MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

[Blzer]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

Listen, its sucks some of you guys have been experiencing this issue, but again I have not see any Frame drops since day one and still haven't.


I will try the Coors Field theory later tonight will the settings I have seen some say to test on. I will broadcast it LIVE on You tube and report back, but whoever is saying the SHOW is unplayable is flat out crazy IMO. Again I have no issues.


Watch my First game I broadcasted and you tell me if you see a single drop through this game at all and I mean at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOu7bBtH7F0

To be fair, you're not playing at 60 FPS. I don't know if this conversation was ever for the Sharper mode, or even the Balanced mode. When it was, I brought up the fact that it would also be less recognizable because theoretically there already are framerate drops (since maybe you're playing at 30 FPS instead of 60, if that makes sense).

I believe this conversation was brought up by people who play Faster mode, like myself.

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

Do you have the actual game disk or the digital download?

digital always

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

To be fair, you're not playing at 60 FPS. I don't know if this conversation was ever for the Sharper mode, or even the Balanced mode. When it was, I brought up the fact that it would also be less recognizable because theoretically there already are framerate drops (since maybe you're playing at 30 FPS instead of 60, if that makes sense).

I believe this conversation was brought up by people who play Faster mode, like myself.

I play on Balanced, so your saying Balanced mode is not 60fps?

[countryboy]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

In defense of XxGamerXx (and believe me countryboy, I'm in the same position as you regarding the ethical morality this community should uphold in working considerably toward a remedy for the cause), I think it's still important that he states what he does so that either (a) the developers decide not to attempt a workaround as a result, and (b) so that we don't lean only toward an expensive fix such as purchasing a new television.

That being said, this goes back to bigwill33, and anybody who has seen the issue on one TV but not another:

The reality is that even if the effect is lessened or diminished by trying a new television, that the TV itself isn't changing the spin of the disc/disk. Could any of you please watch my YouTube video I last posted in the TV that shows the framerate issues, and then watch the same YouTube video on the TV that addresses them? If it seems to still address it, we need to make sense to the fact that it is the TV that is providing the perception of an improved framerate, not the reality of one.

Those are the semantics that I think I am on the divide line of that separates XxGamerXx and bigwill33. Nobody is trying to run each other out of the thread. We just have to acknowledge why apparent fixes are what they are, we're not saying that you're wrong. Unfortunately though, it might not necessarily help others at the same time.

I don't know the likelihood that either of those two things would happen, but that's not what I'm getting at.

Look at aerobee's post. He turned off an option and it has made the issue more tolerable for him. MDGolf I think turned on boost mode and it helped him.

Even if these are nothing more than perception fixes, they are better than nothing because they allow the user to enjoy the game more.

Now what if someone was experiencing the issue and came into this thread looking for help. And they see someone mention turning on/off an option that helped them, but then you have someone shooting down that "fix" and the person that came into the thread leaves thinking nothing will help them, when in actuality maybe one of those options could have.

That's what I'm talking about and what is frustrating these days. Nobody offering a remedy or "fix" is trying to silence the issue. Those not experiencing the issue are not saying its not an issue. But as a community the only thing we have control over is trying to make the best of the situation, if possible, until an actual fix, if it comes, from the developers is released.

If that's not happening then this thread really serves no purpose, as those experiencing the issue can go to the bug thread, submit their bug report and go on.

[MDgolf]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

I don't know the likelihood that either of those two things would happen, but that's not what I'm getting at.



Look at aerobee's post. He turned off an option and it has made the issue more tolerable for him. MDGolf I think turned on boost mode and it helped him.



Even if these are nothing more than perception fixes, they are better than nothing because they allow the user to enjoy the game more.



Now what if someone was experiencing the issue and came into this thread looking for help. And they see someone mention turning on/off an option that helped them, but then you have someone shooting down that "fix" and the person that came into the thread leaves thinking nothing will help them, when in actuality maybe one of those options could have.



That's what I'm talking about and what is frustrating these days. Nobody offering a remedy or "fix" is trying to silence the issue. Those not experiencing the issue are not saying its not an issue. But as a community the only thing we have control over is trying to make the best of the situation, if possible, until an actual fix, if it comes, from the developers is released.



