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  • Councilmann_Jamm
    Pro
    • Feb 2016
    • 745

    #316
    Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

    Originally posted by MrArlingtonBeach
    I have zero knowledge about game design, so if someone else with that expertise can add some info please do. But to my novice eyes, this seems off.

    I mean, just looking at the gameplay updates, presentation changes, creation of 2 new modes, a multitude of additional DD content all year long...they can find time for all that but not rotating schedule in Franchise? I don't know...just seems strange.
    New modes = money. So having resources do that makes perfect sense.

    Adding new code into franchise feature would take time. Then have to see if it's breaks anything else in the mode. Pretty sure Ramone even said while they want to add it it would take 2 cycles to even attempt it. And with the way game is going, I doubt we see any rotation of schedules until they have to build game for new system

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    • HozAndMoose
      MVP
      • Mar 2013
      • 3614

      #317
      Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

      Originally posted by Councilmann_Jamm
      New modes = money. So having resources do that makes perfect sense.

      Adding new code into franchise feature would take time. Then have to see if it's breaks anything else in the mode. Pretty sure Ramone even said while they want to add it it would take 2 cycles to even attempt it. And with the way game is going, I doubt we see any rotation of schedules until they have to build game for new system
      We won't see it until they decide their current engine needs overhauled or they need to move to a new one entirely. That may come with a switch from PS4 to PS5. But it won't be because of it if that makes sense. PS5 is going to be the same architecture (x86) with just more powerful hardware. If they needed to build the game for a new system to get that in it more than likely would have happened with the switch from PS3 to PS4 (Cell to x86).

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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52771

        #318
        Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

        Originally posted by MrArlingtonBeach
        I have zero knowledge about game design, so if someone else with that expertise can add some info please do. But to my novice eyes, this seems off.

        I mean, just looking at the gameplay updates, presentation changes, creation of 2 new modes, a multitude of additional DD content all year long...they can find time for all that but not rotating schedule in Franchise? I don't know...just seems strange.
        I think his time frame is off, but it isn't because they don't have the man power or time so to speak. It's because the code they currently have in place makes the addition of rotating interleague schedules more difficult than even they thought. A few years ago they tried adding it but it kept creating issues so they had to scrap it.

        When they have the time and opportunity to re-write the code, then it will be added. It was stated at one point that to do that, it would take darn near the entire development cycle, thus meaning they couldn't add anything else.
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        • Blzer
          Resident film pundit
          • Mar 2004
          • 42520

          #319
          Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

          So are those MTO team intro videos supposed to have sound? Is it something that's just not in yet, or they had to/wanted to mute for the video itself? I'm guessing the answer itself is yes, but just checking in.

          Sounds like they've also added more of their own generic walkup music stuff, which is always a good thing to have more variety. I'm not about to change every players' walkup songs in SOTS, so the different sounds the better.

          Originally posted by KnightTemplar
          MLB The Show has a poll on Facebook asking which mode you will play most with just two choices, Moments or March to October. Overwhelming answer is....Franchise.
          Why don't they just let their telemetry tell them this when the game comes out?

          I keed, I keed.

          Originally posted by bcruise
          As of right now:

          147 replies (most of which are, yes, people complaining about franchise)

          4,700 votes on the actual poll.

          As always, franchise fans are a loud minority.
          Maybe you're making the same point that I'm about to make, but in case you're making somewhat an opposite point I'd like to offer a little piece on the significance of those numbers.

          Although it pales in comparison, that still seems like a lot of mentions about something that is not even presented as an option in a poll. And that ratio isn't that astounding, either. There will always be more votes than comments for anything.

          For example, Ariana Grande's newest single has over 6 million votes and not even 500k comments. If even 10k of those comments were about Nicki Minaj or something because they are at odds with one another, that would be a considerable anomaly to pay attention to.

          So yes, those franchise commenters are definitely a loud minority in that respect.
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          • MrArlingtonBeach
            MVP
            • Feb 2009
            • 4530

            #320
            Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

            Originally posted by countryboy
            I think his time frame is off, but it isn't because they don't have the man power or time so to speak. It's because the code they currently have in place makes the addition of rotating interleague schedules more difficult than even they thought. A few years ago they tried adding it but it kept creating issues so they had to scrap it.

            When they have the time and opportunity to re-write the code, then it will be added. It was stated at one point that to do that, it would take darn near the entire development cycle, thus meaning they couldn't add anything else.
            Ok, thank you for the clarification.
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            • Therebelyell626
              MVP
              • Mar 2018
              • 2892

              #321
              Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

              Originally posted by bcruise
              From Millennium's stream last night regarding his thoughts on the current franchise mode, MTO, and what he sees it meaning for the future (these topics go through around the 20-minute mark). He does answer a question about OF in-between, but I wanted to start the video where I did because of what he says right at the beginning:

              <iframe src="https://player.twitch.tv/?autoplay=false&t=00h13m28s&video=v391987460" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true" scrolling="no" height="378" width="620"></iframe><a href="https://www.twitch.tv/videos/391987460?t=00h13m28s&tt_content=text_link&tt_medi um=vod_embed" style="padding:2px 0px 4px; display:block; width:345px; font-weight:normal; font-size:10px; text-decoration:underline;">Watch MLB Franchise/MTO Wrap Up Show! from Mills on www.twitch.tv</a>
              I hope to god he's wrong. Only in the sense that of franchise ever becomes reward based we can say goodbye to custom rosters. Now if they could get a minor league license I would be cool with this. I mean minor leaguers are essentially pros the day they get their signing bonus and get paid to play the sport. There's got to be a way to factor them in.

