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  • Cod
    MVP
    • May 2007
    • 2717

    #46
    Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

    Well, the landscape of card collecting game modes is going to change dramatically over the next few years depending on how all these lawsuits pan out. Something to keep an eye on.

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    • Bunselpower32
      Pro
      • Jul 2012
      • 947

      #47
      Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

      Originally posted by mikeq672
      These card collecting game modes are game killers, been saying it for years. Every single sports game has gotten worse and much less consistent in gameplay since these modes have been added. Dev teams start making the game in a way that will push people to spend more money on packs and completely ignore every other game modes.

      At some point, the bubble will burst on this game modes, and we'll just be left with a garbage game because they wanted more inconsistent and random gameplay because that keeps more people invested in DD and spending money on packs.

      I used to play a little of every mode in the game, now most of the time when I turn it on I just sit there and then realize I dont actually even enjoy the game because 90% of the modes are stale.
      While I don't know necessarily if they design the game that way from the get go q, there is something I did notice.

      The game started out very good. I was getting great hit variety, the tag system was good, the game was, despite the flaws, playing pretty well.

      Then, the imbalance issues for online. So a little gets patched away. Then that opens the door for another imbalance. So a bit more gets patched away. Then 14 patches later you're playing MLB 17. I didn't pay $60 to let online exploitations chip away at a functional game that worked well in the hands of everyone but an insecure online player.

      The problem isn't so much that they design the game a certain way, it's because the sim isn't good enough to be exploit free, the online players find the glitches and exploit them. Then, because you are dealing with an old engine that is way less robust than it should be, AND because of time constraints, instead of, say, fixing the bunt glitch by just making accurate jump times and smarter AI, that isn't possible so the fix is rocket bunts.

      This is a problem because online drives everything. And I get it, that's where the money is. But despite what they may say and even want, continuing to call this a good simulation becomes less accurate every year if online drives the bus. Because the game becomes more arcade as the band aids roll in.

      I feel for the SCEA guys, because I think their hearts lie in offline. But their jobs lie in DD. And with each passing year it becomes clearer to me that that's a gap too wide for even the great uniter of the game of baseball to fix.

      #2 in your program, #1 in our hearts. You will be missed, Red.
      "The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws."

      - Rick Wise

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      • crews2012
        Rookie
        • Mar 2017
        • 19

        #48
        Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

        How much of a change to franchise mode do you think we will actually see in MLB 19? Im not talking about minimal changes that change the way the menu looks, but actual changes to the game mode.

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        • gigemaggs99
          Rookie
          • Jun 2008
          • 142

          #49
          Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

          I'm on the side of franchise mode and less on DD. I see everyone saying you should just make a $60 franchise game....if I not playing online which the servers have been questionable....why not buy MLB14-17 and just play offline?

          I still enjoy playing 14 and 15 in my offline franchise modes. Yes it's cool to have the current rosters but if you play an offline franchise for more than 2-3 seasons the rosters aren't going to be up to date and current as they are in the real world anyways so there goes the need for online current rosters.

          I enjoy playing a good game of baseball and found that the older versions didn't have as many bugs and can be bought for a fraction of the price of new with bugs.

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          • jeffy777
            MVP
            • Jan 2009
            • 3317

            #50
            Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

            Originally posted by gigemaggs99
            I see everyone saying you should just make a $60 franchise game
            No, it was just one guy.

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            • GoDucks1224
              MVP
              • Jul 2012
              • 2622

              #51
              Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

              Originally posted by Mikeyo918
              I wish SCEA would put out a poll for user feedback and ask which game mode/game play would us, the buyers, like to see improvements on.

              I can almost guarantee offline franchise would get the most votes.


              I would almost guarantee it doesn’t lol. They know DD and RTTS are the most played by far. I’m an offline franchise player and would love that. But there’s no way in hell.

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              • mikelecrenski
                Rookie
                • Feb 2003
                • 220

                #52
                Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                I want season mode back. I can’t believe they took it away.


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                • GoDucks1224
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 2622

                  #53
                  Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  Was it on a physical disc?

                  The discussion was game being developed on two discs, one offline and one online. GTA 5, to my knowledge, didn’t release a physical copy of GTA 5 online when it first launched, it was DLC.

                  The physical copy came out 4 years later, but it’s not just online, it has the offline game as well.



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                  Yes, GTA online was always accessible from the physical single player disc that came out on launch, if you had an online connection once the servers were opened. You just had to press X or whatever during the initial load into story mode. The two discs GTA had for the 360/PS3 weren’t two separate modes. The first disc was an installation disc, and the second was the play disc. I don’t recall ever seeing a 2 disc format for this generation of consoles, and a couple quick Google searches doesn’t bring up anything about a second physical disc specifically for GTA online.
                  Last edited by GoDucks1224; 10-16-2018, 09:05 PM. Reason: Me simply saying yes should have ended this.

