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  • Ranger Fan
    Rookie
    • Dec 2005
    • 478

    #91
    Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
    I am going to have to disagree Chef. Last night watching Servino pitch vs the Royals.....I counted 5-6 balls in the dirt and bouncing off Romine and 1 rolled away. I have noticed the CPU is not taking off nearly as much as when the game was released. The catcher throw though is something that needs work for 18 and they know this. The passive throws are not going to cut it. But IMO it is highly playable this year after all the updates.

    You have to pitch a little better. Just being honest. I watch my breaking balls and splitters etc a little more carefully this year. I feel the game is representing pretty much what I am watching every night around the league. When you have men on base you can’t throw filthy junk with reckless abandon. I am not having issues controlling the amount of dirt balls I throw with skilled higher rated pitchers. Lower rated guys is certainly more of a challenge (as it should be).

    Not directing this statement at you.....but I really sometimes wonder how much actual baseball some people watch on a nightly basis around the entire league before they go crazy posting this is wrong, that is wrong, this is not realistic this never happens etc etc etc.

    I am amazed how right the Show 17 is getting things I am seeing every single night in MLB.

    Really they made such a dramatic jump in game play realism this year some players (IMO) are uncomfortable with this shift that is being caused by the brilliant hitting physics, the humanity AI, the balls in the dirt etc etc. The realism has me constantly saying “yep...that’s baseball”.

    I have embraced this whole heartedly and seriously can’t stop playing this great game. And we got 7 updates inside 2 months to smooth out bugs and glitches and OSD errors......just awesome.

    And I am not even talking about the incredible visual jump on the Pro and 4K TV.....WOW man. Just wow. Roster makers are feasting this year!!!

    9/10 this year on this game. Easy.

    And BTW I have played DD online and have had no connection issues at all. Now I don’t play nearly as much as some people who live online.....but in 20 or so games I have played.....no issues.

    The game shines offline. Let’s not make any mistake about that.
    It is a great game. My only complaint or concern is the lack of injuries. Something happened post patch that limits injuries to almost nothing. It appears it is a domino effect. Fix something , break something that didn't need fixing. I love the game. It has taken a month to get it there but it is a great experience

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    • Armor and Sword
      The Lama
      • Sep 2010
      • 21790

      #92
      Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

      Originally posted by Ranger Fan
      It is a great game. My only complaint or concern is the lack of injuries. Something happened post patch that limits injuries to almost nothing. It appears it is a domino effect. Fix something , break something that didn't need fixing. I love the game. It has taken a month to get it there but it is a great experience
      I think you should talk to Chef about injuries.

      His Mariners are a walking infirmary. He is snake bit, and continues to get snake bit.

      Injuries are fine my man. Everyone is going to have different results in the game. And that is what makes it so good to me. It is not scripted and automatic.

      Wild results all over the spectrum for each player in franchise. The statistical randomness of baseball shines on this title, and injuries and errors are also dice rolled as well.

      It is baseball bliss for this former Strato-matic fanatic!!!
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      • Ranger Fan
        Rookie
        • Dec 2005
        • 478

        #93
        Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

        Originally posted by Armor and Sword
        I think you should talk to Chef about injuries.

        His Mariners are a walking infirmary. He is snake bit, and continues to get snake bit.

        Injuries are fine my man. Everyone is going to have different results in the game. And that is what makes it so good to me. It is not scripted and automatic.

        Wild results all over the spectrum for each player in franchise. The statistical randomness of baseball shines on this title, and injuries and errors are also dice rolled as well.

        It is baseball bliss for this former Strato-matic fanatic!!!
        Strat-0-Matic, god that brings back memories. I remember ordering the entire league packs after I bought the game and spending hours upon hours playing out seasons. We even had a little league going on. Great times. Graphics were great, because they were in our imagination. I thought I was the only one who played that game in the past. Your probably right about the injuries. Its just great fortune for me I guess that none of my players have been injured on my team at all through 16 regular season games and 31 games of Spring Training

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        • Gosens6
          All Star
          • Oct 2007
          • 6100

          #94
          Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

          The injuries are DEFINITELY out of whack and no one is going to tell me any different. Look at any MLB roster DL list and compare it to those in the game.

