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  • KBLover
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2009
    • 12172

    #16
    Re: programmed bias of CPU against human batter early in the count

    Originally posted by TheWarmWind
    While the difference in average can be explained away for several reasons, but the difference in bat exit velocity is somewhat alarming.

    Are you playing with fielder run speed at default (5)? If so, that would go a long way to explaining why you have such a big gap in average from first pitch to 3rd+. When runners in the field are really fast, power becomes a way more important factor in determining a hit.

    However, even if that does fully explain the massive gap in average, the question still remains: why is there a difference in power?

    Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Operation Sports mobile app

    I wish I knew but then again, I don't even see this effect.

    My batted ball velocities don't trend higher when hitting the 3rd pitch/early pitch vs any other pitch.
    "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52728

      #17
      Re: programmed bias of CPU against human batter early in the count

      Originally posted by saucerset
      The pitchers confidence at the time also matters. It is much harder to get a hit when the pitchers confidence is high. After a few first pitch swinging outs, the pitchers confidence goes up and his energy also doesn't drop as fast.

      Isn't there also and AI learning aspect? Like if you keep swinging at the first pitch then the pitcher will start throwing junk on the first pitch because he knows you're swinging. If your taking more pitches then the odds of getting a sweet pitch goes up. At least that is my experience, I may be way off.
      Yes the AI will adapt to your tendencies at the plate. So if you are constantly swinging at the first pitch the AI is going to adapt and make changes to its pitching strategy.

      And you're not way off at all in your approach in that seeing more pitches will increase the odds of you getting a pitch in your hitters preferred zone. The chances of a pitcher making a mistake in location definitely go up with more pitches seen.
      I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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      • RogerDodger
        MVP
        • Sep 2016
        • 1082

        #18
        Re: programmed bias of CPU against human batter early in the count

        Originally posted by bcruise
        Good call, I've done that too:



        Legend difficulty, no slider changes except for fielder run speed down 2 (which, yes, inflates offense but it was still a consistent slider value through the whole season, therefore the comparison works).

        I'm not really buying into this. I was pretty bad with 2 strikes on me. If anything I probably hit better than I should have early in the count.

        3-0 is the biggest surprise there though - I guess I get a little too swing-happy and hit into some unlucky outs in that count.
        Wow, I have never played much RTTS and that screen showing the player performance broken down by count is the kind of thing I'd love to see in franchise mode.

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        • CujoMatty
          Member of Rush Nation
          • Oct 2007
          • 5444

          #19
          Re: programmed bias of CPU against human batter early in the count

          Ive seen it talked about twice in articles posted by Steve on OS but I could only find the one.



          No idea if it’s real or perceived and I don’t know the author Elliot Jenkins or his credentials but it was implied in this article as a fact lol.
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          • Vercingetirex
            Rookie
            • Jun 2018
            • 250

            #20
            Re: programmed bias of CPU against human batter early in the count

            I notice after 2 strikes or two pitches that the PCI size does get bigger for a lot of players. Marginally bigger, but nevertheless.

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