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  • ericjwm
    Banned
    • Mar 2003
    • 1807

    #1

    Hate all you want....

    Barry Bonds has got to be in this with Griffey.. gotta have the fire power against Maris and Ruth


    Don't hate the Bonds.. Juan Gonzalez too!
    Last edited by ericjwm; 02-16-2018, 06:28 AM.
  • Unlucky 13
    MVP
    • Apr 2009
    • 1707

    #2
    Re: Hate all you want(Concerning Legend)....

    Originally posted by ericjwm
    Barry Bonds has got to be in this with Griffey.. gotta have the fire power against Maris and Ruth


    Don't hate the Bonds.. Juan Gonzalez too!
    Are you aware that Bonds wasn't in video games while he was still playing?
    Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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    • ninertravel
      MVP
      • Aug 2015
      • 4833

      #3
      Re: Hate all you want(Concerning Legend)....

      Originally posted by Unlucky 13
      Are you aware that Bonds wasn't in video games while he was still playing?
      Not true I remember him being in Tripple play a sega mega drive game

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      • a bit outside
        Banned
        • Jun 2017
        • 187

        #4
        Re: Hate all you want(Concerning Legend)....

        Originally posted by Unlucky 13
        Are you aware that Bonds wasn't in video games while he was still playing?
        That is correct, I believe he was substituted with a player named Reggie Stocker maybe?

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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52789

          #5
          Re: Hate all you want(Concerning Legend)....

          Originally posted by ninertravel
          Not true I remember him being in Tripple play a sega mega drive game
          Yeah but then he was no longer part of the MLBPA. He wasn't in the MVP series that followed Triple Play and I don't recall him being in any game past that.

          I'm not saying he won't be in the game, but I'm saying I find it to be highly unlikely that he will be in the game.
          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

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          • thescoop
            MVP
            • Jan 2006
            • 1288

            #6
            Re: Hate all you want(Concerning Legend)....

            Bonds has usually refused to allow his likeness to be in games. As others stated, it started after he left the MLBPA. He was never in MVP or the show. They usually had a fake player to fill in for him that you could edit or create your own.

            Maybe now that Bonds has been attempting to change his image in attempt to get in the Hall of Fame he might allow this to happen. But until I see it announced I'd call this a long shot at best. And the issue would be because the folks at The Show don't want him. The issue would be because Bonds is still being Bonds.
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            • bravo2208
              Rookie
              • Jan 2018
              • 393

              #7
              Re: Hate all you want(Concerning Legend)....

              Jon Dowd was 10x the player Bonds ever was. And he did it the right way! Let's bring him back.
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              • troxartas
                Rookie
                • Apr 2014
                • 7

                #8
                Re: Hate all you want(Concerning Legend)....

                They mentioned him in the stream yesterday when they showed the 90s Pirates unis, that's a positive sign at least

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                • Blzer
                  Resident film pundit
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 42520

                  #9
                  Re: Hate all you want(Concerning Legend)....

                  I'm really hoping the BSC will be strong enough for me to recreate a true Barry Bonds stance. The bat waggle may not be as pronounced or the timing of it may never be right, but I'll try my best.

                  He had one of my favorite stances ever, and he made it look so good. I always questioned if a stance ever did anything to a swing, and after I tried it for myself in real life the answer was "yes." The issue is that I could never get the consistency or timing of it down, but I remember the first time I used his stance hitting off a machine before coaching my softball team's practice, I hit a softball farther than I ever have before. Unfortunately, it was mostly followed by a crapload of jam jobs and pop ups haha. Anyway, I digress.

                  Bonds CAP's always show up in the vault, some looking better than others... but with the newest CAP features and additions I am hoping he can really be brought back to life. Yes, I realistically think he would be the most valuable LF signing for the Giants today, even at 53 years of age.
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                  • thescoop
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 1288

                    #10
                    Re: Hate all you want(Concerning Legend)....

                    Originally posted by bravo2208
                    Jon Dowd was 10x the player Bonds ever was. And he did it the right way! Let's bring him back.
                    Yes! Thank you! I couldn't remember the fake Bond's name. I knew it was Jon but couldn't remember his last name! That dude was in fact a beast.
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                    • Blzer
                      Resident film pundit
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42520

                      #11
                      Re: Hate all you want(Concerning Legend)....

