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  • Gagnon39
    Windy City Sports Fan
    • Mar 2003
    • 8544

    #1

    Morale and playoff rosters.

    Just finished the regular season and I'm looking over a few things including my potential playoff roster. I noticed that many of my player's morale is now not good because all of a sudden they are all "performing," poorly. One case in particular, Anthony Rizzo, who won the NL MLV award batting .301 with 51 homers and 127 RBIs is "failing." As a result he's down three rating points. I don't understand this. I wish there was an option to turn off morale as it seems like a good idea but it's implemented poorly in my opinion.

    The other thing is regarding moving players around. I don't want Brett Anderson on my playoff roster but I can't figure out any possible way to remove him. It says that he "can be removed but I must select a replacement," first. When I go to select a guy (like Brian Duensing) it says that he can't be added because only players on the active roster can be added. If I try to add Duensing prior to the actual end of the season it won't work either because he's on the 40-man and technically already active. There's no way to add a 40-man guy that up for the September call-ups to the "active roster," since essentially they're already on it.

    Either way, these things just seem a little off. I really wish I could make a few adjustments to my playoff roster but it doesn't seem like it is possible. Has anyone experienced this and does anyone have any solutions?
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  • No.27
    Pro
    • Dec 2015
    • 543

    #2
    Re: Morale and playoff rosters.

    Originally posted by Gagnon39
    Just finished the regular season and I'm looking over a few things including my potential playoff roster. I noticed that many of my player's morale is now not good because all of a sudden they are all "performing," poorly. One case in particular, Anthony Rizzo, who won the NL MLV award batting .301 with 51 homers and 127 RBIs is "failing." As a result he's down three rating points. I don't understand this. I wish there was an option to turn off morale as it seems like a good idea but it's implemented poorly in my opinion.

    The other thing is regarding moving players around. I don't want Brett Anderson on my playoff roster but I can't figure out any possible way to remove him. It says that he "can be removed but I must select a replacement," first. When I go to select a guy (like Brian Duensing) it says that he can't be added because only players on the active roster can be added. If I try to add Duensing prior to the actual end of the season it won't work either because he's on the 40-man and technically already active. There's no way to add a 40-man guy that up for the September call-ups to the "active roster," since essentially they're already on it.

    Either way, these things just seem a little off. I really wish I could make a few adjustments to my playoff roster but it doesn't seem like it is possible. Has anyone experienced this and does anyone have any solutions?
    On the morale question there are only a couple of ways to influence it. One I know of is to check if anyone is unhappy with their coach. Even at this late stage in the season you can sack a C grade coach and hire a A grade coach to make them happy. Also check the players team role and see if you can change that to make them happy. If you want to "cheat" you can edit where a player is born which is probably wrong anyway to give them a compatriot on the team which again makes them happy. What a system! Hope its improved or we can turn it off next year.
    Last edited by No.27; 07-12-2017, 05:49 AM.

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    • Greencollarbaseball
      Pro
      • Jun 2012
      • 926

      #3
      Re: Morale and playoff rosters.

      Playoff rosters are broke, people coming back from injury during the playoffs is broke. Essentially if you want to set your playoff roster you need to do it in August and if a guy is scheduled to return from injury during the playoffs you need to manually fix his injury and make sure he's on the roster before the end of the regular season.


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      • tabarnes19_SDS
        Game Designer
        • Feb 2003
        • 3084

        #4
        Re: Morale and playoff rosters.

        This is a legacy issue. I get really frustrated that I cannot add players to my playoff roster. Also does not allow players to be added unless they were physically on the 25 on Sept. 1.

        If they played on the 25 from April 1 to aug 31 they are not eligible for playoff roster in game.



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        • The Chef
          Moderator
          • Sep 2003
          • 13684

          #5
          Re: Morale and playoff rosters.

          Yeah I'm not a fan of morale at all. Drew Smyly had a great season for me, in fact his stats were the best in my rotation even better then Felix. He had either been happy or satisfied all season then the playoffs began, he suddenly got pissed over his salary (I'm left to assume he improved just enough to raise his expectations and now they weren't in line with his actual salary) and his performance and has taken a -5 point hit to his overall. Now if it was merely cosmetic then it wouldn't make a big difference but it isn't, his morale negatively effects his actual ratings in game. In the main menu Smyly has a 70 H/9 which went up but due to poor morale, in game his H/9 drops down to 66. His stamina takes a hit, basically all his pitching ratings take a hit and it's all based on things I can't even address and didn't happen until the regular season wrapped up. Because of this, instead of having a really solid #4 I've got a #4 who was pitching poorly and getting lit up (granted he finally pitched well in his game 2 start of the World Series.

          As for rosters, this part grinds at me as well. I failed to setup 30 team control for the first time in years but it doesn't sound like it would have made a difference anyways. Washington just got Trae Turner back off the DL, he's still on the 40-man roster, but he's sitting down in AAA while Stephen Drew starts at SS every game. Turner would be a much better option obviously, his speed could cause havoc on the bathpaths but they won't or can't call him up. It's been pretty disappointing in the playoffs. I faced Houston in the ALDS with Brian McCann playing SS due Correa being injured, Toronto in the ALDS but they were completely healthy so no issues there and now Washington in the World Series and Turner is rotting in AAA while Drew starts instead. It's a letdown to not play against a teams best players when those players are healthy and ready to go.

          In the future I'll probably go and remove any injuries on players in early September who would return from the DL towards the end of September or the playoffs in hopes they will get the roster corrected with time to spare and then I'll turn injuries off so nothing can happen down the stretch.
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          • Gagnon39
            Windy City Sports Fan
            • Mar 2003
            • 8544

            #6
            Re: Morale and playoff rosters.

