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  • Woodweaver
    Developer
    • Apr 2006
    • 1145

    #61
    Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

    Originally posted by BigOscar
    You didn't have to improve your player to be 99 in everything either, but you had the choice. It just seems weird to take choices away from people. Just have a "no archetype" option and you've got the best of both worlds, allowing people to play the game the way they want. It's a single player mode after all


    It would be a large undertaking to attempt to maintain both systems.

    I think you will find that you will still be a dominant player with a maxed out archetype.

    The direction the designers are going is more of a story mode/RPG with a bit more gritty realism. A story framework is provided along with a game system and a set of "character classes" with different strengths and weakness. The player choose the outcome of the story, and it will be different everytime ideally. These concepts will be fleshed out more and more with each iteration.

    I know some wish to be superhuman as a choice, but I think the feeling was that we've done that already and frankly it's kind of boring. "You always dominate, never struggle, don't have to make any sacrifices or difficult choices, and you end up in the HOF."
    "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

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    • Dolenz
      MVP
      • May 2014
      • 2056

      #62
      Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

      Originally posted by Woodweaver
      It would be a large undertaking to attempt to maintain both systems.

      I think you will find that you will still be a dominant player with a maxed out archetype.

      The direction the designers are going is more of a story mode/RPG with a bit more gritty realism. A story framework is provided along with a game system and a set of "character classes" with different strengths and weakness. The player choose the outcome of the story, and it will be different everytime ideally. These concepts will be fleshed out more and more with each iteration.

      I know some wish to be superhuman as a choice, but I think the feeling was that we've done that already and frankly it's kind of boring. "You always dominate, never struggle, don't have to make any sacrifices or difficult choices, and you end up in the HOF."

      I understand limiting newly created players to the archetypes. But carry over players who are well past the caps and probably also well past the story, which I am guessing is mostly the journey to the majors, should not be penalized.


      It seems like it should have been possible to create an archetype with all 99 caps but make it an option that only carry over players could choose.

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      • Woodweaver
        Developer
        • Apr 2006
        • 1145

        #63
        MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

        Originally posted by Dolenz
        I understand limiting newly created players to the archetypes. But carry over players who are well past the caps and probably also well past the story, which I am guessing is mostly the journey to the majors, should not be penalized.


        It seems like it should have been possible to create an archetype with all 99 caps but make it an option that only carry over players could choose.


        I think you'll find the penalty is rather small and a long time coming...depending on your choices.
        "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

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        • Factzzz
          FA
          • Aug 2011
          • 1655

          #64
          Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

          Originally posted by aukevin
          Anything added to RTTS in terms of contract incentives or anything like that? I would like to have goals like reach playoffs, hit 30 HR, etc that translate into contract incentives. Just something to keep playing for over the seasons. Any other off-the-field stuff like endorsements or trophy cases for awards?
          Yeah this was more the direction I was hoping the mode would go.

          Goals would make each year feel a little different, individual goals and team goals.

          And then endorsements just make sense, especially with the agent, there should at least be equipment endorsements. Start off with like a Nike silver sponsorship, so you get all the silver equipment, then as you get better, you get paid more and get the gold nike equipment, then eventually diamond Nike equipment. Or some system like that.

          More social media interaction with narratives of what's going on around the league, or if your player breaks a record or something.

          There is a lot of directions this mode could've went, not sure i like this direction, although it will definitely make it more of a grind to get to the majors, so actually getting to the bigs will be more appreciated this year.
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          • Dolenz
            MVP
            • May 2014
            • 2056

            #65
            Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

            Originally posted by Woodweaver
            I think you'll find the penalty is rather small and a long time coming...depending on your choices.


            Lets hope so. The more info we can get on this the better. It very well may determine whether I carry my players forward or just stick to '17 for RTTS. I would love to move them to 18 for the other improvements as long as the over the cap stats don't deteriorate too quickly.

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            • Jimmydm90
              Rookie
              • Nov 2013
              • 405

              #66
              Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

              I think the best option for the archetypes would have been to make them modular where you combine (say 3) archetypes together. You pick your fielder archetype (that only focuses on fielding attributes) out of a few options, your pick your hitter archetype (that only focuses on hitting attributes) and then you pick your archetype that covers the other miscellaneous stats. That way instead of being restricted to 5/6 types of players you basically can pick from a 100 or so different combinations. Then you'd be able to make the guy you want to make but you're still forced to be strategic.

