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  • Dolenz
    MVP
    • May 2014
    • 2056

    #76
    Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

    Originally posted by Bullit
    You know what Im done. In one thread you admit that you are over reacting and then just switch right back to everything sucks and anybody that disagrees is wrong. Just go ahead and be the president of your little "yeah but" club. Im out.


    Okay, bye.


    I don't see that admitting that I over-reacted in one aspect (the regression of all 99 players) negates the fact that no single archetype, on it's own, can match Trouts ratings in Contact, Power and Speed.


    Maybe you can play musical archetypes to achieve it but none of us know if that is feasible yet.

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    • Rob_NYY
      Jedi Master
      • Dec 2004
      • 2495

      #77
      Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

      Originally posted by Dolenz
      Trout like, but without proper equipment there is no Archetype that can reach both 90+ in both Power and Contact and 80+ in speed as Trout's diamond card has.
      That's why there is equipment. Choose the "Solid Option" type and use equipment to get his power and speed into the 90s.

      You can also use training to raise the caps on certain stats. They stated in the stream you can create a Trout-like player and showed how you can create a Trout-like player.

      Difference is, players will have to earn it by playing well and performing in the game, instead of just dumping points into categories.
      Last edited by Rob_NYY; 03-09-2018, 03:08 PM.

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      • Impetuous65
        MVP
        • Feb 2015
        • 1451

        #78
        Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

        Originally posted by Sayheykid01
        I can absolutely see why something like this would bother those of you who worked to get that 99 OVR player.

        I feel like I'm one of the few who has a rtts character that is maxed out and looking forward to the changes. I always felt like the mode should be way more of a grind than it was previously. I don't mind slowly progressing because that's typically how it works in the minors unless you're Mike Leake or someone on the fast track due to being ready from college.

        They probably should have made it an option because I could see this being a huge turn off for people who are 5-10 seasons into a player. I
        I'm with you, I don't mind the changes. I have a 99 RTTS player from 16 and 17 and I look forward to the changes. I have been to the mountain top Rookie of the year and MVP reg and postseason. I want to see me progress regresss through my stick skill instead of me piling on attribute points. I chose stick skill progression over artificial distribution of skills.

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        • underdog13
          MVP
          • Apr 2012
          • 3222

          #79
          Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

          Originally posted by BigOscar
          They showed them in the stream there are three SP and 2 closer ones. Essentially flamethrower and breaking ball specialists for both, plus a control one for SP.
          Damn I was hoping there would be a "smart pitcher" one, aka a pitcher with ok pitches but good /9's

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          • BigOscar
            MVP
            • May 2016
            • 2971

            #80
            Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

            Originally posted by underdog13
            Damn I was hoping there would be a "smart pitcher" one, aka a pitcher with ok pitches but good /9's

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            The control pitcher was a bit like that iirc, but it's tough with pitchers as don't some of the attributes not actually do anything if you're actually playing (HR/9)

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            • Woodweaver
              Developer
              • Apr 2006
              • 1145

              #81
              Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

              Originally posted by Jimmydm90
              I think the best option for the archetypes would have been to make them modular where you combine (say 3) archetypes together. You pick your fielder archetype (that only focuses on fielding attributes) out of a few options, your pick your hitter archetype (that only focuses on hitting attributes) and then you pick your archetype that covers the other miscellaneous stats. That way instead of being restricted to 5/6 types of players you basically can pick from a 100 or so different combinations. Then you'd be able to make the guy you want to make but you're still forced to be strategic.



              Alternatively you could keep archetypes as is and then get the option at the start of RTTS to push the max cap on one attribute of your choice up to 99.


              Who knows what the future could bring...multi class/archetypes...totally new archetypes. I am sure they will all come with their plusses and minuses.
              "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

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              • SandGropeR
                Rookie
                • Mar 2004
                • 144

                #82
                Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                If I have a guy in AAA and bring him into 18 will he be still in AAA? cause that way I can still develop but some of the hard grind is gone because as I have read others the thought of having to grind through the minors all over again doesn't appeal to me but it might be OK to start just below the Bigs and work my way into the show.

