Too many Double plays?

[AncientDiety]

Hi guys, I am asking for your help/experience with Double plays in MLB the show. I seem to have an issue were I am always hitting into a crazy amount of Double plays. I have tried to change my approach, hit and run more. It just seems when I have runners on, Great contact, great timing, it is so often right at a fielder. Am I doing something wrong? Does anyone else have this issue? Or is maybe the game just built this way?

I even made some trades to improve team speed, that helps, but still seems very disproportionate?

Example

I was second in the MLB in Team Batting Avg, 12th in Homeruns, but somehow end up 25-46th in runs. All because of the double plays, gets frustrating.

[iorg16]

Re: Too many Double plays?

what do you consider a "crazy amount" ? You can turn the fielding error sliders up to 10. It won't cause a whole bunch of errors, but it will open the chance for fumbles, and fielder throws that aren't right on the mark. Otherwise, that's baseball. It all can't be swayed your way.

[Caulfield]

Re: Too many Double plays?

Hi guys, I am asking for your help/experience with Double plays in MLB the show. I seem to have an issue were I am always hitting into a crazy amount of Double plays. I have tried to change my approach, hit and run more. It just seems when I have runners on, Great contact, great timing, it is so often right at a fielder. Am I doing something wrong? Does anyone else have this issue? Or is maybe the game just built this way?

I even made some trades to improve team speed, that helps, but still seems very disproportionate?

Example

I was second in the MLB in Team Batting Avg, 12th in Homeruns, but somehow end up 25-46th in runs. All because of the double plays, gets frustrating.

if you're not dead last by a big margin, it may not necessarily be disproportionate.
having said that though, there's nothing wrong with looking for tips trying to reduce GIDP even if you're in the top 10 of fewest GIDP. I hope to see a few tips here. sometimes I feel like Cal Ripken when it comes to grounding into them.

[AncientDiety]

Re: Too many Double plays?

if you're not dead last by a big margin, it may not necessarily be disproportionate.
having said that though, there's nothing wrong with looking for tips trying to reduce GIDP even if you're in the top 10 of fewest GIDP. I hope to see a few tips here. sometimes I feel like Cal Ripken when it comes to grounding into them.

I am last, not sure by how much, i'd have to boot up the game again to see. It's not even just DP's really. Runners on base no out, first guy crushes the ball, right at a fielder for a line drive out,then next hitter makes hard contact, right at someone, DP lol. Seems to happen a lot to me, maybe I am just unlucky.

[underdog13]

Re: Too many Double plays?

There always have been too many double plays

[countryboy]

Re: Too many Double plays?

Please note these stats are from '16:

Last year, the last season I play, I finished in the Top 12 in fewest double plays hit into. The year completed prior to that I believe I was like 20th or so. Now this year thru 2 months, I'm sitting 28th in double plays hit into, 8 less than the last ranked Padres.

I've seen other discuss the fact that they believe there are too many DP's in the game, but I haven't experienced that in my time with the game.

Curious, for those who are statistically ranked towards the bottom of the league in double plays grounded into, are you playing every game? Or are you simming games?

Personally I play every game.

[a bit outside]

Re: Too many Double plays?

Just curious, so how many double plays and how many games played ?

[countryboy]

Re: Too many Double plays?

Just curious, so how many double plays and how many games played ?

After my last game that went 15 innings and I grounded into 3 double plays, I have now hit into 48 double plays thru 61 games.

[nemesis04]

Re: Too many Double plays?

I tend to feel the show is double play heavy in frequency and in success of turning them. Feels like the game uses it as a balance tool more than anything.

[a bit outside]

Re: Too many Double plays?

After my last game that went 15 innings and I grounded into 3 double plays, I have now hit into 48 double plays thru 61 games.

I am pretty much inline with that as well, I am averaging .7 double plays per game. With that being said, I do have the base runner speed increased because I thought 17 was a little to station to station on base hits and that has made runners go from first to third or second to home more.....so maybe that has lowered double plays some.

[AncientDiety]

Re: Too many Double plays?

I forgot to mention, I play every game and have played a full season, and now into my second, still seems to be a point of frustration for me.

It feels like the game is slanted more towards low scoring games because of this, for me at least , this has been my experience. Regardless of how good my contact is.

[AncientDiety]

Re: Too many Double plays?

I tend to feel the show is double play heavy in frequency and in success of turning them. Feels like the game uses it as a balance tool more than anything.

Yes exactly this...you put it way better than I did. It could just be total luck, but after playing 200 + games it sure feels like it to me. Maybe it's just my hitting tendencies.

[Gagnon39]

Re: Too many Double plays?

Entirely too many double plays in the game (turned by the CPU against the user) despite what anyone will say or how they may justify it. The reason is because all fielders are gold glovers. I've seen it hundreds of times... a second baseman fields a ball deep in the hole to his left with a runner on first. While 95% of MLB fielders would take the out at first, in The Show every fielder will wheel and throw a perfect strike to the shortstop covering second who of course turns the double play. This is just one piece of the issue but if SCEA would simply code in making the second baseman taking the more realistic out, double plays would go down significantly.

[countryboy]

Re: Too many Double plays?

Entirely too many double plays in the game (turned by the CPU against the user) despite what anyone will say or how they may justify it.

Who is justifying anything? I'm sharing my experience and providing the stats to back up my experience.

How many are too many?

I just played two straight games where I didn't hit into a single double play therefore bringing my numbers to 48 hit into in 63 games. That is right on MLB average for a team at the bottom of the ranking such as myself.

In 2017 the Royals hit into 160 double plays over the course of 162 games, nearly 1 per game (.98). The best team, the Padres hit into 99 over the course of 162 games, .61 per game.

The major league average was .78 per game (3,804 double plays hit into in 4,860 games total).

The major league average was .76 per game (3,719 double plays hit into in 4,856 games total) in 2016.

Thus far I'm hitting into .76 per game which is right about the league average for this past 2 MLB seasons.

So my experience is that the double plays are not excessive and are pretty much inline with what happens in real life.




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[Herschie]

Re: Too many Double plays?

Entirely too many double plays in the game (turned by the CPU against the user) despite what anyone will say or how they may justify it. The reason is because all fielders are gold glovers. I've seen it hundreds of times... a second baseman fields a ball deep in the hole to his left with a runner on first. While 95% of MLB fielders would take the out at first, in The Show every fielder will wheel and throw a perfect strike to the shortstop covering second who of course turns the double play. This is just one piece of the issue but if SCEA would simply code in making the second baseman taking the more realistic out, double plays would go down significantly.

Yep. It's one thing when it's a tailor-made double play, it's quite another when it's constantly a spectacular play, or even worse, on a sacrifice bunt. Now often are they able to turn a 5-6-4 double play on a slow-rolling bunt? Even if they could, usually they take the sure out at first.