No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

[JayhawkerStL]

Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

Not meant to be smug at all. My league is very sim. Pretty serious group. Sometimes I just need to play something where I don't want to have to think and just play a video game. Where nothing is really on the line. That's when I turn to DD.

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The implication is that DD doesn't require thought and strategy. What you are doing is not going unnoticed.

[TripleCrown]

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If online franchise is a source of continuous negative discussion on the forums, and they don’t believe they can improve it to an acceptable degree, they are better off removing it. It’s just not used enough to warrant the investment or the continuous negative online discussions.

At some point, players get used it to it being gone. That’s the trend in gaming.

And really, baseball is absolutely the worst game to transfer to online leagues. The games take too long, and MLB requires games to be played in series because of how bullpens and rotations are managed, which affect platooning position players. No one has time to play online league baseball in a way that resembles MLB.

I actually prefer the DD style of three inning games, because it focuses on the late inning style of play. It’s competing and fun, but it also creates an environment where more people have time to play and compete.

I know it seem antithetical, but DD is a solution to the problems facing simulation league play. And while it should easy to just leave online franchise in as an option, it actually hurts game sales, because it fails to meet the expectations of gamers. While some adapt, many more use it as something to bash the game over.

I do agree. Another reason I think baseball doesn’t translate well online is because the focus point of a baseball game is in his pitcher/batcher interaction that is all happening in less than a 400 milliseconds. Quite a challenge for any online servers infrastructure !!

PS: It’s even challenging for my 65” LG plugged into my Onkyo receiver LOL. ( some lagging issues here)

[JayhawkerStL]

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I do agree. Another reason I think baseball doesn’t translate well online is because the focus point of a baseball game is in his pitcher/batcher interaction that is all happening in less than a 400 milliseconds. Quite a challenge for any online servers infrastructure !!

PS: It’s even challenging for my 65” LG plugged into my Onkyo receiver LOL. ( some lagging issues here)

MLB 2K actually did a pretty nice job of getting around that, although it was far from perfect. The Show exceeded what 2K did over the last two years. At this point, you can read balls and strikes, which gets the game closer to realistic.

But the multitude of control schemes actually works against the game because there is definitely an advantage to using to a specific controls for pitching and hitting. If you use the wrong ones, you are at a huge disadvantage. Worse, the good control schemes are too overpowered for online play.

All those options means that gameplay is wildly different based on control scheme and and users would flip out if they started limiting them. But I do think Sony has a path to good online play. But it will never make nine innings games something that the vast majority of gamers have time to do online. And if you aren't playing series of games, it makes managing your rotation and bullpen a non-factor.

[underdog13]

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Yeah you looked wayyyyyyyyy to deep into what he said.


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Um what? He clearly thinks less of people who play DD. Hence the "people who just want to play a video game"

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[Dolenz]

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In fact I know plenty of OS’ers who play DD exclusively offline and I expect a much bigger suite of offline modes for DD to be coming because I can pretty much assure you SDS is seeing their telemetry stats showing a lot of offline DD is being played.

You just described me. I like DD. I like the card collecting (I don't buy packs or points). But after messing with it for two seasons I am tired of the only offline activities being Conquest or meaningless games grinding stats for missions. There is really no compelling reason to field your best team offline. If I had to guess what March to October is then I would guess an offline season mode for your DD team. It has been requested a lot.

I view DD as a casual, fantasy, non-sim mode. This is the audience that SDS is catering to. Or are they trying to convince the die-hard baseball fans to try/play DD?

The last thing I would call Diamond Dynasty is casual. It requires ENORMOUS amounts of playing time to complete the missions and programs. My guess is that the amount of time the average DD players spend in the game dwarfs any other game mode.

I think we're in danger of forgetting - not you specifically but all of us - that SDS take 60 off us just for purchasing the game. That's more than they'll get from most DD players. No doubt there are some whose spending will exceed the cost of the game, but the average DD player won't be spending anything like that on stubs or whatever they sell. The bulk of their profit will still come from those of us who purchase the game to begin with.

What I think you are in danger of forgetting is that it is the DD players dishing out the money for the $100 edition of the game because all the extra benefits of that version are all for them. Meanwhile the Franchise and RTTS players are fine with the $60 version.

[redsfan4life]

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If online franchise is a source of continuous negative discussion on the forums, and they don’t believe they can improve it to an acceptable degree, they are better off removing it. It’s just not used enough to warrant the investment or the continuous negative online discussions.

At some point, players get used it to it being gone. That’s the trend in gaming.

And really, baseball is absolutely the worst game to transfer to online leagues. The games take too long, and MLB requires games to be played in series because of how bullpens and rotations are managed, which affect platooning position players. No one has time to play online league baseball in a way that resembles MLB.