If that's not happening then this thread really serves no purpose, as those experiencing the issue can go to the bug thread, submit their bug report and go on.

I turned off boost mode. I think it’s slightly helped? Also turning my PS4 Pro off when I’m done instead of rest mode has also helped I think. Again this may be just my mid playing tricks but it has been a lot smoother. I only play on Faster mode with HDR on. HDR off with faster mode looks terrible. I have a high end TV. Sony XBR 900F. My other games look amazing. It’s too bad that I have to sacrifice visually to get this game to play with no hiccups. But at this point I will do what I have to do to not experience these lockups. Other games like FIFA, NHL and Madden has never had this. MLB has had this for years but last year was much better. This is a legacy issue so shame on Sony really. I have a small business and if there is a slight problem with an order I bend over backwards to appease the customer. Big companies should do the same. Most American companies do. SDS Demi da me of Rogers and Tim Hortons in Canada. They basically have a monopoly and don’t really care and address their customer concerns at all. Comes off very condescending. I’m making it personal because this thread could have been right out of 2011...


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[Blzer]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

I play on Balanced, so your saying Balanced mode is not 60fps?

Admittedly, since they introduced Faster mode in 17 (which they called "High Frame Rate" at the time), I haven't looked back. However, that was because it was at 60 FPS whereas the default was not. Not like the default was 30 FPS, either. If you want me to get you an actual framerate, I'll have to check again when I'm playing.

Regardless, your video was captured and uploaded to YouTube at 30 FPS. Any potential frame dips/hitches would likely be unforeseen at that framerate anyway, if there are any to speak of. That's the point, though: 60 FPS is so buttery smooth in comparison, that any stutters of any sort will likely be noticeable.

I don't know the likelihood that either of those two things would happen, but that's not what I'm getting at.

Look at aerobee's post. He turned off an option and it has made the issue more tolerable for him. MDGolf I think turned on boost mode and it helped him.

Even if these are nothing more than perception fixes, they are better than nothing because they allow the user to enjoy the game more.

Now what if someone was experiencing the issue and came into this thread looking for help. And they see someone mention turning on/off an option that helped them, but then you have someone shooting down that "fix" and the person that came into the thread leaves thinking nothing will help them, when in actuality maybe one of those options could have.

That's what I'm talking about and what is frustrating these days. Nobody offering a remedy or "fix" is trying to silence the issue. Those not experiencing the issue are not saying its not an issue. But as a community the only thing we have control over is trying to make the best of the situation, if possible, until an actual fix, if it comes, from the developers is released.

If that's not happening then this thread really serves no purpose, as those experiencing the issue can go to the bug thread, submit their bug report and go on.

Man, you're right on point. Hopefully you understand my attempts are to get factual intel on how much is affecting which stadiums, and also to show the reality of the issue. I'm also looking to identify what in particular is causing it, though I'm not sure I'll ever actually know what it is (for example, Faster plays flawlessly in Home Run Derby with a full crowd in those bad stadiums, but just as bad as regular games in Practice mode).

The only real thing I can address as of this point is the fielding camera, by suggesting that others attempt to try another camera other than dynamic, like Retro. Sometimes there will be a hitch or two right off of contact, but it comes and goes before you need to track the ball at all, which is nice.

As for PS4's internal processing features, I know people have brought them up, and I have disregarded them without trying them, but I mentioned why as well:

• Boost mode shouldn't affect this game one way or another, because that checkbox doesn't touch games that were made after the Pro enhancements became effective.
• Supersampling shouldn't affect Faster mode, because it only operates for signals that are above 1080p, like 1440p or 2160p. So it may affect Balanced or Sharper, but Faster shouldn't be altered in any way in particular.

However, being that I am who I am, I decided to do another video test with both Boost Mode and Supersampling disabled. You'll just have to take my word for it that I actually did in fact turn both off.

https://youtu.be/WeXIzTUY0XU

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My results have confirmed my suspicions that nothing has changed. At least, not with the batting camera.

[audbal]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

digital always

Could that be the issue? I have a disc and I see the stutter.

[XxGamerXx]

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I play on Balanced, so your saying Balanced mode is not 60fps?

