is with the servers. This was a problem also last year so it cannot be a complete surprise. Perhaps it is not possible to fully test the system until it is under the full load after launch. Perhaps some of the enhancements are contributing to the issues. We assume that SDS is working hard to fix these problems as quickly as possible. This is an issue which to some extent is temporarily beyond the control of SDS.

The second is with communication. During the lead up to the launch we heard often from the developers about all the enhancements and improvements. However, after the launch when the server problems occured we heard very little. This lack of information helps feed the frustration by giving an impression that perhaps SDS is not puruing every effort to solve the problem as quickly as possible. This silence can even be misread by some as indicating a type of arrogance. I believe frank and honest communications from the developers about what the problems are, what they are doing to fix it and when they expect the problems to be resolved would go a long way to reducing the frustration among many of the users who are suffering from the server issues.

[N51_rob]

I like the game, I like the guys at SDS that I have interacted with, but this is two years in a row of major server issues on release....fool me once...As a consumer its unacceptable. On hardcore sites like this one SDS get a pass, because for the most part their gameplay has been stellar for a while. If a certain football game had issues like this in back to back releases the forums would burn. SDS needs to do a much better job communicating, but doing their due diligence to prevent this from happening again. Two years in a row has moved this game from a Day 1 to a "wait for the kinks to be worked out" purchase.

[Artman22]

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I like the game, I like the guys at SDS that I have interacted with, but this is two years in a row of major server issues on release....fool me once...As a consumer its unacceptable. On hardcore sites like this one SDS get a pass, because for the most part their gameplay has been stellar for a while. If a certain football game had issues like this in back to back releases the forums would burn. SDS needs to do a much better job communicating, but doing their due diligence to prevent this from happening again. Two years in a row has moved this game from a Day 1 to a "wait for the kinks to be worked out" purchase.

I agree 100% No way I'm buying this game next year on release date. I love this game but I'm so disappointed that it still has server issues and games aren't saving. Like you said this game usually gets a pass on this site but if this was madden they'd burn it to death. I'm in a league and we haven't been able to start because it's so unreliable online. The Devs are also very vocal before the game releases but now are no where to be found.

[mets718]

Re: MLB The Show Server Issues: Detailing the Saga So Far

For a company that is built mainly around revenue from DD this is sad.

DD is a online game in every way and to not have servers built to maintain the level of daily users is unacceptable.

Small studio or not, to not invest time in the fundamentals of online play is inexcusable.

[mikeq672]

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The deafening silence from Ramone, and all their various twitters and so on is by far the must frustrating thing. The game is literally unplayable right now because 95% of games dont count but they havent even apologized or said they are working on it. Horrible PR.

[striker3771]

Re: MLB The Show Server Issues: Detailing the Saga So Far

I like the game, I like the guys at SDS that I have interacted with, but this is two years in a row of major server issues on release....fool me once...As a consumer its unacceptable. On hardcore sites like this one SDS get a pass, because for the most part their gameplay has been stellar for a while. If a certain football game had issues like this in back to back releases the forums would burn. SDS needs to do a much better job communicating, but doing their due diligence to prevent this from happening again. Two years in a row has moved this game from a Day 1 to a "wait for the kinks to be worked out" purchase.

Totally agree. This is no longer a yearly purchase from me after this mess. I only play this game online. There is no reason for me to buy this game every year if they don't invest in fixing their servers.

[thekidisback]

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I'm still puzzled as to why there are no real coaches or managers in DD. It's jarring to see generic versions of the real guys when the real mangers and coaches are in franchise. I almost don't want to play DD games because of this. What's the reason?

The server issues have to be apart of a bigger issue they aren't telling us about. It's been going on for too long. A lot of cards this year are behind a paywall but the server issues make it to where you can't get those cards even if you pay extra for PSN+. It's almost like a bad joke they are playing on us.

[848]

Re: MLB The Show Server Issues: Detailing the Saga So Far

Servers appear to be down again....

[seasprite]

Re: MLB The Show Server Issues: Detailing the Saga So Far

I'm still puzzled as to why their are no real coaches or managers in DD. It's jarring to see generic versions of the real guys when the real mangers and coaches are in franchise. I almost don't want to play DD games because of this. What's the reason?

The server issues have to be apart of a bigger issue they aren't telling us about. It's been going on for too long. A lot of cards this year are behind a paywall but the server issues make it to where you can't get those cards even if you pay extra for PSN+. It's almost like a bad joke they are playing on us.

What cards are behind a paywall? Honestly asking

[ODogg]

I love this game and think it's one of the best, if not possibly THE best sports game, in a long time. Will not only be buying it next year but I plan to buy the $99 version to get the extra stubs.

[mikeq672]

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I love this game and think it's one of the best, if not possibly THE best sports game, in a long time. Will not only be buying it next year but I plan to buy the $99 version to get the extra stubs.

The game doesnt work.

[seasprite]

Re: MLB The Show Server Issues: Detailing the Saga So Far

The game doesnt work.

The game does indeed work................the online portion is a mess right now, but to say the game doesn't work is hyperbole.

[mikeq672]

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The game does indeed work................the online portion is a mess right now, but to say the game doesn't work is hyperbole.

By a mess do you mean its broken and unplayable? Oh ok...

Half the game is completely broken and unplayable. Its the half of the game that they market and promote for months leading up to release. Its the half of the game where all preorders are focused on. Its the half of the game that they sell higher priced editions for. Its the half of the game that they actually make money on.

So to say the game isnt broken is hyperbole.