              Alternatively you could keep archetypes as is and then get the option at the start of RTTS to push the max cap on one attribute of your choice up to 99.

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              • Armor and Sword
                The Lama
                • Sep 2010
                • 21780

                #67
                Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                In the meantime. Did we get the pitcher archetypes? I don't recall seeing anything about pitchers.
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                • BigOscar
                  MVP
                  • May 2016
                  • 2971

                  #68
                  Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                  Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                  In the meantime. Did we get the pitcher archetypes? I don't recall seeing anything about pitchers.
                  They showed them in the stream there are three SP and 2 closer ones. Essentially flamethrower and breaking ball specialists for both, plus a control one for SP.

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                  • MLB14
                    Pro
                    • May 2014
                    • 636

                    #69
                    Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                    Originally posted by seasprite
                    Not arguing anything and the caps bring realism to me......there's no debate in that.

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                    There's debate in that. It's now impossible to make certain types of players because of the caps. It's impossible to make a Mantle or Trout or Mays.

                    Who wants to go into a fantasy mode like RTTS with potential to only become a standard player?
                    Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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                    • SilverBullet1929
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1924

                      #70
                      Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                      Originally posted by Woodweaver
                      It would be a large undertaking to attempt to maintain both systems.

                      I think you will find that you will still be a dominant player with a maxed out archetype.

                      The direction the designers are going is more of a story mode/RPG with a bit more gritty realism. A story framework is provided along with a game system and a set of "character classes" with different strengths and weakness. The player choose the outcome of the story, and it will be different everytime ideally. These concepts will be fleshed out more and more with each iteration.

                      I know some wish to be superhuman as a choice, but I think the feeling was that we've done that already and frankly it's kind of boring. "You always dominate, never struggle, don't have to make any sacrifices or difficult choices, and you end up in the HOF."
                      Great post. This makes a lot of sense to me. This post right here is making me want to try this version of RTTS and I absolutely have never been a RTTS guy.

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                      • Jeffrey Smith
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 1925

                        #71
                        Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                        Just watched Mills breakdown of the RTTS stream and for the first time ever I’m actually interested in this mode. I think I’ll give it a try this year.
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                        • Bullit
                          Bacon is Better
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5004

                          #72
                          Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                          Originally posted by MLB14
                          There's debate in that. It's now impossible to make certain types of players because of the caps. It's impossible to make a Mantle or Trout or Mays.

                          Who wants to go into a fantasy mode like RTTS with potential to only become a standard player?
                          They specifically stated in the stream that you COULD make a Trout like player if you really wanted to. So why would you not be able to create anybody you wanted?
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                          • seasprite
                            Phenom
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 8984

                            #73
                            Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                            Originally posted by MLB14
                            There's debate in that. It's now impossible to make certain types of players because of the caps. It's impossible to make a Mantle or Trout or Mays.

                            Who wants to go into a fantasy mode like RTTS with potential to only become a standard player?
                            There is absolutely no debate in what opinion I have, that is all I said.






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                            • Dolenz
                              MVP
                              • May 2014
                              • 2056

                              #74
                              Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                              Originally posted by Bullit
                              They specifically stated in the stream that you COULD make a Trout like player if you really wanted to. So why would you not be able to create anybody you wanted?


                              Trout like, but without proper equipment there is no Archetype that can reach both 90+ in both Power and Contact and 80+ in speed as Trout's diamond card has.

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                              • Bullit
                                Bacon is Better
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 5004

                                #75
                                Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                                Originally posted by Dolenz
                                Trout like, but without proper equipment there is no Archetype that can reach both 90+ in both Power and Contact and 80+ in speed as Trout's diamond card has.
                                You know what Im done. In one thread you admit that you are over reacting and then just switch right back to everything sucks and anybody that disagrees is wrong. Just go ahead and be the president of your little "yeah but" club. Im out.

                                Its no wonder the Devs have pretty much vanished from OS except for a few pop ins.
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                                My heart and soul hurt for your lost presence in my life.

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