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  • Ballgame59
    Pro
    • Dec 2013
    • 654

    #121
    Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

    Originally posted by Bondsfan
    They don't have an exclusivity contract. No one does now. 2k was the last to have an exclusive license. But that license was only exclusive for 3rd party games, which meant the console companies (ie Sony) could still purchase the MLB rights to make a baseball game.

    At this stage, any developer is basically free to contract with MLB to make a baseball game. Unfortunately, the only competitor at the moment is RBI.
    Thanks for the insight. I was wondering why MLB have such a small company make their game. Just curious. And no doubt that EA would make an Ultimate Team mode. And with a decent following, SDS would probably have the upper hand with that mode so it would take something "exclusive" to attract those fans.

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52731

      #122
      Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

      I personally wish all 3 would get back into the baseball genre. EA bring back the MVP series, 2K bring back their baseball game, and Microsoft to resurrect the High Heat series, considering they still have the rights.

      There's no doubt that I'm a fan of the Show, but its always better to have choices and healthy competition.

      The only negative is that instead of buying 2 baseball games a year (Show and RBI), I'd be buying 5.
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      • Ballgame59
        Pro
        • Dec 2013
        • 654

        #123
        Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

        Originally posted by countryboy
        I don't know when SDS contract with MLB is up for renewal, but it doesn't matter. SDS does not hold an exclusive contract on the MLB license. Anyone can make a MLB licensed game if they wanted. Microsoft, 2K, EA, or anyone else can produce a game, they just choose not to.
        I feel that baseball just isn't as popular as a video game anymore? The only way to appeal to the kids now-a-days is to make a DD/Ultimate Team mode.

        I wonder if OOTP, would ever consider making a game for play series since they specialize in Franchises. Or at least team up with someone like 2K to do it.

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        • Houston
          MVP
          • May 2003
          • 4728

          #124
          Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

          Originally posted by countryboy
          I personally wish all 3 would get back into the baseball genre. EA bring back the MVP series, 2K bring back their baseball game, and Microsoft to resurrect the High Heat series, considering they still have the rights.

          There's no doubt that I'm a fan of the Show, but its always better to have choices and healthy competition.

          The only negative is that instead of buying 2 baseball games a year (Show and RBI), I'd be buying 5.

          I would love to see Acclaim bring back All Star Baseball. A game back in 1996 - 2005 that had expansion team and some other great features.


          Hell that spirits baseball game if it was only sold in the US and had MLB liscense to have real MLB teams. Graphics are already there along with solid gameplay.
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          • tabarnes19_SDS
            Game Designer
            • Feb 2003
            • 3084

            #125
            Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

            Originally posted by countryboy
            I personally wish all 3 would get back into the baseball genre. EA bring back the MVP series, 2K bring back their baseball game, and Microsoft to resurrect the High Heat series, considering they still have the rights.

            There's no doubt that I'm a fan of the Show, but its always better to have choices and healthy competition.

            The only negative is that instead of buying 2 baseball games a year (Show and RBI), I'd be buying 5.
            I would really love to see microsoft develop High Heat again. Was my favorite baseball game until 2004 console mess...I played 2003 for years until Kolbe from SCEA on these boards got me on to mlb show. Went out and bought a ps3 for it.

            Kolbe was the one that really pushed franchise mode.

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            • countryboy
              Growing pains
              • Sep 2003
              • 52731

              #126
              Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

              Originally posted by Ballgame59
              I feel that baseball just isn't as popular as a video game anymore? The only way to appeal to the kids now-a-days is to make a DD/Ultimate Team mode.

              I wonder if OOTP, would ever consider making a game for play series since they specialize in Franchises. Or at least team up with someone like 2K to do it.
              I'm not sure why other developers don't try to get back into the baseball genre. I know at one time there was speculation that EA was going to bring back the MVP series, but that rumor quickly vanished like a fart in the wind.

              I don't know if they feel that sales profit versus the cost of production plus the license aren't large enough, or what exactly the reason.

