MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

**countryboy** · 04-14-2019, 08:22 PM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

Originally posted by MDgolf

Yes I turned boost mode off on my pro. It may be in my head but I think it has helped...

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Hey in your head or not, if its making the game more enjoyable for you, then roll with it for the time being.

**jeffy777** · 04-14-2019, 09:46 PM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

Originally posted by countryboy

I can understand the frustration as well. But at this time if your experiencing the issue you have two options:

1) Try to make the best of it and play through the issue

2) Wait and see if a fix comes and play something else in the meantime

Continually posting here complaining isn’t going to solve anything. The devs know it’s a problem and they are looking into it.

Bigwill tried to offer help and was essentially ran out of the thread. I would’ve thought if the objective was to get the game playing smoother people would be more receptive to listening and trying any help offered instead of shooting it down and then complaining.

But if the objective is to find fault with the game and use it as ammunition to blast SDS and the game, well I guess this thread is perfect.

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We have been receptive, but the problem is that some of those trying to “help” were really trying to suggest that the problem didn’t really exist, and then resorted to name calling when people didn’t respond well to their “help”. I don’t know who Bigwill is, but Preston was one who comes to mind and I just saw that he’s now banned, and can’t say I’m surprised heh.

But I agree with everything else you said, CB.

**countryboy** · 04-14-2019, 09:59 PM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

Originally posted by jeffy777

We have been receptive, but the problem is that some of those trying to “help” were really trying to suggest that the problem didn’t really exist, and then resorted to name calling when people didn’t respond well to their “help”. I don’t know who Bigwill is, but Preston was one who comes to mind and I just saw that he’s now banned, and can’t say I’m surprised heh.

But I agree with everything else you said, CB.

Nobody should be suggesting that the problem doesn't exist. And I'm not sure who Preston is, but if he's now banned then that's a positive.

Bigwill was talking about how he experienced the issue on a newer TV, but not an older one. He wasn't debunking the issue nor saying it didn't exist, but was rather offering up a possible reason/solution for the cause and was blasted for his efforts.

**Blzer** · 04-14-2019, 10:06 PM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

I hope you don't call my posts "blasting him." He never responded to me, in fact. KT still has yet to respond to me, either. He keeps saying videos aren't posted, and I keep saying that not only have I posted videos, but the videos are in support to the numbers I am putting up.

Televisions can help alter the perception of what's under the hood, and I mentioned that. You can have LCD technology with motion blur, you can use some frame interpolation motion judder canceller of sorts, etc. Some of them may help, some of them aren't a pleasurable effect for people, some of them introduce input lag... but they don't internally change something that's going on in the game. That's all. I even mentioned this in response to one of his posts here.

Like, say somebody says they upscaled their game to 4K on their TV and it just looks great. I don't doubt that it does, plus you can get the added advantage of a higher framerate (don't know if you can get HDR that way). This doesn't mean the game is playing in 4K, though. I hope that makes sense. We're talking about what is being processed from the game, not what is being perceived from the television.

Nobody has been "ran out of this thread," especially not me. I hope that people are reading all of the posts, though. Any time I post, it seems it's glossed entirely over. I'm willing to read everything bigwill33 says, and I'm not dismissing any of it. We're probably calling the same thing two different things, though.

**XxGamerXx** · 04-15-2019, 12:27 AM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

Originally posted by countryboy

I can understand the frustration as well. But at this time if your experiencing the issue you have two options:

1) Try to make the best of it and play through the issue

2) Wait and see if a fix comes and play something else in the meantime

Continually posting here complaining isn’t going to solve anything. The devs know it’s a problem and they are looking into it.

Bigwill tried to offer help and was essentially ran out of the thread. I would’ve thought if the objective was to get the game playing smoother people would be more receptive to listening and trying any help offered instead of shooting it down and then complaining.

But if the objective is to find fault with the game and use it as ammunition to blast SDS and the game, well I guess this thread is perfect.

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CB please continue to try and take shots at me without naming me. I was one of the first to post about the issue and was told by others that I am just part of the usual 5 or so guys who want to blast the game every year for kicks and made up frame rate issues.

When more and more started to post about it you created the thread. I am not sure if you realize that we are customers and not game developers so to think that the thread you created was for others to help fix the issue is beyond me. NOBODY can fix the game because the issue is game development and not tied to any tv or monitor. IF we all reported the issue once and that was it like you want it to be the thread would have been on page 20 by now and no views. I know this game cannot do wrong as your most critical comment of the game is irrelevant things

I gave the game the ultimate respect by saying it is a great game this year after it got stale for me the last 2 years. But this issue is terrible and ruins the experience FOR ME. Sure I can gut through it by why do we have to accept it just because SCEA may or may not have the time to fix the issue?

Telling us to accept it or wait for a fix and move along is not customer friendly. As for saying that the devs are aware I am not sure that flies. The community manager said he would send the feedback to the team. That does not mean they acknowledge the issue and told us they will work on it for a future patch. That would end the bickering and the thread but hearing a community manager tell us they will send the feedback over is not what I consider they are working on it. Unless you heard the devs acknowledge the issue and are working on a fix, it means nothing.

Blazer has done great work to show the issue and this thread is going to be helpful for SCEA to do something about it because the game is that good this year.

Fingers crossed.

**Blzer** · 04-15-2019, 01:10 AM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

Here's a comparison of The Show 18 vs. 19 at Yankee Stadium. I play the clip of the same pitch a total of five times: twice at real speed, once at 50% speed, once at 25% speed, then back at real speed one more time.

https://youtu.be/Eu26GTg1J6I

**jeffy777** · 04-15-2019, 04:05 AM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

Very nice work, Blzer.

