MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

[taterskin]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

LOL I love this forum. Both Shownation and Reddit have a fairly optimistic and excited outlook on this patch as it directly addresses things the community has been asking for. They also go through the trouble to try and balance online and offline games separately(what other developer does that?) Yet here on OS its negativity as usual lol.

I'm excited to get in and try these changes, looking at the examples they gave I'm afraid they didn't change the PCI size enough to make the fastball a viable pitch again but we'll see.

Not sure where exactly you see all the optimism at shownation....but I can show you 10 posts to every 1 that are negative vs. positive. I can't stand to even hardly go into the forums over there because every thread is about how bad the game sucks. Operation Sports is 10X more positive on most topics with only a handful of people going overboard with negativity.

[BigOscar]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

LOL I love this forum. Both Shownation and Reddit have a fairly optimistic and excited outlook on this patch as it directly addresses things the community has been asking for. They also go through the trouble to try and balance online and offline games separately(what other developer does that?) Yet here on OS its negativity as usual lol.

I'm excited to get in and try these changes, looking at the examples they gave I'm afraid they didn't change the PCI size enough to make the fastball a viable pitch again but we'll see.

It's not surprising though considered the player bases of the different forums. This forum is primarily offline players, whose main focus is "don't break our game with your online obsession". Reddit and Shownation area almost entirely online players who couldn't care less if they got rid of franchise mode entirely if they got anther legend card in DD. So obviously patches are viewed differently on the different forums

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

It's not surprising though considered the player bases of the different forums. This forum is primarily offline players, whose main focus is "don't break our game with your online obsession". Reddit and Shownation area almost entirely online players who couldn't care less if they got rid of franchise mode entirely if they got anther legend card in DD. So obviously patches are viewed differently on the different forums

Far too much assumption though here all the time.

Thus far nothing has ruined 18 in terms of patches. I am playing right now.

Game is as good as ever.

Too much jumping to broad based conclusions before anyone even plays the game. And a post by someone (not you) who "sat out the game this year” stirring the freaking pot.

Ridiculous.

[TheWarmWind]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

This all looks like it won't effect me as an offline only directional hitter.

Dang, every patch I hope for those Blue Jay alternate caps (and the St Louis ones as well), but overall I'm thankful SDS has considered the offline community instead of just forcing the changes for online on us.

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[wisdom less13]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

I'm mainly an offline franchise guy, but once in a while I will play some DD to mix it up. I also love collecting the cards. I always felt the PCI was too big online. Should lead to more hit variety, in theory. What the hell do I know? I'm just speculating. Going to play this game all year regardless...

[KBLover]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

This all looks like it won't effect me as an offline only directional hitter.

The PCI changes might?

I don't know about the whole max distance part since I don't know if that's a factor in how the CPU or Directional moves the PCI.

But the smaller PCI could. That applied across all modes according to the notes.

We'll see. Might need some foul frequency tuning I suppose.

Hopefully not. I had no real differences for 1.09 and if my PS4 installed this overnight, I'll get the chance to see soon.

[KnightTemplar]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

But the smaller PCI could. That applied across all modes according to the notes.

We'll see. Might need some foul frequency tuning I suppose.

I'm already confused (nothing new. ). If this doesn't affect off line why would we need to tune foul frequency? You can't tune foul frequency when you play on line, correct? Doesn't the notes refer to online???

[KBLover]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

I'm already confused (nothing new. ). If this doesn't affect off line why would we need to tune foul frequency? You can't tune foul frequency when you play on line, correct? Doesn't the notes refer to online???

One change was only to two player/online.

The other change said it applied to all modes. I assume that means offline modes as well?

"Slightly smaller PCI coverage, affecting weak hits and tip fouls. Does not affect solid region of the PCI. This change affects all modes."

[RidinDwnKingsley]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

Umm, so you're making the game less "sim" to cater to online folks (probably DD)? Gotcha.

Sad.... really sad that they can’t differentiate gameplay sim and online yet.... lets face it the offline players especially franchise are not part of SCEA’s concern. The rosters from day 1 have showed that. In all the years I have been working on the rosters for this game I have never seen such a lazy and yes I have to say it but lazy effort. When roster creators have to make over 100 players that SHOULD be in but aren’t amongst all the other errors.... I know this patch isn’t about that but it’s just the way the offline players are getting overlooked in just about every way..... it’s all about $$$ like everything else I get that but I don’t wanna hear how they are lovers of the game of baseball because I’m not seeing it,taking sim elements away shows that, it’s a business and that’s what they are catering to. Very disappointing.


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[BigOscar]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

Sad.... really sad that they can’t differentiate gameplay sim and online yet.... lets face it the offline players especially franchise are not part of SCEA’s concern. The rosters from day 1 have showed that. In all the years I have been working on the rosters for this game I have never seen such a lazy and yes I have to say it but lazy effort. When roster creators have to make over 100 players that SHOULD be in but aren’t amongst all the other errors.... I know this patch isn’t about that but it’s just the way the offline players are getting overlooked in just about every way..... it’s all about $$$ like everything else I get that but I don’t wanna hear how they are lovers of the game of baseball because I’m not seeing it,taking sim elements away shows that, it’s a business and that’s what they are catering to. Very disappointing.


