Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

[Dolenz]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

I never though I would see the dev of this game, go the gimic fantasy mode route,, but they have. I guess thats what kids want, and obviously its the younger generation, who they cater to, as Im sure there is abigger % of youngins, compared to us older adults playing these days. So I get it, your going to do what makes you the most money. And thats fine, I just dont have to buy, as there is a much bette and more realistic baseball experience in OOTP anyway, so if SCEA doesnt want to stick with simulation experience, then OOTP baseball, may get alot more business moving forward. We will see, but so far, I have not underwhelmed with lack of Franchise improvement. Considering we aint got many days before release, Id say, that tells us probably all we need to know, about how much they worked on Franchise mode.I will definitely be disappointed, if franchise mode has had much done to it. Im sure it will play great, MLBTS always does great at that aspect, so that I will miss, if I got to OOTP this yr, but it is what it is, I guess.

You do realize that even OOTP Baseball is adding a competitive online mode this summer called Perfect Team that will have some micro transactions included.

[da_centa_fielda]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

I'm not a fan of it and I wish other people weren't either. Well it's not even that. I just wish people wouldn't spend money in the mode. All devs see is $$$$$$. It's why other modes that we grew to love are suffering from lack of innovations year after year. They rather entice people to spend more money than give us proper updates to our favorite modes.

[Perfect Zero]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

I don't think it is the developers per se, but I think it is the whole of SCEA that sees the quick money in card modes. Diamond Dynasty gets the love because it a) makes money, and b) it has been well received overall by the Show fans. Wishing that it goes away is not an effective use of your time; these modes aren't going anywhere until demand for them dies down.

Right now you can either buy into Diamond Dynasty and play along, pout about the issue but still buy and enjoy the game, or simply skip this year and move on. Being upset about it though is really a waste of time, DD isn't going anywhere.

[JoshC1977]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

DD is the only card collecting mode I even dabble with (the EA ones are awful...you can't even play regulation length games on them and they cater the gameplay to arcadey style games). Even with the fact that some DD modes are 3 inning affairs (which actually ADD to the tactical challenge), the fundamental core gameplay we see in franchise mode remains intact.

[da_centa_fielda]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

I don't think it is the developers per se, but I think it is the whole of SCEA that sees the quick money in card modes. Diamond Dynasty gets the love because it a) makes money, and b) it has been well received overall by the Show fans. Wishing that it goes away is not an effective use of your time; these modes aren't going anywhere until demand for them dies down.

Right now you can either buy into Diamond Dynasty and play along, pout about the issue but still buy and enjoy the game, or simply skip this year and move on. Being upset about it though is really a waste of time, DD isn't going anywhere.

They love people like you with the "bend over and take it in the ***" attitude. Expressing your dislike for something isn't pouting. Isn't the point of forums like these is to express how you feel about a game? It's not even really about the mode going anywhere. We want our favorite modes to receive the same love. But they don't because the rest of the community is devalued in comparison.

[Formula1Racing]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

I see people saying that DD is like the old days of card collecting which kind of is, but really isn't. "Real Life" card collecting you get to keep them and hold them. They hold some value and you pass them along to your grandkids etc forever.

This DD and anything like it is a pure gambling scam. You get to play with digital cards that don't really hold any value but for the time of year you play with them. After that, the high is over until the next years game is out. All that $$$ you spent to get your gambling fix is done for that year. You can't keep them or transfer them to the next year's game or even trade them. They'll make another set of new player cards and the same cards for you to gamble on again and again for the next season.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

I see people saying that DD is like the old days of card collecting which is kind of is, but really isn't. "Real Life" card collecting you get to keep them and hold them. They hold some value and you pass them along to your grandkids etc forever.

This DD and anything like it is a pure gambling scam. You get to play with digital cards that don't really hold any value but for the time of year you play with them. After that, the high is over until the next years game is out. All that $$$ you spent to get your gambling fix is done for that year. You can't keep them or transfer them to the next year's game or even trade them. They'll make another set of new player cards and the same cards for you to gamble on again and again for the next season.

There are so many who do not spend a dime on stubs. So many.

And all gambling is a scam (and quite frankly entertainment for those who don't gamble what they can't afford to lose). Every kind, every form. So what? You can even go as far to say capitalism is one giant scam.....because taking risks is how this country was built.

**** socialism. Seriously.

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

All that $$$ you spent to get your gambling fix is done for that year.

I know this might put me in the minority of Diamond Dynasty players, but I have never spent a penny of actual money on anything DD related.

Granted, I really only play the offline Conquest mode, but I don't feel the need to shell out any more cash to get enjoyment from playing it.

[Dolenz]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

I know this might put me in the minority of Diamond Dynasty players, but I have never spent a penny of actual money on anything DD related.

Granted, I really only play the offline Conquest mode, but I don't feel the need to shell out any more cash to get enjoyment from playing it.

You're probably not in the minority.


I really feel that many non-DD people just really don't understand the mode that well. They have pre-conceived notions of what the mode is and that it is purely a monetized gameplay mode, never realizing that many never spend a penny beyond their initial purchase price and play the mode all year long.

[vertman]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

I know this might put me in the minority of Diamond Dynasty players, but I have never spent a penny of actual money on anything DD related.

Granted, I really only play the offline Conquest mode, but I don't feel the need to shell out any more cash to get enjoyment from playing it.