            The fact that Rizzo just won the NL MVP and is not "failing," in regards to his personal performance is just ridiculous. I don't mind the idea of morale but it needs to work properly. Rizzo's down from an 92 to an 89 because of this and there's nothing I can do to fix it.
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            • EWRMETS
              All Star
              • Jul 2002
              • 7491

              #7
              Re: Morale and playoff rosters.

              The problem to me is that they implement features like morale but then do not devote the resources to make it work. It seems like they only focused on gameplay this year. Hopefully, next year they spend some time with franchise.

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              • Gagnon39
                Windy City Sports Fan
                • Mar 2003
                • 8544

                #8
                Re: Morale and playoff rosters.

                Originally posted by EWRMETS
                The problem to me is that they implement features like morale but then do not devote the resources to make it work. It seems like they only focused on gameplay this year. Hopefully, next year they spend some time with franchise.
                Unfortunately, this is what we say every single year. "Hopefully next year franchise gets some attention."

                I remember seeing that Russell said that they literally only have one programmer that works on franchise mode. I'm sure it a daunting task to create, implement, and check new features in that mode. Sadly, there's just no reason for SCEA to give franchise mode attention since they make tons of money from Diamond Dynasty and Road to The Show.
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                • EWRMETS
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 7491

                  #9
                  Re: Morale and playoff rosters.

                  Originally posted by Gagnon39
                  Unfortunately, this is what we say every single year. "Hopefully next year franchise gets some attention."

                  I remember seeing that Russell said that they literally only have one programmer that works on franchise mode. I'm sure it a daunting task to create, implement, and check new features in that mode. Sadly, there's just no reason for SCEA to give franchise mode attention since they make tons of money from Diamond Dynasty and Road to The Show.
                  Yeah which is disappointing because NBA2k has done some cool concepts with franchise (rivalries, multiple injuries) which would work really well in a baseball game. I think because the gameplay is so good, we give SCEA a pass.

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                  • bobloblah1980
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 459

                    #10
                    Re: Morale and playoff rosters.

                    I noticed this 1 the other day for morale. I am doing a NL team franchise with a DH and lets not get into THAT debate right now because it's an unwinable argument no matter which side you are on.... anyway I never check the morales mostly because I don't like it, anyways I had guys showing their status as platoon and upset when they were in my line-ups everyday. Well even though I was using the dh line ups. Because It was a NL team I had to go in and put said players in the line-ups for non dh and then their morale went back up? Now how dumb is that?

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                    • Ace2734
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 437

                      #11
                      Morale and playoff rosters.

                      Originally posted by Greencollarbaseball
                      Playoff rosters are broke, people coming back from injury during the playoffs is broke. Essentially if you want to set your playoff roster you need to do it in August and if a guy is scheduled to return from injury during the playoffs you need to manually fix his injury and make sure he's on the roster before the end of the regular season.


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                      Yep. If a player is out, he's out for the entire postseason. Don't even get me started on the morale system. I like where their head is at but they should let you edit morale attributes.

                      For example: the role a player wants. Some are unreasonable and setting Lucroy's expectation from "star" to "everyday" would help his morale.

                      Also a large part of morale are salaries..which are broken, especially with call-ups earning 50K in the majors.


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                      Last edited by Ace2734; 07-15-2017, 01:36 AM.

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                      • NDAlum
                        ND
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 11453

                        #12
                        Re: Morale and playoff rosters.

                        Co-sign everything in here!

                        The playoff roster issue kills me the most...had to go without a solid player last playoffs and it hurt.
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                        • Ace2734
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 437

                          #13
                          Re: Morale and playoff rosters.

                          Originally posted by bobloblah1980
                          I noticed this 1 the other day for morale. I am doing a NL team franchise with a DH and lets not get into THAT debate right now because it's an unwinable argument no matter which side you are on.... anyway I never check the morales mostly because I don't like it, anyways I had guys showing their status as platoon and upset when they were in my line-ups everyday. Well even though I was using the dh line ups. Because It was a NL team I had to go in and put said players in the line-ups for non dh and then their morale went back up? Now how dumb is that?

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                          Yep. You can also cheat it this way by putting a NL player in the no DH lineups who isn't in your actually DH lineup. I also use full league DH and this is annoying lol


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                          • rtwilli4
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 226

                            #14
                            Re: Morale and playoff rosters.

                            Originally posted by tabarnes19
                            This is a legacy issue. I get really frustrated that I cannot add players to my playoff roster. Also does not allow players to be added unless they were physically on the 25 on Sept. 1.

                            If they played on the 25 from April 1 to aug 31 they are not eligible for playoff roster in game.



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                            So basically you're 25 man on Sept 1 is your playoff roster? No matter what?

                            I didn't make the playoffs In 2017 but am going for it in the next few seasons. I was expecting for everyone on my 40 man on Sept 1 to be eligible for the post season roster... you can set rosters at the beginning of each series IRL right?


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                            • tabarnes19_SDS
                              Game Designer
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 3084

                              #15
                              Re: Morale and playoff rosters.

                              Originally posted by rtwilli4
                              So basically you're 25 man on Sept 1 is your playoff roster? No matter what?

                              I didn't make the playoffs In 2017 but am going for it in the next few seasons. I was expecting for everyone on my 40 man on Sept 1 to be eligible for the post season roster... you can set rosters at the beginning of each series IRL right?


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                              Seems to be what my experience is. I've had guys who played on the 25 throughout the season, but were not on 25 on Sept 1 so they were not playoff eligible for whatever reason.

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