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                  • GoDucks1224
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 2622

                    #54
                    Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                    Originally posted by Caulfield
                    I much agree with this, so I'm wondering...
                    if the future of video games is to move away from physical copies and it to be all downloads (and I'm not saying thats going to happen, nor do I want it to) maybe thats the way sports video gamemakers can inexpensively make 2 (or multiple versions) . Sorta how people now are cutting the cord on tradiotional tv viewing and just watching what they want without having to surf or wade through the garbage they dont


                    Ooh I like that idea. The future of gaming will be interesting, for sure. I can’t recall the last time I bought a physical disc, honestly. 2015 maybe? It’s been quite a while. Crazy how things change.

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                    • KSUowls
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5884

                      #55
                      Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                      I can't remember the last time I did not buy (or have bought for me when I was a kid) a new baseball game, but I did not buy the Show 18. I'm a franchise player, and the fact that it's been left virtually untouched for some years now just made me say screw it. I love baseball, and I used to love this series. I'm not going to support a game that doesn't want me as a customer though. They'll have to throw franchise players more than a bone next year for me to consider buying which sucks because I really missed having an actual baseball game to play this year.

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                      • DukesofHazzard
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 306

                        #56
                        Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                        I will say tho that after deleting the game and patches and then reinstalling them, the game plays much better. I've played 2 franchise games after reinstalling it and have not had any defensive animation or any kinda blunders. I recommend trying it if u r experiencing issues with defense of anything else.

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                        • KSUowls
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5884

                          #57
                          Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                          Originally posted by Caulfield
                          at the very least I would have kept 16 or 17 to play this past year. If I would have had to, I think I could have kept playing one of them for a couple or even 3 years. I definitely wouldnt have been able to not play during the summer. Thankfully, even at a full price of $65 still works out to only a little over a dollar a week to play. A bargain in my book, esp. considering baseballis my favorite game. I just always make sure I set aside a dollar every week so its no big deal each March. I still pop in Show 14 from time to time and I probably could have played that all summer if needed lol
                          I probably would have except Out of the Park 19 is phenomenal. It doesn't quite hit the itch of being able to pitch, field and bat, but at least it still gives me a MLB experience.

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                          • GoDucks1224
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 2622

                            #58
                            Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                            Originally posted by KSUowls
                            I probably would have except Out of the Park 19 is phenomenal. It doesn't quite hit the itch of being able to pitch, field and bat, but at least it still gives me a MLB experience.


                            I’d take a look at Pro Yakyuu Spirits too. It’s not an MLB experience (NPB, obviously), but it is a fantastic baseball experience if you need to scratch that itch. I love The Show, but PYS honestly has the best gameplay I’ve ever played bar none. And I’ve been playing The Show since 2008. Played MVP Baseball before that. You’d have to use a translation site though, as it’s only in Japanese. (spiritstranslation is the best one) The latest addition was 2015, but Konami have announced it is returning this upcoming season.

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                            • Bunselpower32
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 947

                              #59
                              Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                              Originally posted by GoDucks1224
                              I’d take a look at Pro Yakyuu Spirits too. It’s not an MLB experience (NPB, obviously), but it is a fantastic baseball experience if you need to scratch that itch. I love The Show, but PYS honestly has the best gameplay I’ve ever played bar none. And I’ve been playing The Show since 2008. Played MVP Baseball before that. You’d have to use a translation site though, as it’s only in Japanese. (spiritstranslation is the best one) The latest addition was 2015, but Konami have announced it is returning this upcoming season.
                              I am almost assuredly jumping into that this go round. I loved the look of it before and I don't care if the game is in Japanese, it'll be an opportunity to maybe pick up a little.

                              People can say what they want about Konami, but those guys can make some darn good gameplay.

                              #2 in your program, #1 in our hearts. You will be missed, Red.
                              "The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws."

                              - Rick Wise

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                              • KSUowls
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 5884

                                #60
                                Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                                Originally posted by GoDucks1224
                                I’d take a look at Pro Yakyuu Spirits too. It’s not an MLB experience (NPB, obviously), but it is a fantastic baseball experience if you need to scratch that itch. I love The Show, but PYS honestly has the best gameplay I’ve ever played bar none. And I’ve been playing The Show since 2008. Played MVP Baseball before that. You’d have to use a translation site though, as it’s only in Japanese. (spiritstranslation is the best one) The latest addition was 2015, but Konami have announced it is returning this upcoming season.
                                Part of the joy in MLB games is playing with my team the Braves. That being said, I'm a lover of all things Japan. One of my great regrets when I was over there in college was not attending a Giants game (were on the road the one day I was near the Tokyo dome). Guess I need to check this game out.

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