I'm getting an uncomfortable feeling patch 1.12

[Caulfield]

Re: I'm getting an uncomfortable feeling patch 1.12

This is such a misconception with both meter pitching and zone hitting. Player attributes play a major role in the outcome in both of these. Many people seem to think the only way to get players to play true to their attributes is Pulse or Classic. And that meter and zone is all about user skill. Couldn't be further from the truth.

My players and team stats play just as true to their ratings using meter and zone, as the other interfaces, and my stats show it season after season. In fact, in many cases, from the season stats i see from classic/directional posted occasionally, my zone/meter stats are much more realistic across the board than most of them.

I am not saying zone/meter is necessarily better than the others for everyone. I am just saying that there seems to be a major misconception that classic/directional is more realistic, or more sim, when it is not.

Only in the sense that there is less user input, you can argue that classic/directional etc is closer to an actual "simulator" but as far as results and stats go, from my experience i would argue that zone (usually) (- and with the right setup for one's skill level) produces more realistic stats, despite the user input.

I can only speak from my experience, and i don't suggest that everyone use zone/meter. I dont claim that its the best. (For some it is, for some it isn't) Results wont be the same for everyone, especially if not experienced in both.

I for one find meter (even analog with the right sliders) and zone, to play amazingly realistic, and statistically and gameplayistocically sim-worthy.

perfectly said. what matters most to get IRL stats from the game is the right combination of sliders & difficulty level. a person of low skill could play beginner & get real numbers while another very good player could play on beginner & get arcade numbers.

[KnightTemplar]

Re: I'm getting an uncomfortable feeling patch 1.12

perfectly said. what matters most to get IRL stats from the game is the right combination of sliders & difficulty level. a person of low skill could play beginner & get real numbers while another very good player could play on beginner & get arcade numbers.

Bingo.........

[AUTiger1]

Re: I'm getting an uncomfortable feeling patch 1.12

Not on Veteran. Fastball down and away suddenly goes belthigh and down the middle with 93 control. If it happened every so often, sure, I’d believe that. But it happens way too often than it should, even with the control slider bumped up. It’s happened so much to the point where it’s frustrating; I won’t touch the game for a long time, now.

Wow, then you would never survive pitching with the meter on legend. It's tough, I tell you. But rewarding.

[AUTiger1]

Re: I'm getting an uncomfortable feeling patch 1.12

And it's the reason I like Legend Meter. It's the same - Even if I hit my spot perfectly on the meter I'm not guaranteed to have the ball go where I want it (especially if I have a low control/BB/9 or low confidence pitcher out there). Plus on Legend the CPU punishes mistakes hard, which forces me to aim further out from the center of the plate (and often off of the plate), which induces more user walks.

So you might ask why I'd play meter if I know I'm not going to get a perfect output even if I have a perfect input. Because if I have a bad input with the meter I'm almost guaranteed a bad result, either a ball that no one will swing at, or a mistake that gets hammered by Legend CPU PCI's. So, I'm still in control of my outcome in the end - if I don't execute my pitches with the meter, I'm not going to have a chance to win. Simple as that.

Exactly. There are times you have to aim outside the strike zone because you know the pitcher is gonna miss location and you want to hit the corner instead of the middle of the plate. It's a fun challenge for sure.