MLB The Show 18 Video - Mark DeRosa Joins Commentary Team with Improved Presentation

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  • Syce
    MVP
    • Dec 2012
    • 1386

    #16
    Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

    Originally posted by breakfastcat
    Weird hearing that Harold is gone after only one year, thought he did fine. Does DeRosa actually call games? I don't think I've heard any he's done, just seen him on MLB Tonight. He's really good on there so I don't mind.

    The other thing about them all recording together is what I've wanted for years. I just hope the conversations sound natural now because before they've always sounded so disjointed and scripted. It's great that they are finally making these improvements.
    i always think, that they should put them all in a room together, and just watch games and commentate naturally off that. i know in real life commentating they get notes and such from directors and such but, i always think that would make it sound more real.
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    • videobastard
      MVP
      • Aug 2004
      • 3388

      #17
      Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

      Disappointing as usual. The one unique voice they had that sounded the most realistic out of the 3 in terms of video game sound to real life, they replace with another dull/monotone styled in game voice.

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      • Teddy_Long
        MVP
        • Jul 2003
        • 2458

        #18
        Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

        harold was the best part about the commentary in the show. i am very surprised he's gone.

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        • rkocjay
          Pro
          • Oct 2013
          • 601

          #19
          Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

          I literally think this game will be his first time color commentating. They said in the video he makes his debut

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          • breakfastcat
            MVP
            • Jan 2013
            • 1018

            #20
            Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

            I'm thinking the decision to replace Harold was not out of not wanting him anymore. I feel like the new method for recording audio may have been more intensive and required more hours of work than Harold may have been able to commit to with his busy schedule. So instead they decide to try out DeRosa, who doesn't have a whole lot else going on at the moment, and maybe he saw this as an opportunity to break into the color-commentary business. I always liked him on MLB Tonight, he has a lot of energy but doesn't say as many of those head scratching things Harold is known for, and I think he'll be a fine replacement for Harold.

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            • Impetuous65
              MVP
              • Feb 2015
              • 1451

              #21
              Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

              I think if they would just try making OSD more dynamic and show things like WAR and other analytic stats it would probably make the presentation much better instead of trying to find the holy grail 3rd man in the booth.

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              • SoxFan01605
                All Star
                • Jan 2008
                • 7982

                #22
                Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

                That video honestly took the wind out of my sails a bit. I respect they got everyone in the booth together and are trying to make things more dynamic, but I would have preferred Reynolds sticking around in that context (If we're dropping anyone, I'd pick Plesac).

                As was mentioned, it was likely logistics over simply excluding Harold, but it's a bit disappointing nonetheless as the only thing wrong with HR last year was a lack of line variety. His voice flowed better than anyone, IMO.

                That said, I'm happy for the change in approach, at least, and I'll wait for the dev breakdown before passing any real judgement.

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                • Blzer
                  Resident film pundit
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 42515

                  #23
                  Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

                  Hopefully this time Matt is recording without a cold.

                  I already said in the other thread, but I was kind of turned away by the similar sounding voices of Steve Lyons and Eric Karros, and the ilk of DeRo sounding somewhat similar to Plesac removes some of the versatility aspect you'd expect in the booth. Though I believe you'll heard Mark talk more about the hitting and Dan talk about the pitching.

                  The "same booth" stuff sounds good, but again the lines are just going to be so long that the conversations will get repetitive rather quickly. Maybe not much we can ever do there though. I think as long as the situations are dynamic enough it won't be too bad (so if they talk about how we have been hot recently, as long as it's because we have been then I'll be good with it).
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                  • breakfastcat
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 1018

                    #24
                    Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

                    Another small thing I've noticed in videos so far that I've really liked, regarding crowd logic, is that there seems to be a much more realistic dispersal of fans in lower-attendance games. In previous years, the crowd would basically just be evenly distributed in each section, and that would result in a bunch of fans essentially just sitting by themselves. But that's not realistic. People go to games in groups and the new logic seems to incorporate that by clumping the remaining fans together so no one is (or very few people are) just sitting by themselves. This makes me incredibly happy because it's something that has always irked me about the crowd in the past, but I never thought it was something that would actually be considered to improve. Good stuff!

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                    • goillini03
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 1247

                      #25
                      Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

                      I agree with the sentiment around Harold. Liked what he did in 17. I wish they would have found a way to keep him around, and ran with two different crews. This would have helped each game sound a bit different. I know there was probably money and time that comes into these decisions.

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                      • PhilliesFan13
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                        • May 2009
                        • 15651

                        #26
                        Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

                        Funny how last year at this time everyone complained about Harold Reynolds being in the game and this year everyone is complaining he is out. Interesting.

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                        • beau21
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                          • Oct 2007
                          • 1813

                          #27
                          Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

                          Full speed replays is a nice addition, but one of these years I’m hoping to hear that they focused on “broadcast cinematography”.

                          I would love for the presentation devs to just stream real broadcasts side by side with the game, and try matching the camera cuts, ball in play camera angles, etc. Real broadcasts typically have more camera cuts, and more zoomed angles than The Show has.


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                          • Blzer
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                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42515

                            #28
                            Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

                            Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
                            Funny how last year at this time everyone complained about Harold Reynolds being in the game and this year everyone is complaining he is out. Interesting.

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                            I neither recall nor echoed that sentiment. If I spoke poorly about something, it's because I just don't like the game's (or most games') commentary structure.
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                            • BULLKID
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 49

                              #29
                              Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

                              Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
                              Funny how last year at this time everyone complained about Harold Reynolds being in the game and this year everyone is complaining he is out. Interesting.

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                              You hit it dead on the head,just think if Harold was in the booth commentary at the same time.Last year's hate=this year's miss I don't get it

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                              • KnightTemplar
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2017
                                • 3282

                                #30
                                Re: Gamestop Monday #2: Presentation

                                This is a video game. Why complicate things with a 3 man booth? Two, interacting should do it. The fact that Matt is still there is a real bummer. I'm certainly aware of how hard it must be (if they did in fact dump Matt), but geez...this guy is so stale.

                                Oh, well, never use the commentators anyway, so....enjoy.

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