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  • Gagnon39
    Windy City Sports Fan
    • Mar 2003
    • 8544

    #1

    A definite fix for high HR numbers.

    A little bit long but worth thinking about if you've been looking for realistic home run totals (for your team) this year.

    I, like many this year, have been experiencing much higher home run totals than ever in The Show. And while I'm sure there's some that may still argue that there's no "issue," anyone that's played the series for many years (since MLB 08) like myself, it's quite evident that power is up probably due to the new ball physics in this year's game.

    There's been tons of talk about slider changes to make or difficulty levels to play on to try and get home run totals to a more realistic level. However, none of those have worked for me and I'm assuming the same may be true for many others.

    I've given much thought on how to "fix," it and I believe that the ultimate solution (for franchise players) might be a fairly easy one.

    I play as the Cubs and my hitters are just ridiculous. Schwarber is on pace for 65+ home runs and Rizzo's on pace for over 55. And there seems to be one common theme. Player ratings. Obviously guy with higher power should and will hit more home runs. But I think that if the power ratings were toned down, the numbers would be where they should be.

    Here are a few of my players power ratings (L/R)

    Kris Bryant (86/86)
    Anthony Rizzo (68/88)
    Schwarber (78/93)

    If I were to lower these numbers by, say 10. I believe it would make a HUGE difference. But I'm concerned about doing it for a few reasons and hopefully some of you guys have some insight as to whethe the concerns are legitimate.

    First: I don't wan't that changes to affect future progression. Or morale. This process would require some maintenance as we would have to periodically check to make sure power numbers don't exceed whatever the established ceiling is.

    Secondly: There would need to be some kind of system in place as opposed to arbitrarily dropping power ratings. Should it be 10 points for everyone? Against both lefties and eighties? There's a number of things to consider. And that's what I'm hoping to get some help with.

    Lastly: I don't really want to drop the overall rating of my players so for every point in power taken away, I feel it would be acceptable to put it back somewhere else in order to maintain their real rating.


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  • bkrich83
    Has Been
    • Jul 2002
    • 71582

    #2
    Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

    I made 3 slider changes and my problems with this went away
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    • Gagnon39
      Windy City Sports Fan
      • Mar 2003
      • 8544

      #3
      Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

      Originally posted by bkrich83
      I made 3 slider changes and my problems with this went away


      I've tried every slider combination known to man. It can't be fixed with sliders without causing problems somewhere else. But I'll bite. What changes did you make?


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      • Noiziv
        Rookie
        • Jul 2016
        • 305

        #4
        Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

        Originally posted by Gagnon39
        I've tried every slider combination known to man. It can't be fixed with sliders without causing problems somewhere else. But I'll bite. What changes did you make?


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        Do you use Directional or Zone?


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        • bkrich83
          Has Been
          • Jul 2002
          • 71582

          #5
          Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

          Originally posted by Gagnon39
          I've tried every slider combination known to man. It can't be fixed with sliders without causing problems somewhere else. But I'll bite. What changes did you make?


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          I posted it a bunch in the thread on this subject.

          Basically I moved wind down (which I believe to be the biggest culprit)

          Raised Pitch Accuracy and Pitch Consistency +1

          Changed the game for me.
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          • Gagnon39
            Windy City Sports Fan
            • Mar 2003
            • 8544

            #6
            Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

            Originally posted by Noiziv
            Do you use Directional or Zone?


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            I've used both, but primarily use Zone. I have the same issue with either. I'm convinced power ratings need to simply be lowered.


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            • Noiziv
              Rookie
              • Jul 2016
              • 305

              #7
              Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

              I've recently been using a slider set derived off of FenwayMac's set, but with Directional. I've had some of the most realistic and extremely variated games that I've ever had. When I get on tomorrow, I'll post what I got and you could see what you think of them.


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              • TomahawkChopYaHead
                Rookie
                • Apr 2017
                • 81

                #8
                Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

                I play with A&S's sliders and have not had this issue.

                The only time I had issues with too many HRs was before I messed with the sliders and was playing on default.

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                • Gagnon39
                  Windy City Sports Fan
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 8544

                  #9
                  Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

                  Originally posted by TomahawkChopYaHead
                  I play with A&S's sliders and have not had this issue.