No mode in the game is 60fps. So we can get that out of the way

Sucks that Digital Foundry is not testing the game and this is a good thing for those claiming smooth experience because no chance this game hits 60fps in any mode

[Blzer]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

No mode in the game is 60fps. So we can get that out of the way

Sucks that Digital Foundry is not testing the game and this is a good thing for those claiming smooth experience because no chance this game hits 60fps in any mode

Faster mode absolutely does, assuming the right stadium and situation (by situation, I mean like maybe the batter-pitcher interface as opposed to the cutscenes... or a previous year's version of the game).

My tests that I'm doing are valid, and they are as such: I capture using 59.94 FPS ("true 60") on the elgato HD60, then upon playback I can hit all 60 frames within a second's time. What is that, if not 60 FPS?

Take my videos at the Spring Training stadium, for example. These are 60 FPS through and through. If you don't believe they are, you are going to have to be specific in explaining not only how they're not, but how my explanation too is an invalid one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Evch6RPWFI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaQGsnQOFPA

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And to clarify, I realize that YouTube compresses the hell out of videos. It turns one of these potentially 1GB large videos to 25MB. But it still mimics the idea of 1080p and 60 FPS. I'm talking about at the capturing level, though. A new frame can be drawn 60 times in a second, as is happening for sure at the Spring Training stadium during gameplay moments.

By the way, I should start capturing my videos with my Darbee as well, making the game look sexier than hell in the process.

[Willis135]

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Anyone else feel the balanced mode runs more smoothly than faster this year? I have always played on faster but just played a game in Toronto and the pitching meter on faster mode was clearly skipping frames or adding frames, point is it wasnt smooth at all.

For the heck of it, I switched from faster to balanced and the pitching meter smoothed right out. Anyone have a similar experience?

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[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

No mode in the game is 60fps. So we can get that out of the way

Sucks that Digital Foundry is not testing the game and this is a good thing for those claiming smooth experience because no chance this game hits 60fps in any mode

The Show Runs 60fps in 1080p locked if I'm not mistaken.

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

No mode in the game is 60fps. So we can get that out of the way

Sucks that Digital Foundry is not testing the game and this is a good thing for those claiming smooth experience because no chance this game hits 60fps in any mode

The Show Runs 60fps in 1080p locked if I'm not mistaken. And in Faster mode on the Pro I believe it runs 60fps or close to it.

[Blzer]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

The Show Runs 60fps in 1080p locked if I'm not mistaken. And in Faster mode on the Pro I believe it runs 60fps or close to it.

Faster mode is 1080p. I think the base PS4 does 1080p in a framerate equivalent to what Balanced provides, whereas PS4's Balanced is that same framerate but in 1440p. This is the idea, at least.

And it doesn't always hit 60 FPS during gameplay in 19, that's why this thread exists. It pretty much did in 17 and 18 during gameplay (not talking cutscenes, or throws back to the pitcher, or whatever), and it can in the Spring Training stadium and very close to it in some other parks if not exactly it. Yankee Stadium though, as I keep pointing out, hits closer to 50 FPS.

[puff1105]

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I'm currently playing MLB18 but have purchased MLB19. I have played one entire season and am only 34 games from finishing the 2nd season. My question is should I just finish out with MLB18 or is it worth it to move to 19 and bring over my current season. My concern is I don't want there to be huge issues when I have invested so much time, but I'm eager to see this year's game.

[mariner690]

Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

I'm currently playing MLB18 but have purchased MLB19. I have played one entire season and am only 34 games from finishing the 2nd season. My question is should I just finish out with MLB18 or is it worth it to move to 19 and bring over my current season. My concern is I don't want there to be huge issues when I have invested so much time, but I'm eager to see this year's game.

It’s really your call and what you like or dislike about the game. I played 18 more than any other version and was excited for 19. But I have stopped playing it for now because the frame rate is poor and I find myself obsessing over it. Others don’t seem to notice any issue or it does not bother them enough to affect how much they play.

IMO there was not any ground breaking updates that make 19 a must own over 18 for franchise players. I think 18 was a major upgrade over 17. If your just playing franchise the only things you would be missing is the handful of park updates, Marlins new logo. The realistic contracts obviously would affect you with a carryover.


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