                      Originally posted by thescoop
                      Yes! Thank you! I couldn't remember the fake Bond's name. I knew it was Jon but couldn't remember his last name! That dude was in fact a beast.
                      I'm going off memory here, but here were all of the fake names:

                      MLB/The Show had Reggie Stocker
                      ESPN/MLB 2K had Joe Young
                      MVP Baseball had Jon Dowd (and was right-handed IIRC)
                      All Star Baseball had Wes Mailman
                      MLB Power Pros had Great Gonzales*
                      MLB SlugFest had Adan Buja

                      When I had High Heat 2004, I believe it had Bonds... which makes me believe the game was released before Bonds wasn't a part of the MLBPA.

                      Any other games? (didn't own Inside Pitch for Xbox and I believe that was before the MLBPA issue as well)

                      By the way, this didn't just affect games... he no longer had any baseball cards, wasn't on Giants calendars, etc.

                      * When I edited the name for Bonds in Power Pros, I tried my best to match an audio last name with his, so the one that matched best was for Boof Bonser. It was just hilarious any time the announcer would kind of shriek: "Bonser!" I want to record and upload a video of that so you know what I mean.
                      Last edited by Blzer; 02-16-2018, 02:25 PM.
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                      • thescoop
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 1288

                        #12
                        Re: Hate all you want(Concerning Legend)....

                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        I'm going off memory here, but here were all of the fake names:

                        MLB/The Show had Reggie Stocker
                        ESPN/MLB 2K had Joe Young
                        MVP Baseball had Jon Dowd (and was right-handed IIRC)
                        All Star Baseball had Wes Mailman
                        MLB Power Pros had Great Gonzales*
                        MLB SlugFest had Adan Buja

                        When I had High Heat 2004, I believe it had Bonds... which makes me believe the game was released before Bonds wasn't a part of the MLBPA.

                        Any other games? (didn't own Inside Pitch for Xbox and I believe that was before the MLBPA issue as well)

                        By the way, this didn't just affect games... he no longer had any baseball cards, wasn't on Giants calendars, etc.

                        * When I edited the name for Bonds in Power Pros, I tried my best to match an audio last name with his, so the one that matched best was for Boof Bonser. It was just hilarious any time the announcer would kind of shriek: "Bonser!" I want to record and upload a video of that so you know what I mean.
                        I remember Jon Dowd and Joe Young the best. But the one that stood out because they actually made him a powerful player was Dowd. And yes, I remember Dowd being a righty instead of a lefty.

                        I don't remember when Bonds pulled a Barkley and got himself removed from games. But I do remember everyone complaining about this Jon Dowd character being in his place.

                        I would always create Bonds and cut Dowd and see who signed him. He was stud so he rarely was left on the market.

                        As I said before, with Bonds trying to repair his image as of late, maybe he'll allow himself to be included in The Show this year. He would be a cool Legend. Of course since Ruth was the first announced I'd bet if they get Bonds he'll be the last one announced.
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                        • Rob_NYY
                          Jedi Master
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 2495

                          #13
                          Re: Hate all you want(Concerning Legend)....

                          Originally posted by thescoop
                          I don't remember when Bonds pulled a Barkley and got himself removed from games. But I do remember everyone complaining about this Jon Dowd character being in his place.
                          Michael Jordan did the same thing. Games in the late 90s never had him in there.

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                          • bigcgt27
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 54

                            #14
                            Re: Hate all you want....

                            Belichick isn't in Madden either.


                            Did anyone play Roger Clemens MVP Baseball on the NES back in the day? All of the team nicknames and player names were fake, but the names were close to their real life counterparts.

                            The Atlanta Condors had "Johns" for Smoltz, "Lavin" for Glavine, "Ronald" for Gant, "Judge" for Justice, etc. Daryl Strawberry was "Raspberry", Steve Sax was "Clarinet" hahaha

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                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42520

                              #15
                              Re: Hate all you want....

                              Originally posted by bigcgt27
                              Belichick isn't in Madden either.


                              Did anyone play Roger Clemens MVP Baseball on the NES back in the day? All of the team nicknames and player names were fake, but the names were close to their real life counterparts.

                              The Atlanta Condors had "Johns" for Smoltz, "Lavin" for Glavine, "Ronald" for Gant, "Judge" for Justice, etc. Daryl Strawberry was "Raspberry", Steve Sax was "Clarinet" hahaha


                              Never played that game, but Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball on SNES had all fake names besides Griffey's (which could all be edited). Most names were likely of developers, but I remember like...
                              • The Red Sox had some of our nation's founders (P. Revere, B. Franklin)
                              • The Royals had former presidents (A. Lincoln, J. Kennedy)
                              • The Rockies and Cardinals had entertainment biz folk (P. Lorre, W. Craven)
                              • Rangers had names of western origin (D. Boone, B. Kidd)

                              ... and so on and so forth. I can't remember them all, but I played it pretty recently because of the SNES Classic news and ran into many of these again.
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