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  • ericjwm
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    • Mar 2003
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    #1

    Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

    What if the consumer wants something that mimics real life and not "less time and more action?"
    Why is that even on the back of the box ;7

    Talking about: (that can be toggled off by fast play and not lazy developers):

    -Individual batter walk ups for each batter

    - step in/step out routines for each batter

    Remember those? (2k days)

    Too much to ask from the only one delivering a major baseball title each year that tries?
  • ericjwm
    Banned
    • Mar 2003
    • 1807

    #2
    Re: Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

    I will give HUGE credit where credit is due. The new swinging strike out batter animations and swing follow throughs were pretty great and added a lot to the overall illusion of realism.
    Last edited by ericjwm; 12-13-2018, 01:03 PM.

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    • ericjwm
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      • Mar 2003
      • 1807

      #3
      Re: Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

      ...and no, I am not part of the closed alpha.. though I should.
      Time constraints right now or maybe I would

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      • kehlis
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        • Jul 2008
        • 27738

        #4
        Re: Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

        How about leaving the “lazy devs” insults out.

        Thanks.

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        • Caulfield
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          • Apr 2011
          • 10986

          #5
          Re: Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

          Originally posted by ericjwm
          What if the consumer wants something that mimics real life and not "less time and more action?"
          I dont know how accurate their studies are but apparently sony has learned the majority doesn't want real life but more action. I'm just hoping 19 is the best of both worlds with real life for us geezers and more action for the whippersnappers lol
          Last edited by Caulfield; 12-13-2018, 04:44 PM.
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          • AUTiger1
            MVP
            • Oct 2008
            • 2413

            #6
            Re: Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

            How long does it take you to play through an entire game as currently is not skipping any cut scenes? For me we're talking about 45 minutes to an hour. So, now you're asking for it take even longer to play a game? Why? Most of us have lives outside of this video game and finding time to play a couple of games in a day is hard. I honestly don't see an issue with it being the way it is.


            The only thing I wish they'd put back in that they've taken out is the warmup pitches prior to the start of the game. I don't know why that was taken out.
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            • MLB14
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              • May 2014
              • 636

              #7
              Re: Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

              Originally posted by ericjwm
              What if the consumer wants something that mimics real life and not "less time and more action?"
              Why is that even on the back of the box ;7

              Talking about: (that can be toggled off by fast play and not lazy developers):

              -Individual batter walk ups for each batter

              - step in/step out routines for each batter

              Remember those? (2k days)

              Too much to ask from the only one delivering a major baseball title each year that tries?

              I don't understand why it isn't at least an option anymore to have all the slower paced stuff play out. It doesn't make any sense to eliminate it when it can be toggled.
              Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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              • nflman2033
                Rookie
                • Feb 2003
                • 360

                #8
                Re: Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

                Originally posted by Caulfield
                I dont know how accurate their studies are but apparently sony has learned the majority doesn't want real life but more action. I'm just hoping 19 is the best of both worlds with real life for us geezers and more action for the whippersnappers lol
                Yeah, they are a business, and for that, their objective is to make money.

                So what makes more sense? Cater to the hardcore gamers who want 100% reality or to the casual gamer who wants to have fun?

                So you're first question to that should be why not both? So that is what they try to do. But in the end if you have to make a choice, because you cant make every one happy, you are going to choose the group that has the most amount of consumers. that way you only anger the small group.

                I dont know which group that is, but I can make an educated guess based on the direction I have seen this game go.

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                • AUTiger1
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 2413

                  #9
                  Re: Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

                  Originally posted by nflman2033
                  Yeah, they are a business, and for that, their objective is to make money.

                  So what makes more sense? Cater to the hardcore gamers who want 100% reality or to the casual gamer who wants to have fun?

                  So you're first question to that should be why not both? So that is what they try to do. But in the end if you have to make a choice, because you cant make every one happy, you are going to choose the group that has the most amount of consumers. that way you only anger the small group.

                  I dont know which group that is, but I can make an educated guess based on the direction I have seen this game go.

                  I was playing last night and thought "they no longer have the on this date in history feature" anymore. I just don't understand why in the world they had great stuff like that and warm up pitches before the game and then would take them out. Like everything else there should be the option to have it or not have it.


                  If someone wants to have a batter walk up for every batter, me personally, I think it's a bit too much, but then more power to them. The option to turn it on or off should be there.
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                  • countryboy
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                    • Sep 2003
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                    #10
                    Re: Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

                    the "on this date in history" is still in the game.
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                    • AUTiger1
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                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2413

                      #11
                      Re: Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

                      Originally posted by countryboy
                      the "on this date in history" is still in the game.

                      I've never seen it on this year's game and I play a crap ton of games. I watch nearly all the cut scenes too.
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                      • countryboy
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                        • Sep 2003
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                        #12
                        Re: Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

                        Originally posted by AUTiger1
                        I've never seen it on this year's game and I play a crap ton of games. I watch nearly all the cut scenes too.
                        I've seen it a few times.

                        Next time it pops up I'll try to take a pic or video of it.
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                        • Hammerhunker
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                          • Mar 2003
                          • 3007

                          #13
                          Re: Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

                          The key word is "toggle".

                          I personally appreciate the total immersion into what I perceive as a real-life experience which includes a heavy does of baseball's nuances. If the Show is to be the only game in town, I want and demand the nuances; or at least the choice to toggle them on.

                          It's hard to argue against the desire of choice for a consumer.

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                          • MLB14
                            Pro
                            • May 2014
                            • 636

                            #14
                            Re: Has not crossed Sony Computer Entertainments desk in a long time, but...

                            Originally posted by nflman2033
                            Yeah, they are a business, and for that, their objective is to make money.

                            So what makes more sense? Cater to the hardcore gamers who want 100% reality or to the casual gamer who wants to have fun?

                            So you're first question to that should be why not both? So that is what they try to do.
                            If they were trying to do both, we'd have a choice in the main menu of simulation or arcade style gameplay.


                            Originally posted by nflman2033
                            But in the end if you have to make a choice, because you cant make every one happy,
                            I just mentioned a way to make a lot more people happy. It isn't rocket science or innovative. It's been done before in games a decade ago.


                            Originally posted by nflman2033
                            you are going to choose the group that has the most amount of consumers. that way you only anger the small group.
                            I wouldn't want to anger any section of my customers.
                            Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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