I actually prefer the DD style of three inning games, because it focuses on the late inning style of play. It’s competing and fun, but it also creates an environment where more people have time to play and compete.

I know it seem antithetical, but DD is a solution to the problems facing simulation league play. And while it should easy to just leave online franchise in as an option, it actually hurts game sales, because it fails to meet the expectations of gamers. While some adapt, many more use it as something to bash the game over.

The whole 'baseball doesn't translate well to online franchise' argument is weak. The games take the same amount of time as most Madden games and most seasons are 30 games long. As long as you are in a well structured and run league the mode was very competitive and just as realistic as any Madden or 2k League you'd ever see. The problem lies with SDS, not the game of baseball. Don't make excuses for them.

[Caulfield]

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The whole 'baseball doesn't translate well to online franchise' argument is weak. The games take the same amount of time as most Madden games and most seasons are 30 games long. As long as you are in a well structured and run league the mode was very competitive and just as realistic as any Madden or 2k League you'd ever see. The problem lies with SDS, not the game of baseball. Don't make excuses for them.

I think part of the problem is they have too many online users and it overloads their servers. Ridding themselves of online franchise helps alleviate that burden. Not saying thats the right or wrong way to do it, but it is what it is.

[Mercury112491]

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Um what? He clearly thinks less of people who play DD. Hence the "people who just want to play a video game"

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Did you read his follow up post? That’s not what he was saying at all. Jesus this board has become basically the same as reddit. It’s
Embarrassing because of what this place used to be.


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[underdog13]

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Did you read his follow up post? That’s not what he was saying at all. Jesus this board has become basically the same as reddit. It’s
Embarrassing because of what this place used to be.


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His follow up post was

"Pretty serious group. Sometimes I just need to play something where I don't want to have to think and just play a vide game. Where nothing is reallyon the line."

Now, I don't give a **** if he hates DD or thinks less of DD players. That doesn't bother me.

What's some straight up disingenuous bull**** is you saying that he doesn't think less of it. He clearly thinks it is lesser than online fran, "just a video game" as if online fran is somehow more than just a video game. He thinks it's less serious than online franchise, he states that by letting us know the importance he places on seriousness by "pretty serious group" he wouldn't have put that if he didn't value their seriousness. He then states he only plays DD when "nothing is really on the line".

So we have him stating he finds DD a lesser mode via " just a video game" indicating online franchise is more than just a video game. And that DD is less serious of a mode.

I really don't care what he thinks about DD. But you can't just ignore the tone and context which he provides those two messages.

And don't come at me with that Reddit ****.

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[Mercury112491]

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Lol ok bro, I mean congrats at being able to 100% decipher tone from text. Clearly you’re just hunting for a reason to be upset about something so I’ll leave you to it. Rage away my man.


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[underdog13]

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Lol ok bro, I mean congrats at being able to 100% decipher tone from text. Clearly you’re just hunting for a reason to be upset about something so I’ll leave you to it. Rage away my man.


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Typical expect response.

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[nemesis04]

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I think part of the problem is they have too many online users and it overloads their servers. Ridding themselves of online franchise helps alleviate that burden. Not saying thats the right or wrong way to do it, but it is what it is.

They got rid of it and online still sucked last year. So that was not the problem. They have always struggled with this at every level.

[LastActionHero]

No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

They got rid of it and online still sucked last year. So that was not the problem. They have always struggled with this at every level.

Online was pretty okay for me last year. I just wish they could get rid of the hickup right after you hit the ball. It completely removes the satisfying feeling of squaring up a baseball.


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[loso_34]

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I’m not even shocked based off their wording last year I doubt it makes a return.

Even if it did for mlb 19’ I doubt I’d come back it’s been the same game for about 5-6 years now. When will they make changes?

[Artman22]

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I agree with this mostly because I would rather have some form of online franchise then none at all. It could be the old code from 17 or even before then where it was only 40 man rosters not a real online franchise more like a basic league, keep the real MLB schedule. Anything would be better than nothing at all.


Who knows maybe online franchise say there were 3000 leagues made etc and they were all full rosters 30 teams x 90 players = 2700 players to sync all the information and data maybe it was rough on the servers along with DD. If you lessen the load maybe cut it back to 40 man rosters per team or use some of that DD money and get dedicated servers for both online modes.

I will say it again how can you have a sports game without leagues?


I imagine football is #1 sport in america and to me baseball could be #1 to me personally , but lets say baseball is #2 then NBA #3 then NHL #4 etc etc... All sports titles should have some form of leagues on them.

All other sports games have online leagues. Madden and nba2k do. This game had them and took them out. To me that’s inexcusable. Both 2k and madden sell a lot more than Mlb the show so the server excuse I don’t buy at all. You and I are on the same page. I rather leave the bad online league they had before than to leave us with nothing. Every year I looked forward to online leagues and now we have nothing 2 years straight and no word from them either.


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