          Nowhere CLOSE. Playing out games I never have players get injured for more than a game at a time. Pitchers only seem to get hurt if a ball hits them in the head. Injuries are one thing in this game that aren't close to being realistic


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          • Armor and Sword
            The Lama
            • Sep 2010
            • 21790

            #95
            Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

            Originally posted by Gosens6
            The injuries are DEFINITELY out of whack and no one is going to tell me any different. Look at any MLB roster DL list and compare it to those in the game.

            Nowhere CLOSE. Playing out games I never have players get injured for more than a game at a time. Pitchers only seem to get hurt if a ball hits them in the head. Injuries are one thing in this game that aren't close to being realistic


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            I have lost two pitchers in played games for 2 months each. One was hit by a pitch and broke his hand, the other after making a pitch was removed and had a torn ligament in his finger (6 weeks).

            I had Ender Inciarte slide into second on a steal and tore his ACL....out for 6 months (season ending).

            Lost Ardolis Chapman for a 2 weeks to a strained shoulder (again playing an actual game)

            Injuries are working fine for me like they have had in every version previous to 17.

            In my slider thread Chef has been reporting crazy injuries to his Mariners team all season. And the hit's keep on coming for him.

            If I go around the league.....injuries on every roster ranging from 1 week to the season.

            What is your injury slider set to? How many actual franchise games have you played for your team (not simmed) to come to this conclusion?

            If I have the injury slider set higher than 6 on simulated games? It will be a hospital filled with injured players.

            I play actual games with it on 8.
            Last edited by Armor and Sword; 05-25-2017, 02:52 PM.
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            • Gosens6
              All Star
              • Oct 2007
              • 6100

              #96
              Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
              I have lost two pitchers in played games for 2 months each. One was hit by a pitch and broke his hand, the other after making a pitch was removed and had a torn ligament in his finger (6 weeks).

              I had Ender Inciarte slide into second on a steal and tore his ACL....out for 6 months (season ending).

              Lost Ardolis Chapman for a 2 weeks to a strained shoulder (again playing an actual game)

              Injuries are working fine for me like they have had in every version previous to 17.

              In my slider thread Chef has been reporting crazy injuries to his Mariners team all season. And the hit's keep on coming for him.


              If I go around the league.....injuries on every roster ranging from 1 week to the season.


              A&S , I always respect your opinion, but, I'm sorry. Injuries in this game just aren't close to replicating real MLB statistics. The amount of real MLB players with injuries and on the DL aren't anywhere close to the amount you'll see in MLB The Show.

              I'm serious, if you guys have never checked out the DL in the real MLB, you'd be shocked at the amount of injured players at all times.


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              • Armor and Sword
                The Lama
                • Sep 2010
                • 21790

                #97
                Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                Originally posted by Gosens6
                A&S , I always respect your opinion, but, I'm sorry. Injuries in this game just aren't close to replicating real MLB statistics. The amount of real MLB players with injuries and on the DL aren't anywhere close to the amount you'll see in MLB The Show.

                I'm serious, if you guys have never checked out the DL in the real MLB, you'd be shocked at the amount of injured players at all times.


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                Oh...I know (real MLB DL).

                I think you need to crank your injury slider to 10 for simmed games.....and I assure you that the DL will get filled up.

                Played games.....I am not going to say it is great. With the injury slider on 8 I will get some injuries but not as many as we should....agree there. Although again I have had them this season as I pointed out.

                But simulated games? Try cranking that slider to 10.....I am telling you it will get bad.

                What is your injury slider set to?
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                • Gosens6
                  All Star
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 6100

                  #98
                  Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                  Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                  Oh...I know (real MLB DL).



                  I think you need to crank your injury slider to 10 for simmed games.....and I assure you that the DL will get filled up.



                  Played games.....I am not going to say it is great. With the injury slider on 8 I will get some injuries but not as many as we should....agree there. Although again I have had them this season as I pointed out.



                  But simulated games? Try cranking that slider to 10.....I am telling you it will get bad.



                  What is your injury slider set to?


                  Haven't touched injury sliders tbh. It was never enough to actually deter my enjoyment of the game, just something I observed. I'll try and crank it up to see if it helps! Thanks for the advice!


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                  • Armor and Sword
                    The Lama
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 21790

                    #99
                    Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                    Originally posted by Gosens6
                    Haven't touched injury sliders tbh. It was never enough to actually deter my enjoyment of the game, just something I observed. I'll try and crank it up to see if it helps! Thanks for the advice!


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                    Right on man.

                    Played games - try it at 8

                    Simmed games...if you like a lot of injuries around the league including your own team if you sim a game for them as well try it out at 8 as well.

