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  • RC3
    Rookie
    • Sep 2010
    • 52

    #16
    Re: Zone vs Directional

    Originally posted by ROTTEN
    If you dont like directional try pure analog. The pci actually moves when using pure analog and its far less random. Dont center swing when using zone just practice and react to each pitch. It takes a while, but once you get used to it ............. ownage.
    Never tried pure analog... the reason I center swing isn't because of lack of ability but in the past using zone and moving the stick I would always lead the league in average by like 50 points or so. Batting over .300. So I would do it to keep the stats more realistic... only smack balls around the middle that I time well.

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    • RC3
      Rookie
      • Sep 2010
      • 52

      #17
      Re: Zone vs Directional

      Originally posted by TheWarmWind
      I REALLY think you should try sliders before switching to center swinging on zone. I know you think it's cheating but think about it: they have only a month or two to do bug testing and balancing on multiple interfaces. Giving the users sliders can lead to cheating, but in reality it's to help balance the game.

      Here's what I suggest: Go into batting practice with a batter and a pitcher you are familiar with. Keep hopping in and out using the same two and adjusting the sliders until the results feel good to you (ie what you would expect in that matchup). This is a good place to start. Make sure to adjust your sliders in the mode you are using (sliders can be mode dependent) to match the sliders you made from batting pratice, then make small adjustments to any issues you see with a wider data pool.

      I know it takes more initial effort, but trust me when I say that the results will be worth it.
      Why do you think directional is much better than Zone? I will try the batting practice thing. Use like Trout and a pitcher in the division (one I've seen alot?) you're saying and adjust after like 20 ABs or something?

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      • agentlaw13
        Pro
        • Feb 2009
        • 557

        #18
        Re: Zone vs Directional

        Look into some of the sliders posted here and up your difficulty. I'm playing with Mike Lowe's sliders on HOF w/zone and no PCI. It's a challenge but I don't have everyone of my guys batting .300. I have some success with some and with others I struggle. It's fun to go through slumps and try to make the necessary adjustments to get back on track. I always played on All Star but I'm loving the challenge HOF brings. And I believe a good slider set will give even more difficulty if needed.


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        • COMMISSIONERHBK9
          MVP
          • Dec 2003
          • 4564

          #19
          Re: Zone vs Directional

          people that use zone do you guys move the left analog stick at all
          Last edited by COMMISSIONERHBK9; 04-25-2017, 09:28 AM.
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          • TheWarmWind
            MVP
            • Apr 2015
            • 2620

            #20
            Re: Zone vs Directional

            Originally posted by RC3
            Why do you think directional is much better than Zone? I will try the batting practice thing. Use like Trout and a pitcher in the division (one I've seen alot?) you're saying and adjust after like 20 ABs or something?
            I don't think any interface is superior, I think they all are good, it just depends on the individual player. Seeing that you were just going to center swing, I have a feeling that zone really isn't the interface for you. Remember, that's what I came from, and trust me I am enjoying directional FAR more than center swinging, I just had to work the details out.

            And yeah, try to go for a pitcher that you see a lot and has relatively standard stuff and mid to low ratings. Doesn't have to be a borderline minors guy I'm just saying don't pick Kershaw.

            If you're using Trout a lot you probably have an expectation on how he should perform, especially on certain pitches in certain locations. Keep adjusting the sliders until you're expectation and you're results match, or are at least close.

            Also remember to choose your swing type. Each has a benefit and a cost but the benefit almost always outweighs the cost. I mention this just because there are a lot of people who don't pick a direction in directional hitting, and that alone can cause a lot of problems. I've written a lot about it in the teach me/strategies thread but at this point I think I might just make a new thread teaching all I've learned about directional. People seem to want info on it.

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            • agentlaw13
              Pro
              • Feb 2009
              • 557

              #21
              Re: Zone vs Directional

              Originally posted by COMMISSIONERHBK9
              people that use zone do you guys the left analog stick at all


              Some guys leave the pci in the middle and wait for a pitch. I move the pci with the left stick on any pitches I attempt to swing at. I think the combination of swing placement, timing, and the batter's attributes make zone the more realistic hitting option IMO.


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              • RC3
                Rookie
                • Sep 2010
                • 52

                #22
                Re: Zone vs Directional

                Originally posted by COMMISSIONERHBK9
                people that use zone do you guys move the left analog stick at all
                Played 5 games last night back to zone and it was wonderful. I don't use the left stick unless I have a power hitter or up in the count and then I slightly leave it up to hit the high fastball in the stands. If it's low, even a strike I just take the pitch. Usually with one strike I just center it and leave it.

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                • SolidSnake07
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 546

                  #23
                  Re: Zone vs Directional

                  Originally posted by COMMISSIONERHBK9
                  people that use zone do you guys move the left analog stick at all
                  Nope. On Vet and all-star the classic pci is big enough to cover enough of the plate.

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                  • wcu25rs
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 250

                    #24
                    Re: Zone vs Directional

                    Originally posted by SolidSnake07
                    Nope. On Vet and all-star the classic pci is big enough to cover enough of the plate.

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                    this....i dont touch it at all. If you're patient enough you wont need to.

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                    • RogueHominid
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 10900

                      #25
                      Re: Zone vs Directional

                      I play on directional with a clean screen, but I turned swing info on and it looks like directional just leaves the PCI in the center of the screen anyway. I played a couple of games and never saw the PCI for my batter move away from the center of the zone while hitting on directional.

                      Am I missing some nuance here? I thought on directional the PCI might get placed in different spots in the zone depending on the hitter's vision and status as a fastball or breaking ball hitter.

                      But it looks like directional is just zone with the PCI left in the center. Am I correct in that?

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                      • TheWarmWind
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 2620

                        #26
                        Re: Zone vs Directional

                        Originally posted by Trojan Man
                        I play on directional with a clean screen, but I turned swing info on and it looks like directional just leaves the PCI in the center of the screen anyway. I played a couple of games and never saw the PCI for my batter move away from the center of the zone while hitting on directional.

                        Am I missing some nuance here? I thought on directional the PCI might get placed in different spots in the zone depending on the hitter's vision and status as a fastball or breaking ball hitter.

                        But it looks like directional is just zone with the PCI left in the center. Am I correct in that?
                        No, the PCI does move, it's just invisible to the player. The PCI looking thing you see in the swing info page is just to give the hitter a general idea of the possible places the batter can get effective hits in. It's not the actual PCI.

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