MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

[asjdwf21]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

The question is still are they going to patch this or not?


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[MDgolf]

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The question is still are they going to patch this or not?


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I’m a betting man and I would say 0.0 chance


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[XxGamerXx]

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I understand this, and I’m a video director for major sports organizations. But I’m also telling you that it has made all of the difference when switching displays with all of the other specs staying the same. So there has to be something going on here that isn’t obvious framerate drops due to the game only.

There is no tv displays that can fix Frame Rate issues.....There is nothing more to this but placebo

[bigwill33]

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There is no tv displays that can fix Frame Rate issues.....There is nothing more to this but placebo

This is my point. And it is not placebo. Certain people are not getting these issues that I had before. And perhaps that reason is because it isn’t framerate which is what we are noticing. You can repeat that until you’re blue in the face, it’s not helping SDS or anyone. I understand framerate and work in video. This Vizio is a low-end tv and is not presenting the issues in which I was seeing rampantly with my high end Samsung.

Now either more people can try other TV’s like I’ve had to, or we can all keep pounding our heads about framerate. Bottom line is SDS wouldn’t patch something they can’t recreate in studio or something that isn’t universally broken for most to all customers. So when people say that they aren’t noticing the problem I am tending to believe them. Just as I believe everyone who is. Because now I’ve been on both sides.

I’m not stating that this is a fix to any problem, I’m just stating that perhaps the issue doesn’t seem to be what we all thought it was. If SDS is only testing the game on certain TV’s or displays then they may not be able to recreate it in the studio. More information about what displays we are using is needed, along with what PS4, stadiums, time of day, crowd size, weather, players and teams used, internet connected or not, etc.

Or we can sit her and spin out tires just repeating that the framerate is busted, when clearly that is not the case for the overwhelming majority of customers.

[Blzer]

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Now either more people can try other TV’s like I’ve had to, or we can all keep pounding our heads about framerate. Bottom line is SDS wouldn’t patch something they can’t recreate in studio or something that isn’t universally broken for most to all customers. So when people say that they aren’t noticing the problem I am tending to believe them. Just as I believe everyone who is. Because now I’ve been on both sides.

I’m not stating that this is a fix to any problem, I’m just stating that perhaps the issue doesn’t seem to be what we all thought it was. If SDS is only testing the game on certain TV’s or displays then they may not be able to recreate it in the studio. More information about what displays we are using is needed, along with what PS4, stadiums, time of day, crowd size, weather, players and teams used, internet connected or not, etc.

I mean, I don't get what you're intimating, then. I'm literally capturing gameplay at 60 FPS, and I can play it frame by frame to my heart's desire. I can witness which frames repeat and which do not. That has nothing to do with whether I am playing on a Vizio or a Samsung, using basic HDMI cables or one made of diamonds, etc. That is game performance. That is being done at the game's level.

[XxGamerXx]

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This is my point. And it is not placebo. Certain people are not getting these issues that I had before. And perhaps that reason is because it isn’t framerate which is what we are noticing. You can repeat that until you’re blue in the face, it’s not helping SDS or anyone. I understand framerate and work in video. This Vizio is a low-end tv and is not presenting the issues in which I was seeing rampantly with my high end Samsung.

Now either more people can try other TV’s like I’ve had to, or we can all keep pounding our heads about framerate. Bottom line is SDS wouldn’t patch something they can’t recreate in studio or something that isn’t universally broken for most to all customers. So when people say that they aren’t noticing the problem I am tending to believe them. Just as I believe everyone who is. Because now I’ve been on both sides.

I’m not stating that this is a fix to any problem, I’m just stating that perhaps the issue doesn’t seem to be what we all thought it was. If SDS is only testing the game on certain TV’s or displays then they may not be able to recreate it in the studio. More information about what displays we are using is needed, along with what PS4, stadiums, time of day, crowd size, weather, players and teams used, internet connected or not, etc.

Or we can sit her and spin out tires just repeating that the framerate is busted, when clearly that is not the case for the overwhelming majority of customers.

Listen I get your point but is not our job to fix SCEA game. There is plenty of people who have reported the issue. Even some prominent members of OS so those that are having the smoothest experience ever cannot call out those who have no history of lying.

I will humor you for a second and tell you that if your old vizio is fixing the issue this is not a fix and the game performs the same on any tv.