                    Warning. It can and will get ugly.
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                    • The Chef
                      Moderator
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 13684

                      #100
                      Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                      Originally posted by Ranger Fan
                      It is a great game. My only complaint or concern is the lack of injuries. Something happened post patch that limits injuries to almost nothing. It appears it is a domino effect. Fix something , break something that didn't need fixing. I love the game. It has taken a month to get it there but it is a great experience
                      Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                      I think you should talk to Chef about injuries.

                      His Mariners are a walking infirmary. He is snake bit, and continues to get snake bit.

                      Injuries are fine my man. Everyone is going to have different results in the game. And that is what makes it so good to me. It is not scripted and automatic.

                      Wild results all over the spectrum for each player in franchise. The statistical randomness of baseball shines on this title, and injuries and errors are also dice rolled as well.

                      It is baseball bliss for this former Strato-matic fanatic!!!
                      He ain't lying, my injuries have been crippling and I just had 2 more last night when Iwakuma went down for 2-3 months and Motter for an additional 1-2 months. I've already lost Zunino for 1-2 months (just returned a few games ago), Danny Valencia for 1-2 months, Nelson Cruz 1-2 months and Robinson Cano 1-2 months. I've had 2 small injuries which were of the 1-6 day variety when I lost Jean Segura and Jarrod Dyson but both are back and playing. The injuries have just decimated my team, the offense I can make up for a little but the pitching was already a weak point and Iwakuma was 8-4 so losing him is going to really hurt.
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                      • rh123
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 184

                        #101
                        Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                        Do I need to bump up solid hits or pwr at all post patch? I am not getting many hard line drives like I was before the patch. It was pretty realistic to me up until this patch.

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                        • MDgolf
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 1421

                          #102
                          Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                          I'm getting shelled lately. Before the game they say Russell Martins ability to call a good game is low or something like that. Has anyone else seen this?


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                          • Armor and Sword
                            The Lama
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 21790

                            #103
                            Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                            Originally posted by rh123
                            Do I need to bump up solid hits or pwr at all post patch? I am not getting many hard line drives like I was before the patch. It was pretty realistic to me up until this patch.
                            Not at all man.

                            It is great. Not seeing anything on All-Star Directional hitting that would suggest otherwise.
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                            • nomo17k
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                              • Feb 2011
                              • 5735

                              #104
                              Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                              Updated the TSN bug report on wild pitches/passed balls: http://theshownation.com/topics/1277...franchise-mode

                              Updatd after v1.07 patch.

                              I don't know if any further tuning has been attempted in the most recent patch on how catchers handle wild pitches/passed balls, but the level of wild pitch frequency remains roughly a factor of 2 - 3 more than the MLB average. After the patch, I have gotten in about 70 CPU vs. CPU test games (140 games worth of per game per team stats), and I am still seeing WP/G of about 1.0 (compared to the MLB average of 0.37 in 2016). (The relevant slider setting is Pitcher Control 2 and Pitcher Consistency 5 for the test set... but all the other stats from test games are viewable in the spreadsheet at http://www.operationsports.com/forum...7-version.html).

                              From the stats, I cannot say the wild pitch issues have improved much since the game release. Again, at the moment, wild pitch is pretty much the only stats that are wildly off from the 2016 MLB averages. While I don't necessarily believe it is a game killer (as in HR frequency being off by a factor of 2 - 3 would certainly make people cry over how arcade-y the game has become), wild pitches in tight ball games often happen in very nuanced situations, it would be regrettable if they cannot be brought down to within a ballpark of realism.

                              The frequency of wild pitches has been pretty realistic in the past iteration of the game.

                              A good news is that TSN bug reports are now searchable, so people don't have to (though they will anyways) keep filing duplicate bug reports which tend to dilute their effectiveness for bug hunting...
                              The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                              • capa
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 5321

                                #105
                                Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                                Originally posted by nomo17k
                                Updated the TSN bug report on wild pitches/passed balls: http://theshownation.com/topics/1277...franchise-mode




                                A good news is that TSN bug reports are now searchable, so people don't have to (though they will anyways) keep filing duplicate bug reports which tend to dilute their effectiveness for bug hunting...
                                This really is the one area that is killing the game for me. I have raised Control and Consistency to try to combat it and not much luck. Yesterday, I had 2 in one inning and a total of 4 WPs for the game by CPU.

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