MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - Hitting Improvements

[El_MaYiMbE]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - Hitting Improvements

Only 2 things I changed were solid hits and foul frequency to 4

HOF Directional hitting.




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I would think that would cause LESS balls in the gap for contact hitters. The problem SDS is remedying is the lack of "power" (not HR power) from contact hitters. Balls kinda just float when they hit it. One of the guys on stream called them "duck farts".

I am not saying your sliders aren't good, I know who you are, you do good work. But the devs are remedying, confirmed broken code, under the hood that sliders should not be solving for.

Out of the box Jose Ramirez should be just as valuable, if not more, than Giancarlo Stanton. The way The Show treated contact hitters in the past, not so much the case.

Again, I like the honesty, the willingness to address, and the thought process from SDS, as to why it was one way and now another in 2019.

And too be fair, Ramirez maybe is not a good example because he has other redeeming factors that make him good even in The Show. High Contact, High Vision, Discipline, Quirks, etc...and his power is decent.

But guys like Dee Gordon, who have ZERO power essentially, can still rip balls in the gap for for doubles and triples in real life. In MLB The Show 18 you do not see this for those types of hitters. They basically make him a singles hitter.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - Hitting Improvements

I would think that would cause LESS balls in the gap for contact hitters. The problem SDS is remedying is the lack of "power" (not HR power) from contact hitters. Balls kinda just float when they hit it. One of the guys on stream called them "duck farts".

I am not saying your sliders aren't good, I know who you are, you do good work. But the devs are remedying, confirmed broken code, under the hood that sliders should not be solving for.

Out of the box Jose Ramirez should be just as valuable, if not more, than Giancarlo Stanton. The way The Show treated contact hitters in the past, not so much the case.

Again, I like the honesty, the willingness to address, and the thought process from SDS, as to why it was one way and now another in 2019.

And too be fair, Ramirez maybe is not a good example because he has other redeeming factors that make him good even in The Show. High Contact, High Vision, Discipline, Quirks, etc...and his power is decent.

But guys like Dee Gordon, who have ZERO power essentially, can still rip balls in the gap for for doubles and triples in real life. In MLB The Show 18 you do not see this for those types of hitters. They basically make him a singles hitter.

Yeah I made the solid hits adjustment to actually get more bloops and bleeders. As I saw too many hard hit balls. Gap doubles and sometimes triples were not an issue for me.

I agree with contact hitters needing more punch though. No disagreement at all. But in actuality 18 had the best hit variety to date and to me was the most balanced yet. But contact hitters had no real punch as you describe.

It will only get a lot better on 19 for sure and I am very excited to get my hands on the game and see it for myself!


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[Bat]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - Hitting Improvements

Can we remove the R2 pitch types and bunt directions notification while batting, without it affecting pitching this year? It is un-needed and a distraction IMO.



As of now the only way removes pitch types when on the mound.

Thanks

[torpidbeaver]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - Hitting Improvements

If you need any more proof that SDS is focused solely on DD and online, just watch the hitting stream. It's not that the improvements they make to hitting won't potentially be of interest to offline players, it's that any improvement there is completely incidental to the offline experience.

Everything is couched in online terms, how it'll affect the DD players, how the tweaks they make affect the Meta game. I'm either too old to get frustrated or too over it to care much any longer, but I'm a little sad that one of my favorite series is abandoning any pretense towards holding my interest. I still like the core gameplay of batter vs pitcher, but man, I just can't get excited about playing online games against people who spam bunt buttons and rage quit if I steal a base.

I'll wait to see what the other improvements are, but it's looking like another year of stick with OOTP/wait until I can buy MLBtS used for half price.

[cubby blue]

I'm fully confident scea, with improvements to hitting and fielding, that this will be the best gameplay we have seen yet.  If this was madden, i would be very concerned.

[MLB14]

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I'm not trying to piss on anyone's parade here, but developing a game around patching up human-exploited online issues is a weird route.

I know this will result in vs CPU annoyances. It has to. It's just a natural product because a CPU doesn't behave like a human.

It's gonna put the human player at a disadvantage when playing against the CPU UNLESS they accounted for that and programmed things accordingly. I don't think they did because they keep talking about human vs human.

[tessl]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - Hitting Improvements

One thing I'm sure of - they took a big swing at gameplay for mlbts 19. It seems to be mainly a response to what they saw watching people play online.

[2OutRally]

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Based on track record, I have full confidence that they have F’d up ‘19

[MLB14]

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I just thought about it. They don't have the choice to only adjust online gameplay. There's one huge chunk of logic code for gameplay and it's for both online and offline.

So, they chose to adjust the gameplay code to suit online players.. like the bunting, they adjusted it for online and it carried to offline. Bunting offline wasn't an issue, right?

It's not their fault. Having 2 separate pieces of programming for online and offline gameplay would require a lot of work, buuut.. it's starting to become necessary.

You can't run those lame online exploits against the CPU, so these gameplay adjustments may be kinda weird while playing offline. We'll see..

[Padgoi]

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I just thought about it. They don't have the choice to only adjust online gameplay. There's one huge chunk of logic code for gameplay and it's for both online and offline.

So, they chose to adjust the gameplay code to suit online players.. like the bunting, they adjusted it for online and it carried to offline. Bunting offline wasn't an issue, right?

It's not their fault. Having 2 separate pieces of programming for online and offline gameplay would require a lot of work, buuut.. it's starting to become necessary.

You can't run those lame online exploits against the CPU, so these gameplay adjustments may be kinda weird while playing offline. We'll see..

Bunting offline wasn't an issue? Did you try bunting offline last year?

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[Blzer]

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Bunting offline wasn't an issue? Did you try bunting offline last year?

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That read to me like a rhetorical question filled with extreme sarcasm.

He likely has a point, and in place they probably also made some AI alterations along the way. For example, the CPU often played house rules with sacrifice bunts by not throwing to second base to get an easy and obvious force out that they could have gotten. SDS had to put that in there to maintain the value of the user sacrifice bunting when needed still.

They'd throw it there every so often just to mix things up and keep the user honest, but you normally got away with your horrifically-hard bunt as a way of them saying: "Sowwy we pwogwammed weiwd, pwease take dis pwesent."

Oh, and anyone who disputes or doubts this shall be handsomely greeted to with several sample clips that I am able, willing and prepared to record simply to prove the point.

EDIT: All this being said, a mode like Home Run Derby definitely has separate programming in many respects, but also makes a whole lot of sense.

[MLB14]

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Bunting offline wasn't an issue? Did you try bunting offline last year?

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I'm referring to before they changed bunting to offset the online exploit. Was it a problem offline before that?

[Caulfield]

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I'm referring to before they changed bunting to offset the online exploit. Was it a problem offline before that?

I dont recall rocket bunts being in 16, cant remember at all about 17? Maybe 18 was when it reared its ugly head?

[nemesis04]

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I dont recall rocket bunts being in 16, cant remember at all about 17? Maybe 18 was when it reared its ugly head?

It started in 17, the problem before that is every player was a master at bunting no matter the rating and they laid down the perfect bunt. That’s when the bandaids starting showing up.

[Caulfield]

HEY DEVS!

It started in 17, the problem before that is every player was a master at bunting no matter the rating and they laid down the perfect bunt. That’s when the bandaids starting showing up.

I know how to get that fixed: Since there cant be Hey Dev threads, maybe a Hey Dev post will work. Lol

Hey devs,
I cant enjoy DD and spend more money until bunting is fixed.