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  • WhiteBunny
    Rookie
    • Oct 2014
    • 332

    #16
    Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

    In MLB 16 you can play All-Star difficulty and have a challenge without touching a single slider.
    In MLB 17 you need to bump the difficulty to HOF. The PCI is greater than 16.
    In MLB 18 you need to raise it on legend and play with pitch speed at 10. The PCI cover the whole screen ( lol ).

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    • nemesis04
      RIP Ty My Buddy
      • Feb 2004
      • 13530

      #17
      Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

      Its disconcerting that you have to max out the slider to achieve previous speeds. What's the answer for people who were already at 10? Every year they **** around with default set speed. They should leave it alone and expand the range instead of a range of 10.
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      • kehlis
        Moderator
        • Jul 2008
        • 27738

        #18
        Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

        Originally posted by nemesis04
        Its disconcerting that you have to max out the slider to achieve previous speeds. What's the answer for people who were already at 10? Every year they **** around with default set speed. They should leave it alone and expand the range instead of a range of 10.
        That's my issue. Increasing to Legend changes more than just the pitch speed. I've never been that great at hitting but I've always preferred as quick of a pitch as I can get.

        I can probably find a fit but don't really think increasing the difficulty should be the fix to maxing out the pitch speed. Quite honestly, I think the pitch speed (1-10) should be the exact same with the hitting level being variable.

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        • LowerWolf
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jun 2006
          • 12268

          #19
          Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

          I always play with it at 0. I struggled pulling fastballs last year but I can get around on them better this year.

          I’d rather they increase the range of the slider than just bump the speed up universally. Not all of us have quick reflexes. At 0 it should be slow and at 10 it should be damn near impossible.

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          • nemesis04
            RIP Ty My Buddy
            • Feb 2004
            • 13530

            #20
            Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

            Originally posted by kehlis
            That's my issue. Increasing to Legend changes more than just the pitch speed. I've never been that great at hitting but I've always preferred as quick of a pitch as I can get.

            I can probably find a fit but don't really think increasing the difficulty should be the fix to maxing out the pitch speed. Quite honestly, I think the pitch speed (1-10) should be the exact same with the hitting level being variable.
            That is why the range should increase, if the default speed did not increase by difficulty level then it would need to be stretched. Your right though, you should no have to increase in difficulty to get faster speeds.
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            • shark547
              Pro
              • Jun 2014
              • 666

              #21
              Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

              Honestly, I am super happy about pitch speed. I am old and have bad eyes. Couldn't play above veteran before. If they could make the slider 20 clicks instead of 10 then everyone could have fun. More user control would make everyone happy.

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              • hazelhood19
                Rookie
                • Apr 2009
                • 396

                #22
                Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

                The problem is, for all the people saying they’re glad it’s slower you always had the solution of lowering the slider. For the people that put it at 10, we have no way of getting what we want.

                I’ve been putting at 10 for the last few years and the speed has dramatically gone down each year. Unfortunately, this doesn’t seem like something they would patch either.


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                • nemesis04
                  RIP Ty My Buddy
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 13530

                  #23
                  Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

                  Originally posted by hazelhood19
                  The problem is, for all the people saying they’re glad it’s slower you always had the solution of lowering the slider. For the people that put it at 10, we have no way of getting what we want.

                  I’ve been putting at 10 for the last few years and the speed has dramatically gone down each year. Unfortunately, this doesn’t seem like something they would patch either.


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                  I don't think it would be out of the realm of possibility in regards to adjusting the default speeds for the different difficulty levels in a patch. They have done tuning patches. The bigger issue is convincing them it needs to changed.
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                  • Houston
                    MVP
                    • May 2003
                    • 4724

                    #24
                    Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

                    Originally posted by hazelhood19
                    The problem is, for all the people saying they’re glad it’s slower you always had the solution of lowering the slider. For the people that put it at 10, we have no way of getting what we want.

                    I’ve been putting at 10 for the last few years and the speed has dramatically gone down each year. Unfortunately, this doesn’t seem like something they would patch either.


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                    They actually can and have adjusted the throttle on the pitch speed in the past.
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                    • Bochte23
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 114

                      #25
                      Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

                      Originally posted by underdog13
                      It's better this way, better for online play. Offline you can turn the sliders up.

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                      turning the sliders up does not help. Still very slow, and I am not a speed freak or anything. It's just the way it is now, the fastballs are more of a changeup, and the changeups are eephus-like.
                      Last edited by Bochte23; 03-26-2018, 08:00 PM.

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                      • bcruise
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 23274

                        #26
                        Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

                        This is actually a really interesting and contentious topic. There's a pretty big thread over on TSN about it too.

                        There are two points that make figuring out what to do here a little murky (the first focuses more on online play defaults since all settings must be equal there):

                        1) People who have televisions with slower response times are more able to play the game now with the default pitch speeds lowered. In that thread I mentioned there's quite a few people claiming exactly that - that they're having a better experience with this year's game. Of course, others that play on a PC monitor or other device with a fast response time are finding it too easy, and perhaps more importantly that it decreases the skill gap between players. This is the dilemma SDS finds itself in - how do you make the game playable for everyone, but still maintain the game's competitiveness?

                        2) This is speculation because we haven't actually had it spelled out to us, but I believe the timing and/or PCI placement windows have been tightened this year. I think that was some of the "hitting engine" changes they made. With a smaller window to make solid contact, you have to be that much more precise with your input to have good results - significantly more than in previous versions, IMO. On HOF through the first few days of playing, I do find it easier to make contact - but also harder to make solid contact. So, my results aren't really coming out that much differently from previous years even though the pitches seem slower. I'm still getting between 5-10 hits a game in most games, and seeing extra base hits, walks, and strikeouts.

                        Just some thoughts on the situation. I don't really have an answer either way - but I do feel like it's a little too soon to be making drastic changes to the pitch speed.

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52728

                          #27
                          Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

                          For me, it seems that pitch speed is faster after today's patch. Before when I had the sliders maxed it felt like '16 which I thought was really good. Now playing after the patch, the ball seems to be sped up.
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                          • Skyboxer
                            Donny Baseball!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 20302

                            #28
                            Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            For me, it seems that pitch speed is faster after today's patch. Before when I had the sliders maxed it felt like '16 which I thought was really good. Now playing after the patch, the ball seems to be sped up.
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                            • prestwood90
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 1253

                              #29
                              Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              For me, it seems that pitch speed is faster after today's patch. Before when I had the sliders maxed it felt like '16 which I thought was really good. Now playing after the patch, the ball seems to be sped up.
                              Haven't played today so I am glad to hear that, hopefully it isn't placebo

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                              • LowerWolf
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jun 2006
                                • 12268

                                #30
                                Re: Thoughts on pitch speed slider

                                Originally posted by hazelhood19
                                The problem is, for all the people saying they’re glad it’s slower you always had the solution of lowering the slider. For the people that put it at 10, we have no way of getting what we want.
                                People who find it fast at 0 have no way of getting what they want either.

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