                  The only time I had issues with too many HRs was before I messed with the sliders and was playing on default.


                  Armor's are pretty close to default.


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                  • kiddlex
                    Pro
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 628

                    #10
                    Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

                    Originally posted by TomahawkChopYaHead
                    I play with A&S's sliders and have not had this issue.

                    The only time I had issues with too many HRs was before I messed with the sliders and was playing on default.
                    Tried those multiple times and it's bombs away every time for me as the user on directional and zone. Pitching is far too easy as well as you can strike out the CPU 12 times a game or more on average. Tried them on hof and it opens up a whole new set of issues.

                    Anyone have any success just turning on dynamic difficulty and letting it play out?

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                    • Gagnon39
                      Windy City Sports Fan
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 8544

                      #11
                      Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

                      Originally posted by kiddlex
                      Tried those multiple times and it's bombs away every time for me as the user on directional and zone. Pitching is far too easy as well as you can strike out the CPU 12 times a game or more on average. Tried them on hof and it opens up a whole new set of issues.



                      Anyone have any success just turning on dynamic difficulty and letting it play out?


                      No doubt. I'm going to shatter team home run records. I don't want this to turn into a, "use these sliders," thread. Or a, "I don't have this problem," thread.

                      I really think lowering power ratings would be the way to go. The only questions are those I posed in the OP.


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                      • Roscosuper
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 923

                        #12
                        Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

                        Originally posted by kiddlex
                        Tried those multiple times and it's bombs away every time for me as the user on directional and zone. Pitching is far too easy as well as you can strike out the CPU 12 times a game or more on average. Tried them on hof and it opens up a whole new set of issues.

                        Anyone have any success just turning on dynamic difficulty and letting it play out?


                        Yes. As the Mets in franchise mode, I seem to have stats like the RL Mets. I lost Reyes for the season, but I still have a healthy pitching staff so I'm 6 or 7 games above .500 through April.


                        I live off of pitching, home runs, and walks.


                        Dynamic difficulty with directional hitting and meter with classic fade pitching.


                        I stay around HOF and HOF+ for pitching, but for hitting I can dip as low as Veteran+.


                        With the Mets lineup, it's hard to maintain a higher hitting difficulty because of the lack of base hits, triples, and stolen bases. And the system doesn't seem to value walks very much either. I'm in the bottom third in OBP, but I'm over .300, pretty much like RL.

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                        • KnightTemplar
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2017
                          • 3282

                          #13
                          Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

                          Originally posted by Gagnon39
                          I don't want this to turn into a, "use these sliders," thread. Or a, "I don't have this problem," thread.

                          I really think lowering power ratings would be the way to go. The only questions are those I posed in the OP.


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                          This is what gets me about gamers and this game.

                          Sorry, but I don't have a problem that you speak of. I think you're trying to convince gamers to go your way when it appears to be your own issue with the game. It's the same with sliders. Different peoples sliders flat out don't work for some people (based on their eye hand coordination, different settings that this game offers). If reducing attributes works for you...go with it, but I don't think it's a cure all for what MAY be a perceived problem.

                          I think we'd be shocked if gamers had to post all of their settings and sliders when they say there is a problem. It'd make things a lot clearer.

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                          • EWRMETS
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 7491

                            #14
                            Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

                            Have your HR numbers continued at the same rate since patch 1.05. I definitely have a lot (2nd in the league) but I feel like the unrealistic rate was due to opposite field power pre 1.05.

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                            • Ed21
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 372

                              #15
                              Re: A definite fix for high HR numbers.

                              It definitely can be fixed with sliders. I've reduced wind to 3 and User power at 3 and I'm hitting less than 1 a game. Had a few games where I've hit 2/3 homers but it feels so much more satisfying now they're not all flying out the park. I actually celebrate HR's and feel great hitting them, whereas before I would almost be annoyed! That's not how it should be!!

                              I also guess pitch and use power swing on hitters counts. At 2-0 and 3-1 (3-0 green light for low walk/high power guys like Cespedes) I guess middle in fastball and if I get it and it's in the zone I try and crush it with a power swing. With User power at 3 you can still hit some no doubt bombs. Hit a 452 footer with Jake Lamb at Chase Field so the big distances are also their but it has to be crushed.

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