              Originally posted by Houston
              I would love to see Acclaim bring back All Star Baseball. A game back in 1996 - 2005 that had expansion team and some other great features.


              Hell that spirits baseball game if it was only sold in the US and had MLB liscense to have real MLB teams. Graphics are already there along with solid gameplay.
              I thought Acclaim folded? I could be wrong.

              But yes I loved the All Star Baseball series as well. Hell I still play my expansion franchise every now and again of the Louisville Horsemen. Our home park is Whittaker Grounds and I made us in the AL Central so as not to compete with my Cardinals.

              Yeah I have the Pro Yakyu Spirits 2004 game on the PS2. Fun game, plays an excellent game of baseball. Of course the PS2 graphics are a bit dated, but its fun to play.

              I said that I'm buying 2 baseball games this year but it will actually be 3 as I'll buy the Pro Yakyu Spirits game coming out in April of this year.
              I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

              I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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              • Houston
                MVP
                • May 2003
                • 4728

                #127
                Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                Originally posted by countryboy
                I'm not sure why other developers don't try to get back into the baseball genre. I know at one time there was speculation that EA was going to bring back the MVP series, but that rumor quickly vanished like a fart in the wind.

                I don't know if they feel that sales profit versus the cost of production plus the license aren't large enough, or what exactly the reason.



                I thought Acclaim folded? I could be wrong.

                But yes I loved the All Star Baseball series as well. Hell I still play my expansion franchise every now and again of the Louisville Horsemen. Our home park is Whittaker Grounds and I made us in the AL Central so as not to compete with my Cardinals.

                Yeah I have the Pro Yakyu Spirits 2004 game on the PS2. Fun game, plays an excellent game of baseball. Of course the PS2 graphics are a bit dated, but its fun to play.

                I said that I'm buying 2 baseball games this year but it will actually be 3 as I'll buy the Pro Yakyu Spirits game coming out in April of this year.

                I am not sure if there still making games, last one was 2005 and had a weird outfield camera, but they had a cool roster thing where u could use any face on anyone.



                I have fond memories of ASB the very last game I got to play with my brother on the Nintendo 64 with the expansion pak back then.



                Another baseball game that was ahead of its time.




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                • countryboy
                  Growing pains
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 52731

                  #128
                  Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                  Originally posted by Houston
                  I am not sure if there still making games, last one was 2005 and had a weird outfield camera, but they had a cool roster thing where u could use any face on anyone.



                  I have fond memories of ASB the very last game I got to play with my brother on the Nintendo 64 with the expansion pak back then.



                  Another baseball game that was ahead of its time.



                  Yeah that is the one that I still play. Nothing like having a player miss a game due to diarrhea...
                  I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                  I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                  • sbauer318
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 2511

                    #129
                    Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                    It's amazing how things have changed. This series was the poster child for sports franchises when it came to gameplay, transparency, updates, and depth. I picked up a PS3 and PS4 just for this game. Fast forward to now, and it's Sony's other exclusives, not MLB, keeping me in the Playstation ecosystem. I've gone from trying to figure out how I can get it early to not getting it at all.

                    For me, it's not really about the online franchise. I've just become disinterested in the series in general. For years I was tired of the broken launches and then the lack of updates in modes that I cared about. I know it's early, but this year is starting to feel like every other year.

                    I get it, though. The studio might have monetary goals that they have to hit. You don't hit higher goals by investing a lot of time in things that don't increase DLC revenue when your dev team isn't as large as other teams. I understand it, but that doesn't mean that I'm happy with the direction especially considering how much I used to look forward to this game.
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                    • stevostl
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 558

                      #130
                      Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                      this sucks for me because this is one of the modes that will basically make me buy this game again.