Exactly, I will never spend a dime on that stuff. I just enjoy the game itself and what I get as far as cards is what I stay with, no complaining. Most of my time is spent in franchise mode where no microtransactions are needed, just a good set of rosters and Armors sliders, both of which are free.

[Benz87]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

I'm in several FB MLB The Show groups with 30K+ members and they have polls covering which mode you enjoy the most. It's pretty much split between RTTS and DD, then online franchise, and regular franchise finishing last.

I'm a huge real-life baseball fan, as I watch almost every regular season Brewers game to some extent and think I have more baseball knowledge than the average person, yet I enjoy DD the most. I used to be a strictly Offline Franchise guy, but then I realized how competitive it is playing against other users online, that's a feeling and challenge you'l never get playing the CPU offline. You can always increase sliders, but then it's simply the CPU handicapping you and not necessarily playing the game better.

Being able to choose your own players and building your team style is really fun. DO you want to have high contact, high power, build off speed? It all bring DD together for me and makes it my most played mode.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

I'm in several FB MLB The Show groups with 30K+ members and they have polls covering which mode you enjoy the most. It's pretty much split between RTTS and DD, then online franchise, and regular franchise finishing last.

I'm a huge real-life baseball fan, as I watch almost every regular season Brewers game to some extent and think I have more baseball knowledge than the average person, yet I enjoy DD the most. I used to be a strictly Offline Franchise guy, but then I realized how competitive it is playing against other users online, that's a feeling and challenge you'l never get playing the CPU offline. You can always increase sliders, but then it's simply the CPU handicapping you and not necessarily playing the game better.

Being able to choose your own players and building your team style is really fun. DO you want to have high contact, high power, build off speed? It all bring DD together for me and makes it my most played mode.

It is really fun. I enjoy the heck out of it too. And I am a hardcore Franchise guy. But it is another flavor to team building and the card collecting is so much fun and big aspect of it.

[Perfect Zero]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

They love people like you with the "bend over and take it in the ***" attitude. Expressing your dislike for something isn't pouting. Isn't the point of forums like these is to express how you feel about a game? It's not even really about the mode going anywhere. We want our favorite modes to receive the same love. But they don't because the rest of the community is devalued in comparison.

I don't think you understand my post. I understand that people want to come on here and vent; I have zero problem with that. My point is that like it or not, DD is going to take up a large chunk of resources because that's where the money is.

[oilersfan99]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

I see people saying that DD is like the old days of card collecting which kind of is, but really isn't. "Real Life" card collecting you get to keep them and hold them. They hold some value and you pass them along to your grandkids etc forever.

This DD and anything like it is a pure gambling scam. You get to play with digital cards that don't really hold any value but for the time of year you play with them. After that, the high is over until the next years game is out. All that $$$ you spent to get your gambling fix is done for that year. You can't keep them or transfer them to the next year's game or even trade them. They'll make another set of new player cards and the same cards for you to gamble on again and again for the next season.

Why do people think that everyone who plays diamond dynasty drops money into it? There is so many ways to get cards that you don't need to spend any money. I played diamond dynasty most of the year, played hardly at all online and didn't spend a cent and have a very solid team that I enjoyed collecting over the course of the year. Not everyone who plays diamond dynasty drops money on it outside the cost of the game that everyone pays. Do a lot of people? Probably and to be honest with you, who cares if they do or not?

As far as collecting and having no real value, well it's good that to you it holds no value but to others that play the mode they do hold value. It's amazing to see so many people on either side pouring their opinion out and having no real data to back it up. Value to someone is relative. Just because something doesn't hold value to you doesn't mean it doesn't hold value for them as well.



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[MattP598]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

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I’ve been playing The Show for years. I’ve always loved it, I spend most of my time in Franchise mode while dabbling in RTTS every so often. I never even think about playing Diamond Dynasty for a second.

Now ever since games started having these game types like Diamond Dynasty (i.e. Ultimate Team) it’s never intrigued me. I tried it out at first, understood the concept, played it for a while, didn’t care for it so I left it alone. Never quite understood the popularity of it.

Now aside from these kind of game modes being such obvious cash grabs, are they really being so well received by fans of the game to let your main modes like RTTS and Franchise go by the waist side? Or even to the point now where the official way of playing tournament style is with teams formed in this game mode?

Now yes, this is sorta stemming from the announcement today of the “revamping” of Franchise mode, which turned out to be nothing more than simulating to certain points of the season and changing a couple of screens in the user interface.
Basically showing that they did absolutely nothing to the mode itself, while it being glaringly obvious they invested all their time to trying to beef up Diamond Dynasty.

It’s not just The Show either. Madden has even forgotten that Franchise and My Player are a thing and only focused on Ultimate Team and the horrendous Telltale-esque story mode. It just seems that developers that focus on these game types will let their quality of other modes suffer just for a few extra bucks, and I absolutely think it’s the worst business for game developers to practice.

Agree 1000000000%

True baseball fans aren't playing DD. They are playing franchise mode. For the most part... I know there are true baseball fans that don't have the time to invest in franchise. That should be the company's #1 priority, true baseball fans. Instead I think they are more worried about sales and getting people who maybe kind of like baseball to buy the game. You would think the designers are true baseball fans themselves. Are they not interested about improving their own experience?