The issue is FPS drops nothing more and nothing less, those that CLAIM they have the smoothest experience are just use to crappy FPS drops in consoles or this game but there is absolutely zero truth to those claiming smooth experience in this game. The game is the same for all but others choose not to bash a game they praise year long or are use to the bad fps of the game that they feel is normal and smooth

As am typing this I am playing a regular exhibition game in Coors field at 7pm June normal sky

The fps drop is soooo bad is beyond words in this park and I can tell you right now the issue without having to test old Vizio tvs or other tvs

I have played the game on a Samsung Q8FN LED tv, an LG C8 OLED, and the Asus monitor and the issue is the same in all of them

To go further I have an old Westinghouse led 1080p tv that is about 12 years old or a bit less and the issue is there

The more SCEA puts into stadiums and improve lighting the worst FPS drops will occur because the PS4 PRO is not capable. I bet that you can get a 60fps in balance all the time if SCEA remove shadows and reduced lighting.

What you are reporting on the old Vizio seems to be more tied to input lag or motion of the display which has ZERO to do with the issue that is dropped fps

You can get much better smoothing depending on the tv but that has nothing to do with FPS drops which are all tied to the things I mentioned.

[XxGamerXx]

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Guys go play a regular game in Coors Field June normal weather at 7pm and it starts with shadows and sun light early in the game and the FPS is soooo bad

Test it

PS4 PRo balanced mode

[KnightTemplar]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

the FPS is soooo bad

Test it

PS4 PRo balanced mode

Video, please.

[JTommy67]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

I'll comment since I just bought a new Toshiba 4k HDR television. I do indeed see framerate degradation at the sharpened mode (HDR on)...on "faster" the game runs smooth as silk, however.

For me, though...I'm far enough away from the screen that I can't tell much of a difference between 2160p and 1080p, so I'm fine with playing at the lower resolution. But consider this...

If the game could run smoothly without issue at 2160p on ANY 4K television, what would even be the point of offering different settings to accommodate varying levels of sharpness and framerate? This seems almost an explicit admission that they expect a framerate degradation on the higher resolutions...otherwise we would have one setting. Who would want to play at 1080p with 60 fps if there were no issues at 2160p with 60 fps?

They seem to be acknowledging that some players might not mind or aren't bothered by the performance hit at higher settings. If that's you then great, but for this reason I would not expect a fix. Perhaps because I'm older and can remember playing games at 640x480, I have a harder time complaining about 1080p, but I do admit I see performance stuttering at 2160p.

[Blzer]

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Video, please.

I'm getting there soon on my framerate test tour. Before that I'll be getting Guaranteed Rate Field and Progressive Field.

By the way, anyone else notice that "stutters" has been misspelled in the thread title this entire time? First there were frame skips, and now there are letter skips??

[KnightTemplar]

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I'm getting there soon on my framerate test tour. Before that I'll be getting Guaranteed Rate Field and Progressive Field.
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This was addressed toward xxGamerxx. I’ve watched a lot of videos on YouTube, explored other boards and I’m just not seeing an “unplayable” issue or out cry. SDS isn’t going to “fix” an “unplayable”, “gross” game when it seems to be anything but, coupled with the fact a “fix” might not be necessary. Just sayin.

[FrodoUK]

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I'm tempted to buy it just to see what all the drama is about [emoji23]

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[KingOfLanglade]

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This was addressed toward xxGamerxx. I’ve watched a lot of videos on YouTube, explored other boards and I’m just not seeing an “unplayable” issue or out cry. SDS isn’t going to “fix” an “unplayable”, “gross” game when it seems to be anything but, coupled with the fact a “fix” might not be necessary. Just sayin.

Unplayable is not the right word. But, when playing on higher pitch speeds, and difficulty it certainly is a less enjoyable experience than in years past. Tracking pitches is so hard with ball seemingly skipping as it comes to the plate. This is legend level batting, with pitch speeds of 8/8.

[KingOfLanglade]

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I'm tempted to buy it just to see what all the drama is about [emoji23]

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This isn’t necessary, nor does it drive this conversation forward.


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[FrodoUK]

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This isn’t necessary, nor does it drive this conversation forward.


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Why doesn't it? I don't own it currently but if I do buy it I'll be able to add to the list of people noticing the issue and hopefully this will make the development team notice.

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