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  • Scooter3
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    • Nov 2005
    • 2680

    #106
    Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

    Companies that are hungry take chances when you have a monopoly it tends to make you sit back and do a little polishing

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    • Dolenz
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      • May 2014
      • 2056

      #107
      Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

      Originally posted by pingponggame
      If only some brave soul from SDS we’re allowed to provide some insight on the direction the game is headed, and reasons why modes are gutted, preferred over others, etc. Perhaps it would slow down the conspiracy theories. Or... maybe they like the madness lol
      A) Would anybody believe them?

      B) Anyone who is honest with themselves should already know the answers. That with the resources they have, they are simply focusing on the game modes that get played the most and provide the most income.

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      • DamnYanks2
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2007
        • 20794

        #108
        Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

        Originally posted by countryboy
        I never said it wasn't fine for them to be upset. In fact in the post you quoted, I said I understand the frustration and disappointment. I even said that in my initial response in this thread to this news.



        But this talk that SDS is purposely tanking franchise mode so that they are justified to remove it later in favor of DD is preposterous at best. If they are trying to steer people away from franchise mode, then why did they take the time to add PHASES to help more casual fans understand the intricacies of franchise mode? Why did they add Critical Situations and the ability to jump in and out of simmed games in franchise mode? They did both of those things to open the mode up to a bigger audience. So why would they take the time to try to open the mode to a bigger audience if their secret plan all along is to slowly kill the mode so they could remove it? It makes absolutely no sense.



        Again, frustration and disappointment over online franchise is one thing. But completely making up theories out of that frustration and disappointment is ridiculous.
        It's not a conspiracy theory. It's the facts of so called next gen gaming now. From a business standpoint it makes absolute sense. You got people paying half their paycheck for stubs and it's a very lucrative business. You can't blame them. It just sucks for us.

        But they are chasing the money. Why invest time and effort in to franchise. When you got people paying for packs and stubs for Diamond Dynasty? All these big sports games do this now.

        My friend last night paid 100 bucks to open nba 2k packs. Same **** as DD. This is where it's at. The rest of us get screwed.


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        • DamnYanks2
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jun 2007
          • 20794

          #109
          Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

          Originally posted by Dolenz
          A) Would anybody believe them?



          B) Anyone who is honest with themselves should already know the answers. That with the resources they have, they are simply focusing on the game modes that get played the most and provide the most income.
          Exactly. Right on the money.

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52731

            #110
            Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

            Originally posted by DamnYanks2
            It's not a conspiracy theory. It's the facts of so called next gen gaming now. From a business standpoint it makes absolute sense. You got people paying half their paycheck for stubs and it's a very lucrative business. You can't blame them. It just sucks for us.

            But they are chasing the money. Why invest time and effort in to franchise. When you got people paying for packs and stubs for Diamond Dynasty? All these big sports games do this now.

            My friend last night paid 100 bucks to open nba 2k packs. Same **** as DD. This is where it's at. The rest of us get screwed.


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            So you know for a fact that SDS is purposely not updating franchise mode because they are going to remove it?


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            • DamnYanks2
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jun 2007
              • 20794

              #111
              Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

              Originally posted by countryboy
              So you know for a fact that SDS is purposely not updating franchise mode because they are going to remove it?


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              No. But I do know that other modes aren't getting attention the way they should because of DD.

              DD is the cash cow. That's where the majority of the attention is going. All games are doing this stuff from sports games to FPS with their loot boxes. Welcome to next gen gaming.

              The offline player is all but dead.

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52731

                #112
                Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                No.

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                Then it’s a theory, which is what I said in response to all this talk that SDS is purposely tanking franchise mode so they can be justified in removing it later.


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                • DamnYanks2
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 20794

                  #113
                  Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  Then it’s a theory, which is what I said in response to all this talk that SDS is purposely tanking franchise mode so they can be justified in removing it later.


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                  Look man I've always loved this series and its developers like you. But its clear to me DD is where it's at now. They've gotten very lazy on everything else.

                  As for the theory. I never said I believe that. But I do know for a fact they aren't focused on it. And just scrapping online franchise is just wrong and pure laziness.

                  Can't even update real time stats during daily matchups. Yea I'm salty with this company. They pulling the same **** EA does and I never thought I'd see the day.

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52731

                    #114
                    Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                    Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                    Look man I've always loved this series and its developers like you. But its clear to me DD is where it's at now. They've gotten very lazy on everything else.

                    As for the theory. I never said I believe that. But I do know for a fact they aren't focused on it. And just scrapping online franchise is just wrong and pure laziness.

                    Can't even update real time stats during daily matchups. Yea I'm salty with this company. They pulling the same **** EA does and I never thought I'd see the day.

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                    My whole theory comment was in reference to the talk that they were tanking franchise mode purposely in order to be justified in removing it later. You responded saying it wasn’t a theory.

                    You didn’t need to counter my comment in order to state your opinion of where their focus lies. I didn’t challenge that opinion from anyone.


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                    • DamnYanks2
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 20794

                      #115
                      Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                      Originally posted by countryboy
                      My whole theory comment was in reference to the talk that they were tanking franchise mode purposely in order to be justified in removing it later. You responded saying it wasn’t a theory.

                      You didn’t need to counter my comment in order to state your opinion of where their focus lies. I didn’t challenge that opinion from anyone.


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                      That's fair. I think you're just missing the bigger picture. Alot of us are worried where this game is heading.