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              • JayhawkerStL
                Banned
                • Apr 2004
                • 3644

                #322
                Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

                Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                Awe, the great conundrum. Darned if you do darned it you don't.
                It’s real life. Spend money and time in what you like, and don’t spend time and money on what you don’t like. That make sure it easy.

                Of course, this takes an ability to accept that not everything has to be just for you. If you feel the need to change every product to be perfect just for you, you will probably bash a lot of windmills, and not much else.

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                • Karle
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 820

                  #323
                  Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

                  Am I missing something? I assume those who enjoy Franchise like to use rosters such as OSFM with all real minor league players. Yet if one saves MTO to Franchise one ends up with a franchise roster of all fictitious minor league players.

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                  • Karle
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 820

                    #324
                    Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

                    I think there is a trend here. In DD, with the possible exception of one player, one is limited to players on cards. In MTO and Moments one is limited to set rosters. Now with the possible transition from MTO to Franchise one is limited to the opening day rosters with fictitious minor leagers. The trend seems to be away from playing with teams with created players.

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                    • dazzelle
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 684

                      #325
                      Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

                      Originally posted by countryboy
                      It was stated at one point that to do that, it would take darn near the entire development cycle, thus meaning they couldn't add anything else.

                      If true then this was the year to get it done.


                      But seriously, i have wondered if that was to incorporate a random schedule creater that could rotate interleague teams or if it also meant that it was difficult to program say 10/20 years worth of pre-determined schedules into franchise.

                      Because having a pre-determined schedule for each season doesn't seem like it would be difficult to implement and would be a improvement over what we get currently imo, but honestly i have no idea about programming so maybe it is impossible.

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                      • moTIGS
                        Pro
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 568

                        #326
                        Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

                        Originally posted by Karle
                        Am I missing something? I assume those who enjoy Franchise like to use rosters such as OSFM with all real minor league players. Yet if one saves MTO to Franchise one ends up with a franchise roster of all fictitious minor league players.

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                        The most downloaded roster (OSFM V1.5) has just 49,500 downloads. That'a a fairly small number relative to total sales.

                        There are thousands of other rosters to download (5,200 or so in the vault right now), but most have few downloads, and I'd bet a lot of those are not unique downloads. A lot also aren't realistic rosters intended for franchise mode (all-time historic rosters, etc).

                        I assume the majority of serious franchise players who use custom rosters will use OSFM rosters, and a lot of those people probably downloaded every version of them.

                        So a fraction of people actually use downloaded rosters (or people who play franchise are a tiny part of the player base). And I'd bet a lot of people who download them don't really care that much but do it because they're there.

                        I'd absolutely like it more if we could use custom rosters. I wish there were an option to use default rosters and get awards or use edited rosters for no rewards. But I'm guessing it simply isn't a huge deal for most people who play the game.

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                        • Themayorofawsometown
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 1101

                          #327
                          Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

                          Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                          I hope to god he's wrong. Only in the sense that of franchise ever becomes reward based we can say goodbye to custom rosters. Now if they could get a minor league license I would be cool with this. I mean minor leaguers are essentially pros the day they get their signing bonus and get paid to play the sport. There's got to be a way to factor them in.
                          It's not gonna happen until they get a union because they aren't gonna play the players individually

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                          • JayhawkerStL
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 3644

                            #328
                            Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

                            I download OSFM rosters, but never use them in franchise. I just want fresh rosters for Play Now. I could care less about the minors.

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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #329
                              Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

                              Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                              I hope to god he's wrong. Only in the sense that of franchise ever becomes reward based we can say goodbye to custom rosters. Now if they could get a minor league license I would be cool with this. I mean minor leaguers are essentially pros the day they get their signing bonus and get paid to play the sport. There's got to be a way to factor them in.
                              There isn't a minor league players association the way there is a MLBPA which is why they can't be negotiated with universally.

                              If there were, they certainly wouldn't be treated as crappily as they are in the minors.


                              (Before questioned, I know they had some in MVP. I don't know the actual answer, but keep in mind, that was before the lawsuits with NCAA happened and there wasn't as much fear of litigation. My guess is they just went out and picked top prospects to create and weren't worried about any repercussions.)

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                              • jerwoods
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 2999

                                #330
                                Re: MLB The Show 19 Twitch Stream - March to October, Franchise, Presentation, Commen

                                here how i would fix this mode

                                1 buy out of park baseball and make it the fran over a 2 or 3 year cylie

                                2 liquid ratings it means for ex M Trout 70-80 or 90-100 u can rate them by how scouts rate them 20-80 or a 40-100 scale

                                work on crowd improvement

                                dip my toe in 1 classic team per team ie 98 yankees 04 red sox 84 det

                                try to add team sounds unique for each team

                                and so on

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