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  • BBallBryan23
    Rookie
    • Aug 2012
    • 117

    #1

    Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

    I hope many of you can sympathize with me here, but it seems like 4-5 times a game when I am pitching, I'll get locked into a hitter who will foul off any pitch I throw to him. It is absolutely maddening because 1.) I have the foul ball slider turned all the way down, and 2.) I am a busy guy who doesn't have that much time to play games with 15-20 extra unnecessary pitches because the game decides to predetermine when a CPU hitter will foul off pitch after pitch.

    Does anyone else have this problem and/or does anyone have any suggestions of how to help this other than what I'm already doing?

    I understand this happens often in baseball and is a big part of the game, but enough is enough here lol.
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  • shark547
    Pro
    • Jun 2014
    • 666

    #2
    Re: Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

    I am with you! Always seems like there is one at bat a game that goes at least 10 pitches. I had the worst one a couple weeks ago. 19 pitches. I finally struck him out.

    I am not sure if it has to do with difficulty levels or what the deal is there.

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    • BlacknBlue
      Rookie
      • Dec 2015
      • 317

      #3
      Re: Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

      I don’t mind that it happens as much as I do that it feels so forced and predetermined to occur. Like some algorithm kicks in and all of the sudden the game has to do this.

      The worst part is when the cpu will swing at all of those pitches and spoil them, but put one on a border that he should swing at just to defend the plate and they’ll take it and you never get the called 3rd strike.

      These are the same types of at bats where people give up that late game dinger and call it comeback code.

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      • SmashMan
        All Star
        • Dec 2004
        • 9712

        #4
        Re: Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

        I don't have a set number of pitches in mind, but if I feel like it's going to be one of those at-bats I just hit the guy and get the next one to ground out.

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        • KBLover
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2009
          • 12172

          #5
          Re: Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

          Originally posted by BBallBryan23
          1.) I have the foul ball slider turned all the way down
          Foul frequency is mostly for those "borderline" swings with how close to the edge they can be and still produce a fair ball (or contact at all). If a swing is "clearly foul", it's just going to be foul. Likewise if it's "clearly fair".

          I have at 0 for both sides also and get these kinds of "grinder" PAs sometimes - both for/against me.

          Originally posted by BBallBryan23
          Does anyone else have this problem and/or does anyone have any suggestions of how to help this other than what I'm already doing?

          Most of the time I start throwing significantly out of the zone away, in, or up (down, too, if no one on base...don't want to risk a WP otherwise and pitches in the dirt are more likely). Either he'll chase something and strike out, I'll (accidentally) hit him, or it becomes an "unintentional intentional walk" and I'm done with him in less pitches, trading pitches saved for a walk.

          And if he happens to get a hit/put it in play somehow, that's fine, too.
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          • Caulfield
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 10986

            #6
            Re: Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

            If you're playing with contact slider @ default 5, try bumping it down a notch to 4. But, even if you don't have time for an extra 20 pitches, that's baseball and occasionally you are going to see a 10-plus pitch AB
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            • shark547
              Pro
              • Jun 2014
              • 666

              #7
              Re: Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

              Originally posted by Caulfield
              If you're playing with contact slider @ default 5, try bumping it down a notch to 4. But, even if you don't have time for an extra 20 pitches, that's baseball and occasionally you are going to see a 10-plus pitch AB
              I think the issue is that it happens too often. You can pretty much tell when it is going to happen 4 pitches in.

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              • kaptainkarl76
                Rookie
                • Mar 2010
                • 336

                #8
                Re: Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

                For me it's usually 2 quick outs followed by a marathon 10-12 pitch at-bat that either winds up in a hit or a walk..

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                • Detroit Tigers
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 1376

                  #9
                  Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

                  Just depends on the hitter and situation really. If the game is not particularly close for instance, or if it’s a really good hitter, I won’t waste my time (or my pitch count), I’ll just put him on. If it’s more a big spot, it’s not “predictable” at all imo, it’s just a battle. Happens all the time irl.
                  Just one man’s opinion.
                  I don’t actually care about any of this.

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                  • jeffy777
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3322

                    #10
                    Re: Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

                    Originally posted by BBallBryan23
                    I understand this happens often in baseball and is a big part of the game, but enough is enough here lol.

                    I think we'd be complaining more if this didn't happen.

                    I know what you mean though. It does feel forced at times.

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                    • KBLover
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 12172

                      #11
                      Re: Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

                      Originally posted by jeffy777
                      I think we'd be complaining more if this didn't happen.

                      I know what you mean though. It does feel forced at times.

                      I know I would be.

                      Sometimes innings breeze by fast enough when IRL they take about 16 pitches on average.

                      A lot of times, I don't see these long battles.
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                      • BBallBryan23
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 117

                        #12
                        Re: Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

                        Originally posted by BlacknBlue
                        I don’t mind that it happens as much as I do that it feels so forced and predetermined to occur. Like some algorithm kicks in and all of the sudden the game has to do this.

                        The worst part is when the cpu will swing at all of those pitches and spoil them, but put one on a border that he should swing at just to defend the plate and they’ll take it and you never get the called 3rd strike.

                        These are the same types of at bats where people give up that late game dinger and call it comeback code.
                        Exactly. It's like you can tell a couple pitches into the at-bat that this is going to happen and you know a 10-pitch AB is coming. That's the most annoying thing, how it's predetermined.
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                        • BBallBryan23
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 117

                          #13
                          Re: Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

                          Originally posted by KBLover
                          Foul frequency is mostly for those "borderline" swings with how close to the edge they can be and still produce a fair ball (or contact at all). If a swing is "clearly foul", it's just going to be foul. Likewise if it's "clearly fair".

                          I have at 0 for both sides also and get these kinds of "grinder" PAs sometimes - both for/against me.




                          Most of the time I start throwing significantly out of the zone away, in, or up (down, too, if no one on base...don't want to risk a WP otherwise and pitches in the dirt are more likely). Either he'll chase something and strike out, I'll (accidentally) hit him, or it becomes an "unintentional intentional walk" and I'm done with him in less pitches, trading pitches saved for a walk.

                          And if he happens to get a hit/put it in play somehow, that's fine, too.
                          Thanks for the input. That does make it a little bit more clear for me. I guess I've just been too stubborn to hit the batter or intentionally walk him, but in the future, especially if there are 1 or 2 outs and no one is on base, the simple solution might just be to put him on base and focus on the next hitter.
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                          • BBallBryan23
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 117

                            #14
                            Re: Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

                            Originally posted by Caulfield
                            If you're playing with contact slider @ default 5, try bumping it down a notch to 4. But, even if you don't have time for an extra 20 pitches, that's baseball and occasionally you are going to see a 10-plus pitch AB
                            I actually have the CPU contact slider on 4, but I bumped it down to 3 last night and I'm curious to see if this helps without sacrificing the rest of the CPU balls put in play.
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                            • saucerset
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 482

                              #15
                              Re: Enough with the predictable foul balls!!!

                              Usually a FB high and inside gets strike 3.

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