Ratings drop

[sirjam]

I'm in franchise mode and I traded for a player on the block who was a 83. However once I got him his rating dropped to a 76. Is this normal in this game? And will he get his rating back to 83?

[Mbunn1993]

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Scroll over a couple pages in his player tab thing and you can find his morale, and whats causing it to go up or down

[CurburEnthusiasm]

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So is it low morale that's giving my players -1's(when I'm looking at my players individual ratings).

[TheWarmWind]

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So is it low morale that's giving my players -1's(when I'm looking at my players individual ratings).

nope the morale effect is invisible outside of the overall. What you are seeing is regression.

[No.27]

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I'd suggest trying not to look at the morale page! It nearly drove me insane because there is very little you can do to influence the random morale increase or decrease. I'm now choosing to completely ignore it

[The Chef]

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I'd suggest trying not to look at the morale page! It nearly drove me insane because there is very little you can do to influence the random morale increase or decrease. I'm now choosing to completely ignore it

I check the morale page all the time. I try and avoid bringing in guys who want to play for higher rated managers since in Seattle my manager is a C. If I see someone I like but they are underpaid per their expectations and signed long term I avoid them like the plague as well. It's a nice boost when their morale is "ecstatic" as their ratings get like a +4 boost I believe so it's definitely worthwhile. On the flip side Iwakuma is pissed off over his production, the manager and his salary so he's taking a decline to his ratings and it shows as he's been pitching like **** since coming off the DL.

[The Chef]

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nope the morale effect is invisible outside of the overall. What you are seeing is regression.

I'm still not 100% happy with the way regression works. Regression is tied too heavily to either age or potential. For instance when a players rating has already exceeded his "potential" he will start to decline unless he puts up a monster season. Case in point Jean Segura had an overall of 84, a potential of 80, he's hitting .300 with 15 HR's, 20+ steals, 35+ Doubles, 60+ RBI's and 70+ Runs yet he's declining because his rating exceeds his potential (he's only 27 y/o), yet Kyle Seager is 29 but leads the majors in HR's and RBI's, has the best batting average of his career, his rating has surpassed his potential but because of his monster year his potential appears to be going up as well to match the increased overall rating.

In other words ratings increase at a faster rate then potential does and once that plays out over time the gap becomes significant enough for the inevitable regression to start kicking in barring a huge season from said player.

[Slim4824]

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I'm still not 100% happy with the way regression works. Regression is tied too heavily to either age or potential. For instance when a players rating has already exceeded his "potential" he will start to decline unless he puts up a monster season. Case in point Jean Segura had an overall of 84, a potential of 80, he's hitting .300 with 15 HR's, 20+ steals, 35+ Doubles, 60+ RBI's and 70+ Runs yet he's declining because his rating exceeds his potential (he's only 27 y/o), yet Kyle Seager is 29 but leads the majors in HR's and RBI's, has the best batting average of his career, his rating has surpassed his potential but because of his monster year his potential appears to be going up as well to match the increased overall rating.

In other words ratings increase at a faster rate then potential does and once that plays out over time the gap becomes significant enough for the inevitable regression to start kicking in barring a huge season from said player.

I kind of like the way that plays out. Guy has some good years beyond his expectations. Then comes back to reality.

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[tessl]

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One thing they overlooked in morale is the salary of a minor league player when called up. IRL there is a major league minimum. In the show there is not major league minimum and the player is still getting paid milb money which causes him to be unhappy.

When they implement this stuff they need to fully think it through.

Regarding regression I don't fully understand it since the changes but it seems they don't accurately calculate vs lhp because I see some big swings in that category. It seems to be a combination of age, potential and performance but I see far more players declining significantly than improving and the lack of good players in the amateur draft doesn't bode well for a long term franchise.

Bottom line is one developer isn't enough to have assigned to franchise.

[Caulfield]

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One thing they overlooked in morale is the salary of a minor league player when called up. IRL there is a major league minimum. In the show there is not major league minimum and the player is still getting paid milb money which causes him to be unhappy.

When they implement this stuff they need to fully think it through.

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Bottom line is one developer isn't enough to have assigned to franchise.

Exactly. And its ironic that the bottom line is why theres only one dev to franchise.

[canes21]

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I'm still not 100% happy with the way regression works. Regression is tied too heavily to either age or potential. For instance when a players rating has already exceeded his "potential" he will start to decline unless he puts up a monster season. Case in point Jean Segura had an overall of 84, a potential of 80, he's hitting .300 with 15 HR's, 20+ steals, 35+ Doubles, 60+ RBI's and 70+ Runs yet he's declining because his rating exceeds his potential (he's only 27 y/o), yet Kyle Seager is 29 but leads the majors in HR's and RBI's, has the best batting average of his career, his rating has surpassed his potential but because of his monster year his potential appears to be going up as well to match the increased overall rating.

In other words ratings increase at a faster rate then potential does and once that plays out over time the gap becomes significant enough for the inevitable regression to start kicking in barring a huge season from said player.

I think there are multiple ways to look at this. Some guys want every player to be on the same system, so in your example they'd expect both players to improve their potentials since they are having good years. I personally don't mind it how it is. In real life we see players have their best years and then go back to being themselves the very next season or even get worse. I prefer every player to grow differently and not always add to their potential. I've seen guys raise their potential despite not putting up beastly numbers.

If we knew how to predict the potential of someone in real life accurately, the sport would be completely different, but no one has any clue how player A or player B will be in 5 years or even 1 year. I like the randomness that this game provides with the growth of the players. I've even seen A potential guys continually play well, but hardly ever get better than an 82 in their prime. Some would be upset with the game if that were to happen, but I just see it as a guy that had every tool to be great, played well, but just never put it all together consistently.

[sirjam]

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I just think there should be some kind of warning when trading for guys that their rating will decline

[canes21]

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Look at their morale page before trading for them and see if you can provide what they need to be happy.

[sirjam]

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Look at their morale page before trading for them and see if you can provide what they need to be happy.

I get in such a hurry I forget to do things like that. Good advice. I'm new to the show and ps4. I wonder what tricks and goodies I'm missing out on

[Ace2734]

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One thing they overlooked in morale is the salary of a minor league player when called up. IRL there is a major league minimum. In the show there is not major league minimum and the player is still getting paid milb money which causes him to be unhappy.

When they implement this stuff they need to fully think it through.

Regarding regression I don't fully understand it since the changes but it seems they don't accurately calculate vs lhp because I see some big swings in that category. It seems to be a combination of age, potential and performance but I see far more players declining significantly than improving and the lack of good players in the amateur draft doesn't bode well for a long term franchise.

Bottom line is one developer isn't enough to have assigned to franchise.

This. When you call a guy up he's already angry at his $50K salary. (Don't really blame him)


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