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  • laronaickwar
    Rookie
    • Aug 2013
    • 7

    #1

    Retiring early

    Is there anyway to stop this?? I'm 2 years into a franchise and players are retiring at 33 and 34 years old. What?!?!
  • tabarnes19_SDS
    Game Designer
    • Feb 2003
    • 3084

    #2
    Re: Retiring early

    It is actually realistic. http://www.thebaseballcube.com/today/tranx/retired.asp

    There are the outliers but many players retire much younger than you think.

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    • Pigpen44
      Rookie
      • May 2009
      • 78

      #3
      Re: Retiring early

      I'm in a Cardinals carryover franchise and just had Molina and Peralta retire at 35. It happens but kinda sucks especially knowing in real life that Molina just signed an extension.

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      • BA2929
        The Designated Hitter
        • Jul 2008
        • 3342

        #4
        Re: Retiring early

        Originally posted by tabarnes19
        It is actually realistic. http://www.thebaseballcube.com/today/tranx/retired.asp

        There are the outliers but many players retire much younger than you think
        It's "sort of" realistic. The only players that retire at 33 or 34 (or younger) are fringe MLB players and guys who wash out of the minors. Click on that 'MLB Only' button on that link and you'll see that most players who were actually decent MLB players are 36+ when they retire. Guys like Yadi Molina definitely shouldn't retire at 35.

        Anyone who is a solid MLB regular or role player doesn't retire that young unless it's due to injury. They usually can hang on until they're 36-38 or so. Even Chone Figgins lasted until he was 38 in baseball and he hasn't been relevant since he was 32.

        So I'd ask TC to check to see WHO is retiring at 33/34. If it's a bunch of guys who are still contributing on the field like Yadi or Alex Gordon then that's an issue. If it's guys like Jered Weaver or Craig Gentry then it's not a problem.
        "Baseball is the coolest sport because, at any moment, the catcher can stop the game and go tell the pitcher a secret" - Rob Fee

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        • Ranger Fan
          Rookie
          • Dec 2005
          • 478

          #5
          Re: Retiring early

          Originally posted by BA2929
          It's "sort of" realistic. The only players that retire at 33 or 34 (or younger) are fringe MLB players and guys who wash out of the minors. Click on that 'MLB Only' button on that link and you'll see that most players who were actually decent MLB players are 36+ when they retire. Guys like Yadi Molina definitely shouldn't retire at 35.

          Anyone who is a solid MLB regular or role player doesn't retire that young unless it's due to injury. They usually can hang on until they're 36-38 or so. Even Chone Figgins lasted until he was 38 in baseball and he hasn't been relevant since he was 32.

          So I'd ask TC to check to see WHO is retiring at 33/34. If it's a bunch of guys who are still contributing on the field like Yadi or Alex Gordon then that's an issue. If it's guys like Jered Weaver or Craig Gentry then it's not a problem.
          I don't have a problem with retirements, my issue is with regression with older players. I have Adrian Beltre hitting 305 with 10 hrs and 56 RBI's. This is 92 games into the season and he is 37 years old. He started with a 92 rating and know is down to a 79. My question is Why? If he was bad sure regress, but obviously he isn't regressing. My rule of thumb is never sighn a free agent or lock someone up to a contract after his 36th birthday, it's a waste of money because with the system the way it is now they will be down to average regardless of on the field production

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          • rtwilli4
            Banned
            • Nov 2016
            • 226

            #6
            Re: Retiring early

            You can try to extend by editing contracts before starting your franchise.

            I simmed multiple franchises with the Braves and Dickey and Colon retired every time. Then I changed their contracts to 2 years each and neither retired after 2017.

            It is a problem tho. 34-35 year olds who have been every day MLBers since their 20s are retiring. If you want to find out who, just start a franchise and sim a few seasons. End of 2018 season list was incredibly unrealistic.


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            • consecutive27
              Rookie
              • Apr 2016
              • 119

              #7
              Re: Retiring early

              It sounds like regression and retirements are exactly the same as last year. Bearable, and sometimes okay, but kind of annoying at times. I have not tried this, but I think it would work: right before the retirements are announced, lower a player's age. Let's say you are a few seasons into franchise mode and a few future hall of famers are closing in on 3,000 hits, they are still playing well and you want them to stick around for a few more seasons, which is pretty realistic actually. Just lower their ages to 18 right after the season ends, then put them back to normal later. I bet it would work. I am going to try this in mlb 16 next time I play just for fun. I don't have this years game.

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              • UberA13c
                Rookie
                • Mar 2008
                • 98

                #8
                Re: Retiring early

                Originally posted by consecutive27
                It sounds like regression and retirements are exactly the same as last year. Bearable, and sometimes okay, but kind of annoying at times. I have not tried this, but I think it would work: right before the retirements are announced, lower a player's age. Let's say you are a few seasons into franchise mode and a few future hall of famers are closing in on 3,000 hits, they are still playing well and you want them to stick around for a few more seasons, which is pretty realistic actually. Just lower their ages to 18 right after the season ends, then put them back to normal later. I bet it would work. I am going to try this in mlb 16 next time I play just for fun. I don't have this years game.
                Just necro'd this thread, but did you find this to work?

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                • TheWarmWind
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 2620

                  #9
                  Re: Retiring early

                  Is it possible to delete players? If it is then I have a solution. The engine forces retirements because there are a limited number of players that are allowed to exist in the league. So for every new player drafted and signed, an existing player has to retire. If you can go around deleting players from the league to make room, you'd probably have more realistic retirements.

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                  • SplashHit
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 20

                    #10
                    Re: Retiring early

                    I "delete" players by scrolling through the minors looking for players over 30 who aren't performing well, and thus will probably never make it to the majors. I then edit all their attributes to 0 so that they have an overall of 1 and F potential. Then I release them and they almost always retire at the end of the year. This usually works pretty well. (I use 30-Team Control by the way)

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                    • oilersfan99
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 315

                      #11
                      Re: Retiring early

                      Originally posted by BA2929
                      It's "sort of" realistic. The only players that retire at 33 or 34 (or younger) are fringe MLB players and guys who wash out of the minors. Click on that 'MLB Only' button on that link and you'll see that most players who were actually decent MLB players are 36+ when they retire. Guys like Yadi Molina definitely shouldn't retire at 35.

                      Anyone who is a solid MLB regular or role player doesn't retire that young unless it's due to injury. They usually can hang on until they're 36-38 or so. Even Chone Figgins lasted until he was 38 in baseball and he hasn't been relevant since he was 32.

                      So I'd ask TC to check to see WHO is retiring at 33/34. If it's a bunch of guys who are still contributing on the field like Yadi or Alex Gordon then that's an issue. If it's guys like Jered Weaver or Craig Gentry then it's not a problem.
                      The average age on those who retired on that list is 34.15 for the MLB only guys. It looks like more because there are players that retire at 40 but the average will always be much lower. Star players shouldnt retire that early I dont think but Im sure that they just use an average age of retirement and use that for the bulk of the game. I dont play franchise mode so really I cant comment to it too much but the "Good" players should be playing longer imo

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                      • tapout8302
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 187

                        #12
                        Re: Retiring early

                        The players who retire are decided at the draft. I usually go through the league and release players before the draft who I want to retire. after the draft I'll make a new file and sim to the end of the season to make sure nothing extremely crazy happens. If a lot of guys retired that shouldn't, I will go back before the draft and release more players or just sim through the draft again and it will be the new list of players retiring. If you release players before the draft it has to be 2-3 days before the draft so they clear waivers before the draft
                        Last edited by tapout8302; 07-19-2017, 02:38 PM.

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