9-3 putout?

**Mitchrapp** · 04-26-2017, 04:02 AM

Re: 9-3 putout?

Can't say I have.. I did have a 9-6 force-out today in rtts. Guy on 1st, base hit to RF or what should have been a base hit - and threw to 2nd to get the lead runner.

**Greencollarbaseball** · 04-26-2017, 04:06 AM

9-3 putout?

I've done it once. It was a big problem in 15, they changed it in 16 so that your first baseman didn't cover first on everything hit to the right side, which is the same in 17. It only pops up on a ball in to the 3.5 hole that the CPU thinks you second baseman has a play on. The play I was able to make was on a ball that was hammered by Elvis Andrus (74spd). To be honest I threw it to first just because it was hit so hard, I never thought I'd get him out.

I'm wondering if humanityAI was at play. i.e. He wasn't running hard because he figured it was a clear single.

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**SolidSnake07** · 04-26-2017, 05:29 AM

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I got one a few days ago and it preserved a no-no. Then I gave up a single two at bats later.

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**nyyanksrdbest** · 04-26-2017, 12:01 PM

Re: 9-3 putout?

Originally posted by Mitchrapp

Can't say I have.. I did have a 9-6 force-out today in rtts. Guy on 1st, base hit to RF or what should have been a base hit - and threw to 2nd to get the lead runner.

Man I cannot tell you how many times that happened in MLB 16 The Show. Anytime the ball was hit towards the 2B sound, the base runner on first always paused briefly to make sure the ball wouldn't hit him. Many times I hit the ball very hard to RF, and due to the base runner pausing for a brief period, it made a 9-6 putout happen quite a bit.

**XtremeDunkz** · 04-26-2017, 12:13 PM

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I got one against the pitcher last night. A line drive that dropped right in front of the RF and a pitcher that had 1 speed.

**Brandwin** · 04-26-2017, 12:57 PM

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Nope, but I have tried. Thought I might have a chance a few times, but first baseman isn't standing on the bag anytime I try.

**Blzer** · 04-26-2017, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by Brandwin

Nope, but I have tried. Thought I might have a chance a few times, but first baseman isn't standing on the bag anytime I try.

It's things like this that make me say: "If this is a temporary solution, fine... but if you have to cheat us to prevent something like this from happening, then there are bigger issues at play that need to be addressed." It's along the same lines that plagues this game from getting XBH down the lines.

I hope they resolve what that is someday. I can partly name some of them, but I don't have solutions in programming language to address them directly.

**coach422001** · 04-26-2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by Blzer

It's things like this that make me say: "If this is a temporary solution, fine... but if you have to cheat us to prevent something like this from happening, then there are bigger issues at play that need to be addressed." It's along the same lines that plagues this game from getting XBH down the lines.

I hope they resolve what that is someday. I can partly name some of them, but I don't have solutions in programming language to address them directly.

What is the cheat in this case? 9-3 is an exceedingly rare event in real life. I'd be very disappointed if it were a routine event in the game. First basemen are not taught to, in general, to cover first base on a ball hit to the outfield. It sounds like some have been able to get this play completed under some circumstances but if it were to be routine or even more frequent than that I would think it would start to ruin the experience.

**Brandwin** · 04-26-2017, 01:17 PM

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Yeah. I am glad I can't do this. Used to be an issue to be able to pull this off more times than one should.

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**Blzer** · 04-26-2017, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by coach422001

What is the cheat in this case? 9-3 is an exceedingly rare event in real life. I'd be very disappointed if it were a routine event in the game. First basemen are not taught to, in general, to cover first base on a ball hit to the outfield. It sounds like some have been able to get this play completed under some circumstances but if it were to be routine or even more frequent than that I would think it would start to ruin the experience.

You missed what I meant. My point is that the reason right fielders don't throw to first in real life is because there is not enough time for that play.

In this game, there is. In some part, it's a combination of the RF positioned too close in, too close to the line, has the ability to sprint in at fast liners hit at them, and the grass friction may be too far off (ball travels too quickly on it). Those kinds of things would have to be addressed for it to not be an issue.

I don't want more throw-outs to first base. I just don't want there to be a cheat as if to say that the overarching problem is now "solved."

**thesamurair** · 04-26-2017, 03:49 PM

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I have done this a few times in ranked season games.

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**rh123** · 04-26-2017, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by Blzer

You missed what I meant. My point is that the reason right fielders don't throw to first in real life is because there is not enough time for that play.

In this game, there is. In some part, it's a combination of the RF positioned too close in, too close to the line, has the ability to sprint in at fast liners hit at them, and the grass friction may be too far off (ball travels too quickly on it). Those kinds of things would have to be addressed for it to not be an issue.

I don't want more throw-outs to first base. I just don't want there to be a cheat as if to say that the overarching problem is now "solved."

The ball moving too fast on the grass is the problem (along with the RF being too close, but that is slight compared to ball speed). The ball never slows down it maintains the same speed from start to finish which is impossible. It keeps runners from scoring from second or going first to third. Its pretty maddening and at this point in time with the technology we have, unacceptable.

**Bunselpower32** · 04-26-2017, 05:50 PM

Re: 9-3 putout?

Originally posted by Blzer

You missed what I meant. My point is that the reason right fielders don't throw to first in real life is because there is not enough time for that play.

In this game, there is. In some part, it's a combination of the RF positioned too close in, too close to the line, has the ability to sprint in at fast liners hit at them, and the grass friction may be too far off (ball travels too quickly on it). Those kinds of things would have to be addressed for it to not be an issue.

I don't want more throw-outs to first base. I just don't want there to be a cheat as if to say that the overarching problem is now "solved."

Don't treat the symptoms, treat the disease. Well said.

**Dunk31** · 04-26-2017, 06:23 PM

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Have done it and had it done to me. The only way for it to work is your second baseman has to make a play on the ball, often diving for the 1B to cover the bag. In this case you can throw to the first base bag with the 1B covering the bag.

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