Getting picked off CONSTANTLY

[Rmiok222]

I scrolled through the threads and I’m kinda surprised this hasn’t been brought up (I didn’t see if it was) but does anybody other than myself get picked off like once a game? Pitcher will throw over and my runner will just stand there like a deer in headlights before going back to the bag and getting picked. Any suggestions?


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[Herschie]

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I hear you. What I did was move the CPU pickoff frequency slider to 0. I'm assuming you may have tried that. So I don't get picked off as often. Other than that, never take more than a 1-step lead if they have someone holding the runner on, 2 steps if they're not. I think the steal ability slider also plays a factor into whether or not he gets back in time, but I'm not sure.

Bout all I can tell you, bud. Been this way for years.

[My993C2]

Re: Getting picked off CONSTANTLY

I scrolled through the threads and I’m kinda surprised this hasn’t been brought up (I didn’t see if it was) but does anybody other than myself get picked off like once a game? Pitcher will throw over and my runner will just stand there like a deer in headlights before going back to the bag and getting picked. Any suggestions?


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I hold the left analog button all the way to the left until the pitcher starts throwing to the plate and you will never be picked off. You can even take the extra step and as long as you continue to hold the button to the left you won't get picked off. However with that said, this has hampered my ability to steal bases.

[Bochte23]

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you are taking too big of a lead. If you do get caught try running towards 2nd, then back to first right away after the first baseman throws to second.

[Caulfield]

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Does this happen when you go against Jon Lester too? 😊

[BigOscar]

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Yeah the computer has some weird cheat to pick you off bizarrely frequently. Play against another human and with a one(extra) step lead you can probably throw over 50 times and they'll dive back in safe almost every time, but the computer will nail you about 1/3 it seems. It was like that last year and it's pretty frustrating, but there's not a whole lot you can do about it.

[jada855]

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Yeah this is all unfortunately true a fundamental that has plagued the game for a long time. Holding the left stick is the answer unfortunately!

Also if you hold L1 it will go into that horrible standing on one knee pose animation. It's similar to holding the left analog stick but you can test your reflexes a bit and make it slightly more challenging!

It's been to many years with the series for me! The game is fun and has some high points.

I am not a developer but I just feel some of the core baseball fundamentals of the game got neglected as the series continued on. Now at this point in the series I am just realizing it is what it is!

[TheWarmWind]

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I almost never take an extra step when stealing 2nd. I still get plenty of steals.

[AUTiger1]

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I almost never take an extra step when stealing 2nd. I still get plenty of steals.

I always had 1 step to my lead from the default and rarely get thrown out at 2nd and almost never get picked off 1st. It's when I try to get a 2 step lead that I risk getting picked off. Also, I put the pickoffs slider all the way to 0 because it's ridiculous when the pitcher throws over like 8 times in a row.

[Bunselpower32]

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This is a really unrealistic part of the game. If a guy is a good base stealer, he is good at reading pickoff moves. So generally, if a guy doesn't get picked off the first time, he won't be picked off period because he's seen it and knows how much room he has.

However in this game, it (seems like it) is a roll of the dice each time if you have an extra step. The CPU just does it 8 times and there's a decent chance one will work. They can throw over 7 times and the runner gets back but then all of a sudden, the 8th time he completely misses it and gets picked? Never going to happen. But this is a limitation.

The best chance should occur on the first throw and the dive in should be varied more than out/safe (literally, there are two options).

But this is what happens when there is no pickoff rating (which there should be). It should make the move quicker and more effective.

[Caulfield]

Re: Getting picked off CONSTANTLY

This is a really unrealistic part of the game. If a guy is a good base stealer, he is good at reading pickoff moves. So generally, if a guy doesn't get picked off the first time, he won't be picked off period because he's seen it and knows how much room he has.

However in this game, it (seems like it) is a roll of the dice each time if you have an extra step. The CPU just does it 8 times and there's a decent chance one will work. They can throw over 7 times and the runner gets back but then all of a sudden, the 8th time he completely misses it and gets picked? Never going to happen. But this is a limitation.


The best chance should occur on the first throw and the dive in should be varied more than out/safe (literally, there are two options).


But this is what happens when there is no pickoff rating (which there should be). It should make the move quicker and more effective.

I wonder if arm accuracy affects pickoff prowess. I know I've seen a few pitchers with the pickoff artist perk. Though I do know a few perks remain unattached to attributes.

[TripleCrown]

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no rating and other than a perk for a few of them, no way to know who’s good or bad.

There’s a suggestion i made few years ago is with L1 button to take smaller increase steps. If you look at speedy guys IRL, they slowly increase their lead, 2-3-4, sometimes 5 little steps. Not a “oh by god i pushed my luck” giant one.

That way it would be a more fun cat & mouse game for us.

[capa]

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There def is something wonky in the AI pickoff logic. I've tested this a bit. It does seem they have a "heightened awareness" of when you are about to steal.

I've tested it by going through half a game without attempting a steal and then having a rather slow runner on first and selecting to steal. Sure enough, the pitcher will throw over more times than not. Not all the time, but enough to think, "hmmm...why did that just happen?" And this is without an extended secondary lead.

Something is amiss...they should look at this and tweak the logic a bit.

C

[KBLover]

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I wonder if arm accuracy affects pickoff prowess. I know I've seen a few pitchers with the pickoff artist perk. Though I do know a few perks remain unattached to attributes.

Arm strength might as well but even then, the move itself shouldn't be as quick.

Or do you mean that if pickoff rating + arm + runner lead = "I got you" then the game just renders a fast pick off move and slow reacting runner to emulate the pickoff?

Meaning that the pitcher doesn't necessarily have an elite move but it's just how the graphics engine renders the play?

[Culture Rot]

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Is the things still in the game where you take too far of a league and the game freezes you into a slow mo so that you can't dive back in time even if you huttjng the buttons for 5 seconds prior