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  • #1
    kodiak
    Itsy Bitsy Spider
    • Jul 2003
    • 4288

    Wild Pitches


    Ok I've played every pitch of every inning and the wild pitches for my team is off the charts. Through 156 games we've thrown 130 wild pitches. I use classic pitching on legend, default sliders. Doesn't matter if I tap the button or hold it until max effort, I've had wild pitches on it all.

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    NolanRyansSnowmonkey
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    • Jun 2016
    • 1354

    Re: Wild Pitches


    Re: Wild Pitches

    Originally posted by kodiak
    Ok I've played every pitch of every inning and the wild pitches for my team is off the charts. Through 156 games we've thrown 130 wild pitches. I use classic pitching on legend, default sliders. Doesn't matter if I tap the button or hold it until max effort, I've had wild pitches on it all.

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    I dont use classic pitching, but i do play on Legend. Still, i am not a good source of info on Classic..

    But, it seems like i have heard Armor (i think?) mention that Legend isn't reccomended for classic pitching. This may be the reason. Have you tried HOF or All Star to see if the problem persists? Im sure there is a good reason you stuck with Legend for that long, but that is just an extremely unrealistic amount of WP (preaching to the choir, i know lol).

    If it were me, i believe i would try dropping a level, or, if you just love Legend, try increasing pitching consistency (maybe quite a bit), since you are getting up close to one per game, instead of one every 3 games or so.

    Again, i dont even know if that will work with Classic, but thought i would try, until one of the Classic guys can better help.

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    • #3
      kodiak
      Itsy Bitsy Spider
      • Jul 2003
      • 4288

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      Thanks for the reply. I love all the stats across the board both hitting and pitching on legend. Small sample size, but I maxed out consistency and still threw 3 last game with Sevy. One was a slider low and away so those I don't have an issue with on occasion but the other two were pretty ridiculous. I used to play with pitch select off but I turned that back on so I could keep tabs on confidence levels of pitches. That hasn't seemed to help either.

      At this point it is what it is unless some of the classic guys have any advice. It's not ruining my enjoyment of the game but that's the one stat on the defensive side that's crazy. On O it's the GIDP that's always crazy high.

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      • #4
        sabastiane
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        • Jan 2011
        • 173

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        So looking at last year stats Chris Archer was second in wild pitches with 15 and he pitched 201 innings. That averages out to .075 wild pitches per inning. The shows numbers are way to high.
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        • #5
          NolanRyansSnowmonkey
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          • Jun 2016
          • 1354

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          Re: Wild Pitches

          Originally posted by kodiak
          Thanks for the reply. I love all the stats across the board both hitting and pitching on legend. Small sample size, but I maxed out consistency and still threw 3 last game with Sevy. One was a slider low and away so those I don't have an issue with on occasion but the other two were pretty ridiculous. I used to play with pitch select off but I turned that back on so I could keep tabs on confidence levels of pitches. That hasn't seemed to help either.

          At this point it is what it is unless some of the classic guys have any advice. It's not ruining my enjoyment of the game but that's the one stat on the defensive side that's crazy. On O it's the GIDP that's always crazy high.

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          That stinks, but at least you are still getting great results everywhere else. Its been a while since i have used classic (other than just messing around with it here and there) so its kinda foggy as to exactly how it felt.

          I use meter/analog on Legend and i get the nearly the perfct amount of WP, right at the MLB average. But - - due to the game's tendency to amplify wild pitches this year (catchers just dont block good enough, and CPU baserunners know it), i have learned to modify my pitching strategy with runners on base.

          I still try to get guys to chase, inside, outside, up, occasionaly slightly down, but i try not to throw anything that could wind up in the dirt with guys on base. I just dont trust my catcher! I still get the occasional WP, just because my guy misses his spot sometimes (i have consistency very low, so pitches dont always go where i want them to) But doing that has corralled the problem to .37 WP per game, which is perfect.

          Not sure if that strategy works on Classic, or do pitches just miss too far/often for that to even help?

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          • #6
            kodiak
            Itsy Bitsy Spider
            • Jul 2003
            • 4288

            Re: Wild Pitches


            Re: Wild Pitches

            Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
            That stinks, but at least you are still getting great results everywhere else. Its been a while since i have used classic (other than just messing around with it here and there) so its kinda foggy as to exactly how it felt.

            I use meter/analog on Legend and i get the nearly the perfct amount of WP, right at the MLB average. But - - due to the game's tendency to amplify wild pitches this year (catchers just dont block good enough, and CPU baserunners know it), i have learned to modify my pitching strategy with runners on base.

            I still try to get guys to chase, inside, outside, up, occasionaly slightly down, but i try not to throw anything that could wind up in the dirt with guys on base. I just dont trust my catcher! I still get the occasional WP, just because my guy misses his spot sometimes (i have consistency very low, so pitches dont always go where i want them to) But doing that has corralled the problem to .37 WP per game, which is perfect.

            Not sure if that strategy works on Classic, or do pitches just miss too far/often for that to even help?
            It may be just missing spots too often. Used to play cursor off but with the wild pitches, turned the cursor to fade. Using the classic cursor where it shows the arrows of break, I've tried aiming the ball marker in the catchers mitt to the arrows ending in the catchers mitt and all variances in between.

