Re: HDR on or Off?

[sva91]

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MLB 19



So I’ve noticed like a lot of HDR games, they looked washed out when turned on, but turn it off, it looks better. What do you think ?



I’m on a Sony 930e

I’ve had this issue before. Sometimes you have to make sure everything is turned on in your ps4 video output settings. Make sure those are correct first.


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[Assassin]

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So the TV going to a darker phase every once in awhile is normal? I ask cause I've never paid alot of attention to this. I just want to make sure it's normal.

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[mbergh22]

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HDR for me looks phenomenal this year. I’m using a Sony x800d 43” so defintently nowhere near an elite TV but everything is spot on to me. I have my TV setup to rtings recommendations if that matters for anyone using the same tv.

I have that exact tv too and it looks great

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[Mercury112491]

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My LG B7 had a 'whoa' type of difference when turning on HDR -- in a good way!



When I bought my TV I went to a forum with TV nerds (i think it was avsforum). They had a good starting point for fine-tuning your TV's color settings. Obviously panel to panel it differs, but gave me a great starting point. Not sure if that plays a part, but if you are getting worse results with HDR on, that might be a place to start.

I have a B7 as well. What settings do you use? I get super nervous about burn in with it so I’m always weary of HDR since normally the panel light is turned up so high for it.


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[McPizza]

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It really is all about your TV. Some do HDR beautifully (the way it was intended), and many do not. If you are shopping for a new TV be sure to read reviews specifically regarding the HDR performance of the model you are interested in.
I did this...and am thrilled with how The Show looks in HDR. The day games especially look extremely realistic. The colors and sunlight are incredible...without any "wash out" effect at all.

[statum71]

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If your TV isn’t an HDR tv then it’s probably best to leave it off.

I have a 4K HDR tv and it looks sensational with HDR mode turned on.


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[LastActionHero]

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If your TV isn’t an HDR tv then it’s probably best to leave it off.

I have a 4K HDR tv and it looks sensational with HDR mode turned on.


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The game detects if your tv has HDR. If you don’t then the option is greyed out and you can’t even turn it on.

[DavidPuddy]

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ok, so after flipping back and forth Ive decided to go with HDR ON.

With HDR off I found it more contrasty and colours a bit more saturated, the darks were dark and the whites were maybe too white, I thought shadows were more pronounced as well.

After re-evaluating with HDR on and turning on 'live' colour to medium the colours are popping more and the skin tones and things like that do look more realistic.

HDR ON does seem to be better after spending more time with it.

[dubplate]

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Dynamic Contrast does terrible things to SDR content but some TVs have seemingly been designed to need it to process HDR (some Samsungs and LGs for example). I notice very little crushing or blown out whites when it’s set to low but they can rear their head when it’s set to high (plus a tendency for colors to become over saturated). Adjustments can be made to other settings to reduce the processing problems introduced by high Dynamic Contrast and I’ve been fiddling with them since installing The Show 19 since it’s pretty much the only game I use my Game Mode HDR settings on.

Good to know. I’ll set it to low when playing games and watching UHD movies to see what kind of difference it makes for me.

[dukebeatsuncagainn]

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4k and HDR increase input lag a lot. Looks amazing, but for timing based hitting, PCI aim and other competitive games...gotta turn both off

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[JayhawkerStL]

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HDR can be a mess due to an extreme oversight in the standardization of HDR ratings. Basically, in order to earn an HDR rating, you just need to demonstrate that the TV can hold a certain light differential between ANY two points on the screen for only 6 seconds.

TV manufacturers are taking full advantage of this oversight and selling HDR TVs with way to few lighting zones. HDR needs at least 100 lighting zones to be effective in its implementation, but many manufacturers are selling TVs with as few as 16 zones (4x4 grid), all while earning the highest rating an HDR tv can earn.

It's possible it's the Show itself that is the issue, the devs do have to input all the new numbers to enable HDR and that can be fudged up, but it's far more likely it's your TV. HDR has been completely ruined thanks to that standardization oversight.

The biggest problem with HDR is the utter lack of consumer education about what it is. It does not add more “pop” or make the image brighter. It allows devs to get more precise definition and accuracy in darker images.

But consumer misunderstanding encourages devs to do the opposite. HZD looks amazing, but HDR is kind of a joke. It’s not it more realistic looking, instead making the image pop more.

The lack of consumer understanding, which also affects most game journalists, allows TV manufacturers to get away with shipping crappy HDR modes, because consumers can’t even agree on what it should look like.

One reason to ship a crappy HDR mode is to achieve better input lag ratings. Rtings.com rates TVs for HDR gaming primarily based on input lag. To find out if it is actually good, you need to look at color gamut and dimming zones. I don’t think 100 is required, but the more the better.

I think most gamers would be better off shutting HDR off. That’s what they actually want their games to look like.

HDR for movies and TV is designed primarily for dark rooms. Again, it allows them to keep the brightness down, which is blistering in a dark room, while still being able to show more detailed images.

At this point, HDR is still too complicated for mass appeal, but TV manufacturers, and the like, know that it’s a great bullet point to help sell products.

[britttastic]

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what are the settings you currently recommend?

[britttastic]

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Dynamic Contrast does terrible things to SDR content but some TVs have seemingly been designed to need it to process HDR (some Samsungs and LGs for example). I notice very little crushing or blown out whites when it’s set to low but they can rear their head when it’s set to high (plus a tendency for colors to become over saturated). Adjustments can be made to other settings to reduce the processing problems introduced by high Dynamic Contrast and I’ve been fiddling with them since installing The Show 19 since it’s pretty much the only game I use my Game Mode HDR settings on.

What are the settings you recommend or are currently using?

[dubplate]

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I set Dynamic Contrast to low and it does make HD content look better. You could see blacks being crushed with it on high but it looks just right on low.

Thanks for the tip!

[Twinkie12]

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HDR on for me.

I'm on a TCL 55" 4K. It's the best purchase I have ever made. Almost zero input lag and The Show running 4K and HDR looks beautiful and plays silky smooth.

When I got it last year, I thought it looked dull when I turned HDR on, but after a while I got used to it. It looks much more realistic and less "gamey." And the lighting is noticeably better. Not sure how it looks on other TV's but I recommend giving it a few games and then going back and comparing.