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Yup, for me the thing that most accurately shows just how little time or thought goes into offline rosters, particularly for franchise mode, is the players potential ratings. They have stayed the same for literally 3 years and many are game breakingly out of date (Jose Ramirez 79, Kyle Baraclough 68 etc). It would take them literally 20 minutes to update them, yet they either just play the mode so little that they haven't noticed, or they care so little that they can't be bothered. Meanwhile DD gets updated every other week.

Honestly mate this game would be in so much trouble if it wasn't for the work you guys do and frankly it's pretty depressing that Franchise mode is worked on more by the community than by the people paid to make the game.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

Its seems clear to me that the only thing that states will not affect single player is Hit Types based on user input instead of tendencies in two player games.. Seems like all other PCI changes, with the exception of the special modes listed at the end, will affect everyone. Ive read it several times and i don't see any user these changes (whether minor or not) might not affect. It could be a very positive thing for all i know.

But PCI changes probably even affect directional, not just zone i think. Every mode, even CPU uses the PCI, so it seems everyone (not just zone) will see at least some effect, on the size at least - in order to make the game at least little more focused on user input than attributes/player tendencies.

Im not a negative person, for anyone that knows me here. But when you come out before a patch and explain why you are taking some simulation aspects out (although it may be minor) to accommodate the broader range of players, it doesnt exactly bode well for franchise players. It may be a very small step, and it is a step that isn't surprising given the popularity of online play. But it is at least a tiny step in the wrong direction for us.

You normally dont get an explanation like this before a patch. Yes i like the transparency. But the first long paragraph seems like a way to to soften the blow. Kind of like when someone says "Ok, before you get mad at me i need to explain something" or "Ok dont get mad - I know you said we dont need another dog in the house but there is a breed that make reallllly good house dogs and they say dogs make you happier and this breed doesnt shed as much and..." Wait - you already got the dog didn't you? (I speak from experience here lol)

I have no idea since until we play it there is no way to know if it will even be noticeable. I think this is the best version of the Show (or any baseball game, ever). So i do not expect this patch to break the game for offline players. But they clearly state that these changes reduce (to an unknown degree) some simulation components, for everyone.

"....changes internally that reduce certain simulation components (franchise play) in order to better achieve our competitive goals (online play), while still maintaining the (rest of the) components (we left most of the others) that accurately simulate Major League Baseball....With that said (reduction of certain simulation components) , we'd like to take a moment and talk about some of the changes (reduction of certain simulation components) you'll be seeing in the latest patch."

To me that is as clear as day that according to their explanation, they are making the game (for every player on every mode - [except hit types matching PCI input in 2 player games]) at least a tiny bit less of a sim, and more focused on user input. Which may very well not even affect us much this patch, and we all hope it doesnt. But it is an indication of where the focus is going forward, which is online play. I don't think that surprises anyone since we all know that every game is going that direction.

All that being said, i still love this game and i cant speak highly enough for the job theyve done in making a game that plays so close to reality. It really is amazing that its even possible. I just hope it stays that way.

[PhilliesFan13]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

It's all about DD and online with this game anymore. It's sad as hell. Ridin hit the nail square on the head. Wouldn't surprise me to see offline modes gone in the future.

Diamond Dynasty has ruined this game. All about the damn money.

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[wisdom less13]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

The speculation going on here is REAL. I'm waiting for someone to say SDS did 9/11. It's 10am, the patch has been out a few hours and people who haven't played yet are going off the rails...

[KnightTemplar]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

The speculation going on here is REAL. I'm waiting for someone to say SDS did 9/11. It's 10am, the patch has been out a few hours and people who haven't played yet are going off the rails...

Gonna play it right now. I’m one of those center swing guys.

[My993C2]

Re: Patch 1.10 tomorrow

Question: is online DD pitching speed really as bad as people are claiming that it is?

I only hit in my offline RTTS games where my Fastball slider speed is at a 9. I guess I could bump it up to a 10 but I would like to have that extra fraction of a second to decide if the pitch is in the strike zone or should I lay off. Most of my RTTS hitting exposure is with my AAA player (which means he should be hitting at the All Star difficulty level) and my AA player (meaning he should be hitting at Veteran). But I do have two SP RTTS players who have made it to the MLB who also get to hit (meaning I should be hitting at the HoF difficulty with them). Neither one of my SP pitchers is hitting above .200, but they are pitchers. But even with them I can handle the speeds of the MLB pitchers. But I keep reading about people wanting SDS to make pitch speeds faster and to me pitch speeds are fine as they are. So is it really that much slower in online DD play?

PS: I am also using the Directional hitting interface so all this talk of the PCI should have little to no effect on my game play.