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                • Dolenz
                  MVP
                  • May 2014
                  • 2056

                  #83
                  Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                  Originally posted by SandGropeR
                  If I have a guy in AAA and bring him into 18 will he be still in AAA? cause that way I can still develop but some of the hard grind is gone because as I have read others the thought of having to grind through the minors all over again doesn't appeal to me but it might be OK to start just below the Bigs and work my way into the show.
                  If you carry a player over then he will be at whatever level he was in 17. If you were in AAA in 17 then you will be in AAA when you import him into 18

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                  • EnigmaNemesis
                    Animal Liberation
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 12216

                    #84
                    Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                    Originally posted by seasprite
                    I played a ton of RTTS and have for the last couple of years. I am happy with these caps and the new archtypes. Brings a bit of realism to it IMO.
                    These changes have me so pumped. It is the mode I most played in the past, and having not really played The Show this gen (or gaming in general, but I am back at it again after a long hiatus), it is going to feel super fresh to me.

                    Originally posted by BigOscar
                    It's hard to argue realism though when they also recently added the ability to slow down time like it's the Matrix!
                    It is optional.

                    On a side note, I would love to see the cyborg players who were able to scoop those hot shots as constantly as RL players in normal game speed.

                    Originally posted by Factzzz
                    Yeah this was more the direction I was hoping the mode would go.

                    Goals would make each year feel a little different, individual goals and team goals.

                    And then endorsements just make sense, especially with the agent, there should at least be equipment endorsements. Start off with like a Nike silver sponsorship, so you get all the silver equipment, then as you get better, you get paid more and get the gold nike equipment, then eventually diamond Nike equipment. Or some system like that.

                    More social media interaction with narratives of what's going on around the league, or if your player breaks a record or something.

                    There is a lot of directions this mode could've went, not sure i like this direction, although it will definitely make it more of a grind to get to the majors, so actually getting to the bigs will be more appreciated this year.
                    Completely agreed. It is sucking me right back in, and just pre-ordered the MVP Edition over the regular, mainly for the steelbook and themes.

                    Sad that I purchased 14 and 16 and never really played them due to very sporadic gaming this gen, and things that were going on in my life which kept me away.
                    Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 03-10-2018, 06:19 PM.
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                    • tessl
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5661

                      #85
                      Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                      I actually kind of sympathize with the devs. I exclusively play manage mode/franchise and therefore I want as much realism as possible.

                      The devs move away from arcade toward realism and they get push back.

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                      • Dolenz
                        MVP
                        • May 2014
                        • 2056

                        #86
                        Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                        Originally posted by tessl
                        I actually kind of sympathize with the devs. I exclusively play manage mode/franchise and therefore I want as much realism as possible.

                        The devs move away from arcade toward realism and they get push back.
                        I'd argue that hard caps are no more realistic than maxed out players. Neither is perfect but I am not sure that their is a perfect solution to be found between the two camps.

                        I don't mind the new Caps for new players. I was mostly concerned on how it affect carry over players.

                        For me though I have always considered RTTS as the easy to jump into almost arcade version of the game with Franchise being the most realistic. SDS really needs to try and cater to both the arcade players and sim players but it is not easy and doing so pretty much means that neither side will ever be completely happy.

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                        • SandGropeR
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 144

                          #87
                          Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                          Originally posted by Dolenz
                          If you carry a player over then he will be at whatever level he was in 17. If you were in AAA in 17 then you will be in AAA when you import him into 18
                          Did they say if whatever equipment your player has on him will come in as well? I am home sick and inbetween bouts of throwing up so my brain is mush so forgive the questions

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                          • Woodweaver
                            Developer
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 1145

                            #88
                            Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                            Originally posted by SandGropeR
                            Did they say if whatever equipment your player has on him will come in as well? I am home sick and inbetween bouts of throwing up so my brain is mush so forgive the questions


                            Yes to both questions.
                            "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

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                            • SandGropeR
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 144

                              #89
                              Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                              Thank you for the answer

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                              • R9NALD9
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 1268

                                #90
                                Re: MLB The Show 18 RTTS Twitch Stream Starting Now

                                Originally posted by Woodweaver
                                Who knows what the future could bring...multi class/archetypes...totally new archetypes. I am sure they will all come with their plusses and minuses.
                                How easy is it for you guys to add more archetypes and can this be done down the line with patches?

                                I'm asking as if you guys were to say add an archetype with all hard caps set to 99 you would immediately get rid of a lot of unhappiness, including mine, of players that enjoy the 99 rated GOAT players.

                                Also you can add more archetypes, maybe for a early 1st rounder type guy etc.
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