I’ve tried every method of warming up pitchers that I can, and they still come in without full energy. I’ve tried stretch and toss, then warm up; I’ve tried warming up with no stretch and toss; I’ve tried using ready and waiting when they’re about 2/3 warm; I’ve tried scheduling to put them in the game when they’re in the bullpen...nothing works. It really seems to be down to luck. If the inning you batted before the pitcher comes in isn’t too long, he might have full energy. Is there a warmup method that I’m missing that gives them full energy when they come in?
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Re: What is the “correct” way to warm up pitchers?
Ok so let’s say you want to warm up your closer for the 9th. I’d say stretch and toss with him as soon as you put your set up man in, in the 8th. Then after he gets an out, go to the bullpen, select warm up, then select mound visit to buy him some time. Then finish the inning with the setup man. In the bottom of the 8th, when there’s one out check to see if he’s hot. If he is then select ready and waiting. If he isn’t keep warming him up. If you follow this he should be full hot, if not close to being hot. If he’s close just throw the 8 warmup pitches you get in the beginning of the inning and then he’ll be ready to shove. Hope this helped!
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Remember that you might be looking at his overall "readiness" based on his workload.
If you have pitched a reliever for the past three days, you might get him warm for his trip out to the bump, but his overall energy level might be hindered, as he is just tired and worn out for the days prior.
I am not sure if this is what you are talking about, but it might be your guys just need a day off or two to recover, and then their energy should regenerate so they are at full strength.
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As long as they're red/Orange when you put them in (in terms of readiness, not energy level) they'll perform the same
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So, what is stretch & toss for?OSFM23 - Building Better Baseball - OSFM23
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You're supposed to warm up the pitcher?
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You definitely don't want to bring a pitcher in who has just "Stretched and Tossed", but I use stretch and toss all the time to keep them loose in case I need them quickly because it won't take as long for them to get full warmed up.
Example: let say I am hoping to get one more inning out of my starter, but I also want to make sure that I can replace him with a fresh arm if he runs into trouble. When I start the inning I will have a reliever stretch and toss and if the starter is successfully able to get through the inning , then I will only instruct the reliever to warm up when I am up to bat. However if the starter gets into trouble I could already have a reliever half warmed up and it won't take as long to get him fully warm. Also relievers who are stretching and tossing won't tire while they are in the bullpen. But if a reliever is warming up and you forget him for an inning or two, then he will begin to tire.Comment
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I don't know if it has been proven, but I'm pretty sure if you have your reliever in the Bullpen 'Warming up' too much in a game, they start to lose stamina. Or at least this seems to be the case. That's where 'Stretch and Toss' and 'Ready and Waiting' come in.
If I get a reliever up in a "just in case" situation, and don't think I'll actually need him, I'll use 'Stretch and Toss' until I see reason to actually warm him up. Good for long relievers in case your starter starts getting in trouble early but you want to give him a chance to work out of it. Or good for closers in non-save situations where you don't trust the guy you put out there to finish the 9th inning without some drama.
For 'Ready and Waiting', once he gets to 3/4 ready or above, setting him to this will allow him to get to 100% ready but you won't take a risk of him starting to tire if it ends up being a long time before you actually bring him in and use him. Good to use for your closer if you are getting him ready the inning before.Comment
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I agree with pretty much everything said above. Just want to add one or two more points.
You're relievers don't need to be 100% warm to bring them in. They can be effective at 3/4 warm as HypoLuxa13 states. But there is a pattern I have observed over time in MLB The Show series going back several years but it also repeats in this years game and it happens in many different gaming modes. So what is it? Even when relievers have been sufficiently warmed up to 100%, their first 1-2 pitches are often outside of strike zone. It does not happen all the time, but it happens more often than not. I have seen this in my MoM games (both my team and the opposition), I have seen it in CPU vs CPU games and I am also seeing it in the RTTS games I have been playing lately.
PS: if you leave relievers "Warming Up" in the bullpen for more than an inning or two they will begin to tire whereas they will not tire when they stretch and toss. I know I have forgotten relievers and when I go back in a couple of innings later you will see they have tired a bit and unless you are desperate for an arm, you really need to sit them for the rest of the game.Comment
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dont tell Manfred but after getting a reliever up to throw,
I usually just call a mound conference, find out where the guys are eating that night,
ask 'em if they've seen the chick in the 3rd row, then bring in the reliever.OSFM23 - Building Better Baseball - OSFM23
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This and the quick manage trick are pretty much the only way to guarantee your reliever doesn't come in with missing energy. Kind of sad that players get punished for doing it the right way.
PS the quick manage trick is to never warm up your relievers. When you want a new pitcher in, just pop into quick manage mode and bring in the new reliever. Pop back out and voila, perfectly warmed up reliever with no energy loss.Comment
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I've never once used anything but "Warm Up"Comment
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