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            • #7
              NolanRyansSnowmonkey
              MVP
              • Jun 2016
              • 1354

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              Originally posted by kodiak
              It may be just missing spots too often. Used to play cursor off but with the wild pitches, turned the cursor to fade. Using the classic cursor where it shows the arrows of break, I've tried aiming the ball marker in the catchers mitt to the arrows ending in the catchers mitt and all variances in between.

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              Yeah. Unfortunately it may just be one of those things i guess. Im sure one of the Classic guys will be able to shed more light on the subject. Stinks though because that is almost equivalent to allowing an extra, extra-base hit per game. Extra runners in scoring position sure makes it tough on a pitcher's ERA (and the team's wins and losses)!

              Hopefully there is something that can be found to curb it.

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              • #8
                Caulfield
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 10985

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                Put me in the uncommon opinion here but 130 isnt as astronomical as it sounds. Since one person (Kodiak) was really doing the pitching and not 12 different pitchers, let's take 1 real life pitcher and see what we get when he represents all 12 pitchers on a staff. Trevor Cahill led MLB last year with 16 wp in only 84 innings. Let's say that Kodiak is the video game equivalent of Cahill when it comes to control on legend/classic. If Cahill had pitched a full season that's 31 wp. Then 31 x 12 = 372 wp's. So then we see Kodiak isnt Cahill's equivalent but more closer to John Lackey or Sonny Gray (11 wp each in 2017) 11 x 12 = 132 wp's. Still, after having said all that, there isnt anything wrong with Kodiak trying to get his wp numbers down and aspiring to be the video game equivalent of say, Dallas Keuchel (1 wp in 145.2 innings in 2017). For the record I threw 90 something wp's in my last season which was more than any real life team threw last year. But that's one Caulfield and not 12 different Caulfields. Also I use meter pitching most of the time on dynamic difficulty which keeps shuttling me back and forth between levels.
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                • #9
                  Unlucky 13
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                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1712

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                  I don't throw that many wild pitches myself, but I also rarely try to throw a curveball below the zone on purpose either.

                  The big difference for me is that the CPU throws a lot more in 18 than they ever have before. At least twice as many, and sometimes five or more in a single game. Any curveball that hits the dirt is a risk of bouncing away. I think that it probably has a lot to do with the change in the game's physics.
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                  • #10
                    NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 1354

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                    Originally posted by Caulfield
                    Put me in the uncommon opinion here but 130 isnt as astronomical as it sounds. Since one person (Kodiak) was really doing the pitching and not 12 different pitchers, let's take 1 real life pitcher and see what we get when he represents all 12 pitchers on a staff. Trevor Cahill led MLB last year with 16 wp in only 84 innings. Let's say that Kodiak is the video game equivalent of Cahill when it comes to control on legend/classic. If Cahill had pitched a full season that's 31 wp. Then 31 x 12 = 372 wp's. So then we see Kodiak isnt Cahill's equivalent but more closer to John Lackey or Sonny Gray (11 wp each in 2017) 11 x 12 = 132 wp's. Still, after having said all that, there isnt anything wrong with Kodiak trying to get his wp numbers down and aspiring to be the video game equivalent of say, Dallas Keuchel (1 wp in 145.2 innings in 2017). For the record I threw 90 something wp's in my last season which was more than any real life team threw last year. But that's one Caulfield and not 12 different Caulfields. Also I use meter pitching most of the time on dynamic difficulty which keeps shuttling me back and forth between levels.
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                    • #11
                      AUTiger1
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                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2444

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                      If you've watched the Braves this year they must lead the world in wild pitches. I don't have a clue what the numbers are but it seems like there's at least 1 or 2 wild pitches per game from the Braves this year.


                      As far as The Show goes, yeah, they need to tone down the wild pitches a tad.
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                      • #12
                        Caulfield
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10985

                        Re: Wild Pitches


                        Re: Wild Pitches

                        Originally posted by AUTiger1
                        If you've watched the Braves this year they must lead the world in wild pitches. I don't have a clue what the numbers are but it seems like there's at least 1 or 2 wild pitches per game from the Braves this year.



                        As far as The Show goes, yeah, they need to tone down the wild pitches a tad.
                        As of couple days ago the league team average was 36. The Braves had 37. Pittsburgh led the way with 60. Oakland was next with 57. Atlanta wasnt even in the top 10. The league average for individuals was 7 & Folty has the most for Atlanta, 5.
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                        • #13
                          AUTiger1
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                          • Oct 2008
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                          Originally posted by Caulfield
                          As of couple days ago the league team average was 36. The Braves had 37. Pittsburgh led the way with 60. Oakland was next with 57. Atlanta wasnt even in the top 10. The league average for individuals was 7 & Folty has the most for Atlanta, 5.

                          I'm stunned that it's that low. But thanks for the info.
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                          • #14
                            GoodyBucs
                            Pro
                            • May 2003
                            • 691

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                            Start watching replays of the wild pitches. I just threw a curve in the dirt 0-2 count and it went straight into my catcher for a solid block, except it went through his body and literally out his ***... Wild pitches are very frustrating in this game...
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                            • #15
                              Caulfield
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 10985

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                              So, besides knuckleballs, curves & sliders cause the most wild pitches & passed balls in the Show?

                              Originally posted by AUTiger1
                              I'm stunned that it's that low. But thanks for the info.
                              seems like the problem for the Braves is theirs seem to come at the worst time, making them really stick out.
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