                      I just don't agree with games cutting out options like this in sports games.. instead I think they should be adding more options and new modes. I think every sports game should have at least the same options that NBA2K has... and right now MLB is so far behind in this area and it's making their game appeal look weaker and weaker every year.. because not only are they taking game modes like this away but they haven't added any new ones when they should be doing that at least every other year. also it's great they have DD online but online franchise is good for the older slower pace crowd like me that doesn't play online every day and can just play online with their friends at their own pace in an online franchise and enjoy it. I mean I know i'm being selfish but that's all i want to do with this game is play that... nothing else

                      i look at online franchise mode with friends like playing fantasy baseball... that's what it was like for me,, it was still great even with all it's issues the last time MLB the show had it
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                      • Husker_OS
                        Champs
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 21459

                        #131
                        Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                        As long as the offline stuff is good, I’ll buy it. I don’t think I’ve done anything other than RTTS and rarely an offline franchise.

                        I’m just hoping RTTS gets a new feature or two plus the attribute system goes back to quality of AB instead of currently how it’s done.
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                        • Ballgame59
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                          • Dec 2013
                          • 654

                          #132
                          Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                          Originally posted by stevostl
                          this sucks for me because this is one of the modes that will basically make me buy this game again....
                          i look at online franchise mode with friends like playing fantasy baseball... that's what it was like for me,, it was still great even with all it's issues the last time MLB the show had it
                          Same here. I never would have even bought the game in '14 if not for On-line franchise. In fact, I wasn't friends with my league mates until AFTER I played with these guys. Since then, I've traveled to different states to go to meet up with some of these fellas.

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                          • Artman22
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                            • Jul 2006
                            • 4985

                            #133
                            Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                            Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                            Look man I've always loved this series and its developers like you. But its clear to me DD is where it's at now. They've gotten very lazy on everything else.

                            As for the theory. I never said I believe that. But I do know for a fact they aren't focused on it. And just scrapping online franchise is just wrong and pure laziness.

                            Can't even update real time stats during daily matchups. Yea I'm salty with this company. They pulling the same **** EA does and I never thought I'd see the day.

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                            It’s sad to say this but I agree. This is also what happens when there’s no competition. I personally rather have online franchise the way it was before than to have it taken away and have no online franchise at all. It’s inexcusable to remove online franchise. Their main focus is DD because it’s their money maker. For years I always played online leagues in this game and now that’s just a memory. But since we don’t have options on mlb games to buy most will still go out and buy this game even after them doing stuff like this. This is very disappointing. We criticized EA many years for doing stuff like this and praised SDS for being the game with Devs that came on this site and listened to us and interacted with the forum.


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                            • Houston
                              MVP
                              • May 2003
                              • 4728

                              #134
                              Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                              Originally posted by Artman22
                              It’s sad to say this but I agree. This is also what happens when there’s no competition. I personally rather have online franchise the way it was before than to have it taken away and have no online franchise at all. It’s inexcusable to remove online franchise. Their main focus is DD because it’s their money maker. For years I always played online leagues in this game and now that’s just a memory. But since we don’t have options on mlb games to buy most will still go out and buy this game even after them doing stuff like this. This is very disappointing. We criticized EA many years for doing stuff like this and praised SDS for being the game with Devs that came on this site and listened to us and interacted with the forum.


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                              I agree with this mostly because I would rather have some form of online franchise then none at all. It could be the old code from 17 or even before then where it was only 40 man rosters not a real online franchise more like a basic league, keep the real MLB schedule. Anything would be better than nothing at all.


                              Who knows maybe online franchise say there were 3000 leagues made etc and they were all full rosters 30 teams x 90 players = 2700 players to sync all the information and data maybe it was rough on the servers along with DD. If you lessen the load maybe cut it back to 40 man rosters per team or use some of that DD money and get dedicated servers for both online modes.

                              I will say it again how can you have a sports game without leagues?


                              I imagine football is #1 sport in america and to me baseball could be #1 to me personally , but lets say baseball is #2 then NBA #3 then NHL #4 etc etc... All sports titles should have some form of leagues on them.
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                              • MLB14
                                Pro
                                • May 2014
                                • 636

                                #135
                                Re: No Online Franchise in MLB The Show 19

                                I think the reason they removed online franchise was because they changed their network code system and online franchise code needed to be updated / altered to suit the new network system. They didn't feel it was worth doing that.
                                Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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