Player progression.

[Gagnon39]

Can someone point me in the right direction to understand how to best progress players? It is all based on performance statistically? So far in my franchise both Rizzo and Bryant have dropped one overall point, I don't get it. It has nothing to do with their morale, either. I'm talking about their base rating.

[countryboy]

Re: Player progression.

It's my understand that progression/regression is determined by:

* Performance
* Age
* Coaching
* Morale
* Potential

How all of this is factored into the formula, I'm not sure.

As to answer your primary question about the how to best progress players? I'm not sure there is a sure fire, set in stone method that will guarantee progression of a player.

[KBLover]

Re: Player progression.

As to answer your primary question about the how to best progress players? I'm not sure there is a sure fire, set in stone method that will guarantee progression of a player.

Short of young (or, perhaps if the game is still using this instead, low service time) player playing well and being below potential, there really isn't.

Even then, there's the random factor of when guys take off or fall apart.

[FSanchez12]

Re: Player progression.

It's my understand that progression/regression is determined by:

* Performance
* Age
* Coaching
* Morale
* Potential

How all of this is factored into the formula, I'm not sure.

As to answer your primary question about the how to best progress players? I'm not sure there is a sure fire, set in stone method that will guarantee progression of a player.

I feel that coaching has to have a larger effect on it. I recently fired a couple of coaches in my Rays Fantasy Draft Franchise, and saw almost immediate improvement to losses in rating.

[TheWarmWind]

Re: Player progression.

It's still tied to service time, especially what you're talking about OP with the random, nonsensical regression to young stars doing well. There is no logic or reason to it.

Progression in the game is really great and dynamic, and a lot of factors can make a prospect progress (or not).

Regression on the other hand is a steaming pile. I work my own system for regression using edits. Otherwise a player like Bartolo Colon will never happen in the Show.

[underdog13]

Re: Player progression.

I feel that coaching has to have a larger effect on it. I recently fired a couple of coaches in my Rays Fantasy Draft Franchise, and saw almost immediate improvement to losses in rating.

Well yeah some coaches have negatives to them...

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[Gagnon39]

Re: Player progression.

Hmmm, I may have to change my coaches then. I have a few with negative attributes.


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[countryboy]

Re: Player progression.

Hmmm, I may have to change my coaches then. I have a few with negative attributes.


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And this is a reason why I wish they would re-do how coaches affect player's attributes.

I think it's silly that a guy like, let's say Mike Trout suddenly becomes a worse hitter or defender because a coach or two that you hire have negative attributes in a certain category.

Really really really wish they would give managers and coaches tendencies and teaching attributes or developmental attributes or something of the sort, versus that of just a + or - in 4 attribute categories.

I'll stop there as I don't want to move this thread off topic.

[moTIGS]

Re: Player progression.

Regression on the other hand is a steaming pile. I work my own system for regression using edits. Otherwise a player like Bartolo Colon will never happen in the Show.

Can you explain that a little more?

I've toyed with it a little, but only in the negative sense (e.g. signed Scherzer at 36, he led me to a WS win, and I wanted him to retire on top at 37 rather than spend a season or two stuck in FA because his OVR was low but he wouldn't retire, so dropped his rathings far enough that he'd call it quits).

[TheWarmWind]

Re: Player progression.

Can you explain that a little more?

I've toyed with it a little, but only in the negative sense (e.g. signed Scherzer at 36, he led me to a WS win, and I wanted him to retire on top at 37 rather than spend a season or two stuck in FA because his OVR was low but he wouldn't retire, so dropped his rathings far enough that he'd call it quits).

Respond to this message if you want me to post them here, but armor and sword posted my house rules up on the OP of his slider thread. On my phone and about to head to bed, so no posting of that nature for me now.

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[newhope1000]

Re: Player progression.

Seems as season goes along there ratings bumps up for me Stanton and judge started in high 80’s by end season they were 93-98 seems training helps boost there progression


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[nflman2033]

Re: Player progression.

It's still tied to service time, especially what you're talking about OP with the random, nonsensical regression to young stars doing well. There is no logic or reason to it.

Progression in the game is really great and dynamic, and a lot of factors can make a prospect progress (or not).

Regression on the other hand is a steaming pile. I work my own system for regression using edits. Otherwise a player like Bartolo Colon will never happen in the Show.

I ran a single season of a franchise mode with some Legends, Legends have service time of the total number of years they played in the league. They all progressed, even guys with 20 years service time.

[KBLover]

Re: Player progression.

I ran a single season of a franchise mode with some Legends, Legends have service time of the total number of years they played in the league. They all progressed, even guys with 20 years service time.

Really? That's interesting.

Granted, I've never had a player accumulate 20 years...maybe it's because they were Legend players?

Usually in my franchises, players are declining around 8-10 years service time and accelerating once it starts.

[TheWarmWind]

Re: Player progression.

I ran a single season of a franchise mode with some Legends, Legends have service time of the total number of years they played in the league. They all progressed, even guys with 20 years service time.

The fact that they are legends may be a factor, because I had a year where Clayton Kershaw won the Cy Young and had an ERA just above 2 and his OVR dropped 10 points.

Mike Trout hit 63 home runs and came second in RBIs this year DESPITE missing a large part of the year due to injury and dropped 4 points in every attribute.

Not a single person with over 11 years of service time progressed in my entire MLB. Not a single one. All of them regressed. But Josh Donaldson progressed just fine at 35.

[nflman2033]

Re: Player progression.

The fact that they are legends may be a factor, because I had a year where Clayton Kershaw won the Cy Young and had an ERA just above 2 and his OVR dropped 10 points.

Mike Trout hit 63 home runs and came second in RBIs this year DESPITE missing a large part of the year due to injury and dropped 4 points in every attribute.

Not a single person with over 11 years of service time progressed in my entire MLB. Not a single one. All of them regressed. But Josh Donaldson progressed just fine at 35.

I could take a look, but there are so many factors they put into regression besides age and service time. You mentioned how well their season was, but what was thier overall vs potential. If the OVR is already higher than thier potential, then yes they will regress.

No clue how Donaldson progressed at 35, I've never seen anyone over the age of 35 do anything but regress.

Service time probably plays a part in order to keep people from editing the ages of players to keep them around longer. I suppose you could advance you francise 20 years and change an 11 year service time players age down to early 20s, then make potential 99 and see what happens.