                      I know you said you aren't challenging that opinion. But that's just how I'm feeling. Alot of us are. This series hasn't done anything innovative in awhile and its frustrating.

                      That being said it wouldn't surprise me a bit if they did scrap franchise completely. Not buying in to the conspiracy. But I get that feeling.

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52731

                        #116
                        Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                        Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                        That's fair. I think you're just missing the bigger picture. Alot of us are worried where this game is heading.

                        I know you said you aren't challenging that opinion. But that's just how I'm feeling. Alot of us are. This series hasn't done anything innovative in awhile and its frustrating.

                        That being said it wouldn't surprise me a bit if they did scrap franchise completely. Not buying in to the conspiracy. But I get that feeling.

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                        I’m not missing anything. I understand the feeling that their primary focus is DD. I don’t necessarily agree with it but I understand it.

                        But I don’t agree that they are going to scrap franchise mode. If that was the plan, why would they make any improvements at all, however minimal one may view those to be? Wouldn’t they use that time and manpower towards DD and trying to figure out a plan to get more people into that mode?



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                        • Armor and Sword
                          The Lama
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 21792

                          #117
                          Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                          Originally posted by NYYanks26
                          A buggy mess, agree there 100%. It absolutely was a buggy mess but so are half the other modes in this game.

                          Awful gameplay? Online franchise used the same servers diamond dynasty uses. If online gameplay is so awful then why is DD the most played game mode? Why did they spend so much to overhaul the servers last year?

                          The "effort" we took involved back end stuff and resolving/fixing games that froze or were never registered in the standings. Has absolutely nothing to do with online gameplay. There was never any lag when you actually got in a game. It was after the game (stats, final scores not showing up) where the problems really start. The mode itself was broken. They continued to release a broken version for years.

                          But bottom line..This is an online franchise thread. If you didn't play the mode and don't care, why post in this thread?! There's 100 other threads you can talk about what a great game this is. Nobody here is getting all worked up over a video game. We're simply expressing disappointment.


                          I have no idea why DD online is so popular. If you think the actual gameplay online is good. Ok then.

                          In fact I know plenty of OS’ers who play DD exclusively offline and I expect a much bigger suite of offline modes for DD to be coming because I can pretty much assure you SDS is seeing their telemetry stats showing a lot of offline DD is being played.

                          Online gameplay stinks IMO. It is simply not even the same game. I gave online franchise/DD plenty of chances. And despite the buggy mess the backside was on franchise the actually gameplay stunk. Even with all the server upgraded etc, the game stinks online. Lag..yes, seeing one thing on your screen and another happening on the other players...check. Constant DC’s check. Sterile hitting and lack of variety...check. It stinks.

                          And I can post wherever I want. I am not here bashing anyone.

                          I merely giving an opinion. If you don’t like it or agree with it. Thats fine.

                          I totally emphasize with all the guys who ran leagues and made it “work”. God bless you all who labored through the online play which IMO was also was very subpar. Not even on the same level of say Madden online. There servers are far more stable and the game plays a lot closer to the way it feels offline.

                          I think online has been given the short end of the stick for all modes online with The Show. It is a major weakness in the series. And so it shocks me people play the game online as much as they do.




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                          • Ballgame59
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                            • Dec 2013
                            • 654

                            #118
                            Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                            I hadn't realized that DD was that popular ON-LINE. Especially with all of the cheese.

                            I view DD as a casual, fantasy, non-sim mode. This is the audience that SDS is catering to. Or are they trying to convince the die-hard baseball fans to try/play DD?

                            Does anyone know when SDS' contract runs out with MLB?

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                            • Bondsfan
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1275

                              #119
                              Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                              Originally posted by Ballgame59
                              I hadn't realized that DD was that popular ON-LINE. Especially with all of the cheese.

                              I view DD as a casual, fantasy, non-sim mode. This is the audience that SDS is catering to. Or are they trying to convince the die-hard baseball fans to try/play DD?

                              Does anyone know when SDS' contract runs out with MLB?
                              They don't have an exclusivity contract. No one does now. 2k was the last to have an exclusive license. But that license was only exclusive for 3rd party games, which meant the console companies (ie Sony) could still purchase the MLB rights to make a baseball game.

                              At this stage, any developer is basically free to contract with MLB to make a baseball game. Unfortunately, the only competitor at the moment is RBI.

                              Nothing would be better for baseball gaming than for EA to get back into baseball with the return of MVP Baseball. It may happen. These card games in sports games make these companies huge amounts of money, and I'm sure EA would love to add another sports game with a card game to its portfolio. I'm not saying MVP would be good, it would likely wouldn't be as good as the show, at least not for several years, but it would be competition, and that would make the show have to get better. Also, MVP could be the only baseball game on Xbox, the switch, and PC. So even if it was worse than the Show, it could outsell it.

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                              • countryboy
                                Growing pains
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 52731

                                #120
                                Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                                Originally posted by Ballgame59
                                I hadn't realized that DD was that popular ON-LINE. Especially with all of the cheese.

                                I view DD as a casual, fantasy, non-sim mode. This is the audience that SDS is catering to. Or are they trying to convince the die-hard baseball fans to try/play DD?

                                Does anyone know when SDS' contract runs out with MLB?
                                I don't know when SDS contract with MLB is up for renewal, but it doesn't matter. SDS does not hold an exclusive contract on the MLB license. Anyone can make a MLB licensed game if they wanted. Microsoft, 2K, EA, or anyone else can produce a game, they just choose not to.
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