I truly hope we can avoid making this thread personal and just focus on the issue at hand as there is definitely some helpful stuff being posted here, and I'm still holding out hope for a patch.

**countryboy** · 04-15-2019, 08:09 AM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

Originally posted by XxGamerXx

CB please continue to try and take shots at me without naming me. I was one of the first to post about the issue and was told by others that I am just part of the usual 5 or so guys who want to blast the game every year for kicks and made up frame rate issues.

When more and more started to post about it you created the thread. I am not sure if you realize that we are customers and not game developers so to think that the thread you created was for others to help fix the issue is beyond me. NOBODY can fix the game because the issue is game development and not tied to any tv or monitor. IF we all reported the issue once and that was it like you want it to be the thread would have been on page 20 by now and no views. I know this game cannot do wrong as your most critical comment of the game is irrelevant things

I gave the game the ultimate respect by saying it is a great game this year after it got stale for me the last 2 years. But this issue is terrible and ruins the experience FOR ME. Sure I can gut through it by why do we have to accept it just because SCEA may or may not have the time to fix the issue?

Telling us to accept it or wait for a fix and move along is not customer friendly. As for saying that the devs are aware I am not sure that flies. The community manager said he would send the feedback to the team. That does not mean they acknowledge the issue and told us they will work on it for a future patch. That would end the bickering and the thread but hearing a community manager tell us they will send the feedback over is not what I consider they are working on it. Unless you heard the devs acknowledge the issue and are working on a fix, it means nothing.

Blazer has done great work to show the issue and this thread is going to be helpful for SCEA to do something about it because the game is that good this year.

Fingers crossed.

Never took shots at you, but if the shoe fits.....

Used to be that when an issue like this came about, the community would come together and try to at least band aid the issue until a better fix came down the line. Sadly I guess those days are gone.

And please...don't reply to this post with how nobody can fix it and puff your chest about how stupid somebody must be to try to help or is lying because they aren't seeing the issue. We've all heard you the first dozen or so times you've posted that thought.

**RoyalBoyle78** · 04-15-2019, 09:46 AM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

Listen, its sucks some of you guys have been experiencing this issue, but again I have not see any Frame drops since day one and still haven't.

I will try the Coors Field theory later tonight will the settings I have seen some say to test on. I will broadcast it LIVE on You tube and report back, but whoever is saying the SHOW is unplayable is flat out crazy IMO. Again I have no issues.

Watch my First game I broadcasted and you tell me if you see a single drop through this game at all and I mean at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOu7bBtH7F0

**KingOfLanglade** · 04-15-2019, 10:05 AM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

Originally posted by Blzer

Here's a comparison of The Show 18 vs. 19 at Yankee Stadium. I play the clip of the same pitch a total of five times: twice at real speed, once at 50% speed, once at 25% speed, then back at real speed one more time.

https://youtu.be/Eu26GTg1J6I

Great stuff Blzer. I play on higher pitch speeds, and these hitches are even more exasperating. This is such an incredible game, so I hope they work this out for us who are feeling it.

**XxGamerXx** · 04-15-2019, 10:12 AM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

Originally posted by Blzer

Here's a comparison of The Show 18 vs. 19 at Yankee Stadium. I play the clip of the same pitch a total of five times: twice at real speed, once at 50% speed, once at 25% speed, then back at real speed one more time.

https://youtu.be/Eu26GTg1J6I

Great work....Blaze

I hope that before April ends we get a fix

**MDgolf** · 04-15-2019, 10:18 AM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

You message Ramone on twitter and he doesn’t reply. Not sure why he can’t just say thanks for the heads up etc...

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**Blzer** · 04-15-2019, 10:31 AM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

In defense of XxGamerXx (and believe me countryboy, I'm in the same position as you regarding the ethical morality this community should uphold in working considerably toward a remedy for the cause), I think it's still important that he states what he does so that either (a) the developers decide not to attempt a workaround as a result, and (b) so that we don't lean only toward an expensive fix such as purchasing a new television.

That being said, this goes back to bigwill33, and anybody who has seen the issue on one TV but not another:

The reality is that even if the effect is lessened or diminished by trying a new television, that the TV itself isn't changing the spin of the disc/disk. Could any of you please watch my YouTube video I last posted in the TV that shows the framerate issues, and then watch the same YouTube video on the TV that addresses them? If it seems to still address it, we need to make sense to the fact that it is the TV that is providing the perception of an improved framerate, not the reality of one.

Those are the semantics that I think I am on the divide line of that separates XxGamerXx and bigwill33. Nobody is trying to run each other out of the thread. We just have to acknowledge why apparent fixes are what they are, we're not saying that you're wrong. Unfortunately though, it might not necessarily help others at the same time.

**audbal** · 04-15-2019, 10:39 AM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

Originally posted by RoyalBoyle14

Listen, its sucks some of you guys have been experiencing this issue, but again I have not see any Frame drops since day one and still haven't.

I will try the Coors Field theory later tonight will the settings I have seen some say to test on. I will broadcast it LIVE on You tube and report back, but whoever is saying the SHOW is unplayable is flat out crazy IMO. Again I have no issues.

Watch my First game I broadcasted and you tell me if you see a single drop through this game at all and I mean at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOu7bBtH7F0

Do you have the actual game disk or the digital download?

**areobee401** · 04-15-2019, 10:45 AM

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

All I know is turning off Game Motion Plus helped mask the stutter effect enough to make it nearly unrecognizable. But even then I do notice it from time to time, just not close to the frequency I once did.

The perception of a fix is good enough for me, because in reality that is all I can control, and do not expect a fix to come from the developer anytime soon (at all, to be perfectly honest).

Hopefully the rest of you find a solution that works well enough for you to enjoy the game.

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