Franchise Mode is Piece of a Bigger Picture Says San Diego Studios

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I will also add as an addendum to my post from before...man, Sony should be truly grateful to both Ramone Russell and Nick Livingston. Without those 2 guys to come out in public and put a friendly face behind all the decisions the company has been making (that many of us do not like), I feel the company would be struggling a lot harder. Just the sheer force of personality of those guys counts for quite a lot in the community, I think, in what customers are willing to tolerate with the direction of the game.

[Willis135]

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Whether this was damage control or not, the fact is the SDS is taking notice of the potential loss of customers due to lack of Franchise improvements.

As for me I am buying this years game as the most important improvements for me are always the improvements made to the actual gameplay.

I am happy that SDS felt that they needed to speak on the topic because it shows that that they are paying attention to those of us who are unhappy about franchise improvements.

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[tabarnes19_SDS]

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This was the first year I was not buying. Last year the game sat on the shelf because I thought franchise mode went backwards. A few years ago only change made was editable contracts. They tried getting real contracts then...

I'm really concerned that the logic won't be tuned for new contracts, trades and arbitration and will be for aesthetics only.

My wife told me tonight she preordered so I'll give it a shot, but my expectations are very low.

Edit: just so people know there is alot of good ideas that the team has for the game and they are limited in what they can do due to programmers and at staff.

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[Willis135]

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This was the first year I was not buying. Last year the game sat on the shelf because I thought franchise mode went backwards. A few years ago only change made was editable contracts. They tried getting real contracts then...

I'm really concerned that the logic won't be tuned for new contracts, trades and arbitration and will be for aesthetics only.

My wife told me tonight she preordered so I'll give it a shot, but my expectations are very low.

Edit: just so people know there is alot of good ideas that the team has for the game and they are limited in what they can do due to programmers and at staff.

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I read somewhere with a quote from a dev saying that they have simmed years into the future and the new contract values have not caused the budget issues that past games have produced. So there is hope.

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[dansaint]

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I applaud Nick and the guys to do that interview. Am I happy that Franchise seems to get minimum updates and care as say DD, RTTS, or Conquest? No. But also, the stuff I would like to see probably couldn't be done in one cycle. It would have to be implemented probably around the time of the new console (expansion/relocation, custom schedule, etc).

As someone who never touches the other modes, yeah, I do feel somewhat like a red headed step child in this situation, but at the same time, the creation of these two new modes, which I probably will dive into a little bit, yeah...it gives me some hope that they are looking toward it.

The improvements they did make to the mode this year (actual AAVs as well as contract extensions) are great 1st steps and here's hoping the other things we are asking for are still on the whiteboard at SDS studios and are being checked off as they can implement them.

Good start, but still a lot more you can do for this mode to make us Franchise guys feel like we aren't being given the scraps of "Well, we'll give them this when we have some free time".

[Impetuous65]

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This argument is a fallacy, it was a convenient excuse for SDS, until this year. When they revealed they were working on this curated MTO experience for franchise and it became so big that it became its own mode. So that took time and resources that they allocated to do. If you notice they said nothing about man power only the dumb compartmentalize statement.

[Impetuous65]

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Since they want all modes to spill over into each other. Since RTTS and Franchise are symbiotic in nature.

In franchise you have RTTS report, why not prompt end-user for some RTTS type experience in the AAA and AA games? It can be a critical situation i.e extend a hitting streak, continue the no hitter ect... You get the challenges and personalities and progression system while you are playing in the minors.


What am I saying we talking about franchise.

[bigtrip88]

Do they expect anyone to believe that...if you go by there actions it’s clear they couldn’t care less about franchise and they are money hungry..and I get it they are a business and business’ s are out to make money but don’t act like that’s not your main goal...and I can’t believe they said franchise took big steps forward this year when it looks like they had one of the devs come in on a Sunday to work on the game so that we could resign players during the season and had a intern give players real contracts ...it looks like they take zero pride in their work,how could they be proud of the work they put into franchise mode

[bigtrip88]

Do they expect anyone to believe that...if you go by there actions it’s clear they couldn’t care less about franchise and they are money hungry..and I get it they are a business and business’ s are out to make money but don’t act like that’s not your main goal...and I can’t believe they said franchise took big steps forward this year when it looks like they had one of the devs come in on a Sunday to work on the game so that we could resign players during the season and had a intern give players real contracts ...it looks like they take zero pride in their work,how could they be proud of the work they put into franchise mode

[RoyalBoyle78]

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Real contracts, about time


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[Scott]

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Do they expect anyone to believe that...if you go by there actions it’s clear they couldn’t care less about franchise and they are money hungry..and I get it they are a business and business’ s are out to make money but don’t act like that’s not your main goal...and I can’t believe they said franchise took big steps forward this year when it looks like they had one of the devs come in on a Sunday to work on the game so that we could resign players during the season and had a intern give players real contracts ...it looks like they take zero pride in their work,how could they be proud of the work they put into franchise mode

Right, because doing mid-season extensions and real contracts is something that could be done in one afternoon. Seriously, that's a slap in the face.

[MLB14]

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I guess their preorder sales aren't as high as they hoped.

[BigOscar]

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Right, because doing mid-season extensions and real contracts is something that could be done in one afternoon. Seriously, that's a slap in the face.

I don't think mid season contracts would even take an afternoon tbh, all the resources for that are already in the game. It's the exact same process as the end of year contracts, just the option to access that screen pops up halfway through the year as well as at the end. The contracts themselves don't come into play until the following year, so it's literally exactly like just offering that contract at the end of the year, as far as I can tell.

Real contracts would have taken longer if they have balanced the finances to match, as they say they have. If they didn't then it's literally an hours work to get the real contracts in, but the balancing and testing would take at least a fair amount of time. The real constraint on this has always supposedly been getting permission, not the time it would take.

Either way, it's really not a particularly large amount of work.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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This was the first year I was not buying. Last year the game sat on the shelf because I thought franchise mode went backwards. A few years ago only change made was editable contracts. They tried getting real contracts then...

I'm really concerned that the logic won't be tuned for new contracts, trades and arbitration and will be for aesthetics only.

My wife told me tonight she preordered so I'll give it a shot, but my expectations are very low.

Edit: just so people know there is alot of good ideas that the team has for the game and they are limited in what they can do due to programmers and at staff.

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I'm pretty sure everyone (well, most everyone) accepts their manpower excuses. But, when other things get massive face lifts year after year, it's not a question of manpower but of prioritization. That their intentions are in other places are what some of us are giving them all hell about.

Right, because doing mid-season extensions and real contracts is something that could be done in one afternoon. Seriously, that's a slap in the face.

I can't program for anything, but I could've banged out the realistic contracts--at least the data entry part in 48 hours. I have done that in the past with Hybrid rosters of yore. That is not hard and it takes very little knowledge. And they aren't finished inputting the values yet...

...the hard part would be coding the game to use these new contracts as its financial "ecosystem" if you will. That I couldn't have done and that I don't think anyone here is confident that Sony has accomplished either. Despite the statement about "simming into the future," nothing has been mentioned about what they looked for or what they saw--the franchise mode stream we didn't have this year would've been a great place to load up some save files and show their new baby off.

[countryboy]

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This thread man....

And people wonder why SDS doesn't interact on the forums anymore.