Re: Strike zone

[KBLover]

Re: Strike zone

again, true to life. Guys who are consistently around the zone, and who hit their spots, causing catcher's gloves to not move much tend to get calls IRL. A smart pitcher like a Greg Maddux would start on the black, then move another inch or two off every once in awhile until by inning seven he was hitting 6 inches off the plate and getting every call. Umpires often ump to expectations.

Would Maddux have a high K/9 rating? He got his share of K's but I wouldn't imagine he'd get a 80-90 type rating. Probably 60 to maybe 70.

High H/9, BB/9 and HR/9 for sure. In fact, I would think what you describe would be as much BB/9 and pitch Control (establish that he could paint the black) more than anything else.

[RainOnTim]

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I think like others are saying, there's a lot that goes into weather borderline pitches get called one way or another. The pitcher's stats, the type of pitch, the count, the accuracy of the pitch, etc. It's really hard to know how much a call is JUST affected by the Ump's tendencies without controlling for all of these things.

Ump tendency is one of the things to think about when picking a pitch or deciding when to swing, but it's almost never the main thing.

[Bunselpower32]

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Umpires can have a tendency on calls but still miss them. that's what I see. If I have a guy that calls low and high, it doesn't mean he won't give the corners, but he'll be less likely.

That's what I generally see. I'll get consistent calls one way, but I'll throw two pitches and they'll go each way. And that I love.

I also find it ironic that your name is Baseball Purist, and you basically want to take the human element out of the game. Have you watched Angel Hernandez call a game? That guy will look at two identical pitches and call them differently.

[Detroit Tigers]

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Went with the option for “league average” this year after spending years on the personalized one. Really like it. Some bad calls, some “good” calls, but it never rubs me the wrong way.

Played on “perfect” a game or two last year and it felt much too sterile and static.


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[51shergie]

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Anyone else feel like we should pick our battles and that this is absolutely something people shouldnt complain about?

Anyone else not know there are 3 different options to choose from in terms of umps calling balls/strikes?

To not just choose 1 of the 3 but instead come here to complain about the 1 option that isn’t exactly the way you want it is petty.

“The umpires inconsistencies isn’t consistent enough”

“Hey start a thread”

“Yea!”

Im just pissed this game wont make me a sandwich 🥪 when i want.

Theres not even a setting for it!

“Start a thread”

[Ghost Of The Year]

Re: Strike zone

Anyone else feel like we should pick our battles and that this is absolutely something people shouldnt complain about?

Anyone else not know there are 3 different options to choose from in terms of umps calling balls/strikes?

To not just choose 1 of the 3 but instead come here to complain about the 1 option that isn’t exactly the way you want it is petty.

“The umpires inconsistencies isn’t consistent enough”

“Hey start a thread”

“Yea!”

Im just pissed this game wont make me a sandwich 🥪 when i want.

Theres not even a setting for it!

“Start a thread”

This is a legitimate thread topic or it would have been locked. The OP has a point, he just needs a push in the right direction so he can come to terms with why it is what it is. You can't learn if you don't have the conversation to begin with.

[Speedy]

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Strike zones in real life are inconsistent. One AB, I’ll find myself laughing at my own luck, and others, it’s cursing it. The Umps in this game have varying strike zones, which I absolutely love.


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I'm curious what "MLB Average" is...anybody use that setting?

Does that just call a ball/strike according to whether it's "normally" a ball/strike in real life? Is there any variance? So if I throw a pitch on the corner, will it always be a ball or strike or according to a % that it's called a ball/strike in real life?

[toodles2you90]

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I feel like there should be a pitch framing slider for catchers or some kind of reputation system that makes the elite catchers ability to get strike calls different from the lesser catchers. Everyone knows guys like Yadi get more calls than other catchers do and they need to somehow implement that into the game in my opinion.

[51shergie]

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There are 3 options to choose from which tells me they thought:

“hmmm, We want to add some realism and we really like this umpire differentiation that we put in the game, but uh oh, how can we make sure to keep everyone happy that may not enjoy this and get frustrated? let’s just give them the option to turn it off like it’s been for every baseball game that’s ever been. Then someone said but wait a minute let’s go even a step further for people exactly like the original poster, and create a third setting that will be “exactly-unexact” so that people won’t say later the game is scripted and rigged because I struck out on a pitch way out of the zone and my opponent got the same pitch and it was a ball“

Lol I am all for sharing of problems but what else do we want them to do? Is this really an issue that we want to trickle back to the developers where they see this and say let’s spend some time fixing that? Lol

They could just simply remove that feature. It’s a bonus, it’s extra. It’s like complaining that the wrong color bat/barrel ring shows up when i choose a blue handle/light brown barrel Louisville slugger. The ring should be a really light cream color, not white. Gosh! Is it amateur hour over there?!


This was designed and intended to add some comic relief, not to piss anyone off or belittle them so please don’t take it that way. Lol. Read it again but laugh this time. 😂

[p00p1]

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I've been curious about the league average strike zone too. Is it a consistent zone? Is there any variation? They added the option and gave no description.

[Bunselpower32]

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I've been curious about the league average strike zone too. Is it a consistent zone? Is there any variation? They added the option and gave no description.

If I'm not mistaken, it's just an average of all the umpires, i.e., the same chance to have strikes and balls on each side of the strikezone (in, out, high, and low).

I feel like there should be a pitch framing slider for catchers or some kind of reputation system that makes the elite catchers ability to get strike calls different from the lesser catchers. Everyone knows guys like Yadi get more calls than other catchers do and they need to somehow implement that into the game in my opinion.

I also think pitchers should get it too. Jon Lester can throw balls 6 inches outside and get calls. It's absolutely ridiculous, but it happens. Tom Glavine made a career out of getting bad calls.

That combined with a Call Game rating would be marvelous.

[phenom1990]

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https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show-last-gen/311112-clyde-cross-eyed-washington.html

10 years of MLB The Show and Cross Eyed Clyde is just as bad now as he was in 2009. I thought you were suppose to improve with experience. I posted the original thread above for humor purposes.

His strike zone left me scratching my head a couple times in my Phillies franchise opening series. He also made a terrible call at 1st in that series.

I know there have been plenty of threads about the umpires over the years but I always remember this one for when I started to notice Clyde Washington stinking up the joint. So I wanted to acknowledge this as an ode to 10 iterations of Clyde Washington frustrating us all.

Countryboy, has anyone else surpassed Cross Eyed Clyde for you?

[countryboy]

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No Clyde Washington is still the king of incompetence. I cringe when I see he is behind the plate and know that its going to be a journey on the mound and at the plate.

It's amazing that for 10 years now, Clyde has been the Angel Hernandez of the MLB The Show.

[NYJin2011tm]

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Woody Keller has been irking me lately!

[SmashMan]

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No Clyde Washington is still the king of incompetence. I cringe when I see he is behind the plate and know that its going to be a journey on the mound and at the plate.

It's amazing that for 10 years now, Clyde has been the Angel Hernandez of the MLB The Show.

Dave Lawrence is right up there. Can't throw anything borderline away from right-handed hitters (or in to lefties) because dumb Dave just doesn't give you calls on that side of the plate.